Homebrew Discussion Confirmed: Mario All Stars 3D Collection have 3 emulators

[GatoFiestero]

These images show configuration files and even the same roms inside the game, running on PC:

Source:

Mario All Stars para Switch NO es un PORT. Son las ROMS originales, emuladas. Hemos corrido las roms en los emuladores de PC. Cambia el modo panorámico para ajustarse a switch. Así que hay emulador de N64, GameCube y Wii. Vamos a probar cambiando roms pic.twitter.com/3NXkDjlChh

— Retro Gamer (@RetroGamer_74) September 15, 2020

Galaxy in particular is really interesting. It appears they recompiled the original code to run natively on the Switch CPU, but everything else (GPU/Audio) is running in the emulator.

Interesting trick!

— OatmealDome (@OatmealDome) September 15, 2020

Edit: More info:
https://gbatemp.net/threads/super-mario-3d-all-stars-rom-leaked-4-days-ahead-of-release.573679/

 

[a7mag3ddon]

Must be highly optimised, been playing a while on Galaxy and its flawless.

 

[ragestaker21]

If we can swap roms oh my god

 

[PeterGemp]

replied to the wrong thread before, but the message is the same:

What's there to figure out though? Couldn't we just exchange "rom:/MarioSunshine/Super_Mario_Sunshine_Stardust-trimmed.gcm" with any other gamecube-.gcm rom?
Maybe prototype through LayeredFS and all that jazz.
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I am very excited for the performance of other roms on this proprietary emulator.

I guess the only things that need to be considered are:
- Gamecube: Analog-triggers, maybe it's fixed like in Sunshine, "R" for half-pressed and "RZ" for full-press
- Wii: Check whether a non-port rom works out, also pay attention to how wiimote-nunchuck/classic controller is supported by certain games

 

[spotanjo3]

What a shame, Nintendo. They are actually roms/isos then I am not buying it at all!!!! I will be fine with those on my emulators instead. Shame on you, Nintendo. What a cheat!!!

 

[tfocosta]

These images show configuration files and even the same roms inside the game, running on PC:

Source: https://twitter.com/RetroGamer_74/status/1305795758097137666

Woow! This makes sense, considering that graphic-wise the games didn't seem to change when compared to the original releases. Except for the optimisation of the screen resolution to make it look better in the Switch.

So, in the end, we are really buying emulated games from Nintendo.

Isn't Super Mario All-Stars (25th Anniversary Edition) for the Wii an emulated rom too?

 

[bonoboy]

OMG, surely Nintendo created his own-optimized emulators for this compilation. Been expecting to see what sceners are up to

 

[Bladexdsl]

nintendo are almost as bad as apple now. they are almost there!

 

[spotanjo3]

I wonder about Super Mario 3D World in Feb 2021. It might be emulated for the Wii U Emulator as well. I would bet you on 2 cents!

 

[Reecey]

We are all blessed! they are emulated this now opens the gates for emulation on GameCube & Wii titles just the same as the DS titles did on the WiiU

Edit: you should be thanking Nintendo not slating them!!

 

[stefko13]

If you guys are smarter.. JUST DONT BUY IT FROM NINTENDO. They are cheating on you since those are actually roms/isos on Emulators! Don't buy it!

Wait, what exactly is your issue with these games being emulated?

 

[darkangel84]

Can we also use original save from PC emulators?

 

[saulopp]

I don´t think them using emulators is such a bad thing in the big picture. It is probably the first stage to bring a lot of older games to a "virtual console" like service now they got the emulators in place.

 

[Deleted User]

Has anyone tried to swap out the roms yet, or is that coming up next?

Just seeing the simple fact that the roms are hardcorded should mean we SHOULD be able to change out the roms.
Though strange how they're checking the hash aswell. Perhaps anti-modification, but that should (if it exists) be fairly simple to cut out.

Edit: I'm more glad that they're using an emulator, because it means that hacker/homebrew scene gets ahold of it too. No need to wait for someone to make one

 

[Nerdtendo]

Has anyone tried to swap out the roms yet, or is that coming up next?

Just seeing the simple fact that the roms are hardcorded should mean we SHOULD be able to change out the roms.
Though strange how they're checking the hash aswell. Perhaps anti-modification, but that should (if it exists) be fairly simple to cut out.

Edit: I'm more glad that they're using an emulator, because it means that hacker/homebrew scene gets ahold of it too. No need to wait for someone to make one

That's what I'm waiting for. I'm having trouble unpacking my NCAs so I can't try myself

 

[gnze796]

Has anyone tried to swap out the roms yet, or is that coming up next?

Just seeing the simple fact that the roms are hardcorded should mean we SHOULD be able to change out the roms.
Though strange how they're checking the hash aswell. Perhaps anti-modification, but that should (if it exists) be fairly simple to cut out.

Edit: I'm more glad that they're using an emulator, because it means that hacker/homebrew scene gets ahold of it too. No need to wait for someone to make one

Give it time. If it works, or if it can be figured out, it won't take much time.

 

[Axido]

What a shame, Nintendo. They are actually roms/isos then I am not buying it at all!!!! I will be fine with those on my emulators instead. Shame on you, Nintendo. What a cheat!!!

Yeah, refuse to buy it and miss out on an item with a pretty much guaranteed increase in value for collectors. If this game stays limited , then a sealed copy might sell for over a hundred bucks or more in a few years.

I'm not gonna let that chance slip just because it's basically just a package of roms and emulators.

If those emulators turn out to be injectable, Nintendo would have given the scene a nice present, actually. And even if not: The games do work as advertised. If people already decided to get the collection despite the lack of extra content, the games being run on emulators won't have much of an impact on that decision.

 

[Deleted User]

That's what I'm waiting for. I'm having trouble unpacking my NCAs so I can't try myself

Give it time. If it works, or if it can be figured out, it won't take much time.

Edit: I was had. False information.

 

[Deleted member 323844]

So it is a port of Shield TV's GC/Wii emulation?

*Pretends to be surprised*

 

[Deleted User]

So it is a port of Shield TV's GC/Wii emulation?

*Pretends to be surprised*

Nobody has said anything about it being like the Shield TV ports yet. So as of now, up in the air.