Game Freak claims it is not reusing Pokemon models in Sword/Shield

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In recent days, Game Freak has come under fire for various grievances fans have with the upcoming Pokemon titles, Sword and Shield. Following the controversy of only a select amount of Pokemon being in the game at all, Game Freak was then criticized for reusing animations and character models from previous Pokemon games. However, these claims appear to be untrue, as a previous interview with Junichi Masuda and Shigeru Ohmori confirms that Game Freak has had to create every Pokemon model in Sword and Shield "from scratch". The June 2019 interview, which went largely unnoticed due to its lack of English translation, was also not referenced in the "official response" from Game Freak two weeks ago, regarding the Pokedex issue.

Due to the nature of the Nintendo Switch's better hardware and smoother framerates, the 3DS-era Pokemon models and animations were unable to be directly transferred over to engine that Sword and Shield are running on, so the team over at Game Freak had to remake every Pokemon model. This was apparently especially difficult for the team, who has had their normal amount of developers split between two major projects: Sword/Shield and Town. During the development of Sun and Moon, Game Freak was "barely able to" import all 809 Pokemon into that game with a full dedicated team as it was. This, coupled with the daunting task of balancing each and every Pokemon was what led to Junichi Masuda deciding to "choose quality over quantity", when it came to choosing which Pokemon would make it into the Galar Dex. In the interview he says, "The decision is sad. Of course I wanted to bring all the Pokemon in if I could do it, but this was a decision I had to make eventually".

Masuda even joked about the matter responding that the Pokemon that won't show up in the game are thinking, "This region is too cold. I think I'll stay at home this time."

When it comes to the matter of adding subsequent Pokemon in post-launch updates, Game Freak says that they are considering the idea, but are undecided at the moment. He also further explained that the Dynamaxing and Gigantamaxing features require additional 3D models from each Pokemon, and are not simply resized versions of their existing assets.

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i am not going to buy this game bacuse of this

but ik they are going to make a shitload of money anyway..
 

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I mean, what kind of reaction did you really expect over the whole situation? At least some subset of fans took things too far by starting flamewars, spamming hastags in all the related and unrelated places, and in couple cases actual death threats were thrown. Whether national dex removal was a good decision or not is still up to debate (maybe it's laziness, maybe it's a genuine rebalancing attempt - we'll see when the game is done), but Pokemon fandom put itself in a very moronic position with the whole thing, so naturally people are going to criticize their opinions .з.
I love the way that you eased the reader into your viewpoint, too, classic trick. First you started by assuming that- as a given- some people caused a big problem. Sure, the reader can allow that. Then you made a light concession about how the subject is still up for debate, ah, you're appearing to agree on some things~! but then you hit us with the whammy of "the Pokemon fandom" without qualifiers. Now the whole fandom is bad! And because the well was poisoned earlier, the opponent can't argue, because they already accepted that there was a problem! Ben Shapiro debates like this all the time.

Anyway, I agree.
Whether national dex removal was a good decision or not is still up to debate
Well said, I'll keep debating it.
 

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Balancing? Balancing only relies on data, in other words: A few integers and scripts.
Since Su/Mo had all (to that date) existent Pokémon in it, they only had to add the new Pokémon data according to the old one.

That is fine all the time you just make the same pokemon game over and over. Their new models (I don't just mean 3d models) might require all new data. That is how I am reading what they are saying.

Then why did they start with this Dynamaxing nonsense to begin with?

Because they want to bring something new?
 

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That is fine all the time you just make the same pokemon game over and over. Their new models (I don't just mean 3d models) might require all new data. That is how I am reading what they are saying.
No, it's still round based and not real time. A thunder attack still deals the same amount of damage according to sending and receiving Pokémon stats no matter how their models look like. ;)
Because they want to bring something new?
Valid point but if that leads to a national dex only I guess most people would have passed.
The first ever real HD Pokémon RPG with a new map and new Pokémon is enough new stuff. :P
 

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During lets go:
me: oh c mon why game freak ¿kanto again what about all mons you pretend in future use the same graphics from sun and moon and cut all playable pokémon?
During Sword shield trailers before E3 and three houses
me: OH YES finally a new game from core series
During E3 Afterwards
me:oh god its happening i hate myself and i hate the idea i said this thing as a joke

i dont want tell anything from future but all i can say is diamond pearl remakes after this backlash its more posible its only playable the pokemon from first generation until the fourth no unova kalos alola or galar
 

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And here it is, the bottom of the barrel take, ladies and gentlemen. "I don't care, so you shouldn't either."
Cue the response of "oh, i didn't mean it like that"
Bullshit. If that's the case, then your argument isn't even an argument.
Nice, Trying to push me into a corner like that.
I was just stating my opinion, It's cool that you care, but, I don't think it's worth crying over, yes it is MEDIA. That's why you shouldn't get your Panties in a bunch.
Don't like it? Don't play it, Simple as that.

I love the way that you eased the reader into your viewpoint, too, classic trick. First you started by assuming that- as a given- some people caused a big problem. Sure, the reader can allow that. Then you made a light concession about how the subject is still up for debate, ah, you're appearing to agree on some things~! but then you hit us with the whammy of "the Pokemon fandom" without qualifiers. Now the whole fandom is bad! And because the well was poisoned earlier, the opponent can't argue, because they already accepted that there was a problem! Ben Shapiro debates like this all the time.
I don't think that's even what he was saying, he was saying that there are some morons in the fan base, who are giving it a bad name, for example; You.

No, it's still round based and not real time. A thunder attack still deals the same amount of damage according to sending and receiving Pokémon stats no matter how their models look like. ;)
true, but as I've said before, you still need new descriptions, Dynamax models, Where to put those pokemon. Places to put pokemon is slightly one of my concerns, because if you have too many then it's going to go get crowded.
 

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Nice, Trying to push me into a corner like that.
I was just stating my opinion, It's cool that you care, but, I don't think it's worth crying over, yes it is MEDIA. That's why you shouldn't get your Panties in a bunch.
Don't like it? Don't play it, Simple as that.
Are there bigger problems in the world? Of course. However, people have every right to be upset. They were looking forward to a good Pokemon game on the Switch. People have a right to their emotions.

Also, saying "I was just stating my opinion" before saying that other people "stating their opinion" are "getting their panties in a bunch" is hypocrisy.
 

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Can you stop already? , the game looks decent and fun , maybe it's not the best maybe it doesnt have the DeX and reuse all blablabla, but at the end is only a game , it's not the end of the world of something we are in the homebrew side we are not even to buy it maybe a few will ,so what's the point , When it comes out we will see if the game is really that bad or it only was the people crying like always when obviously they are going to buy it sooner or later.

First of all i dont want stop it i dont have low standard and i want a decent product now this fangame created this fan from pokémon using sun and moon engine and graphics

second ¿you have more rights than others making opinions than other because you buy the game and others dont? so logical apologist detected ¿how many pokemon games you played? ¿are you from 2016 then?

third people doesnt crying even in japan are pissed for this backlash EVEN in japan its the first time in story in pokémon watch how in overseas EVEN are annoyed but no crying maybe the only person are crying are you trying justify and make valuable game when its product of lazyness and pile of lyes dig his grave more deeper
 
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First of all i dont want stop it i dont have low standard and i want a decent product now this fangame created this fan from pokémon using sun and moon engine and graphics

second ¿you have more rights than others making opinions than other because you buy the game and others dont? so logical apologist detected ¿how many pokemon games you played? ¿are you from 2016 then?

third people doesnt crying even in japan are pissed for this backlash EVEN in japan its the first time in story in pokémon watch how in overseas EVEN are annoyed but no crying maybe the only person are crying are you trying justify and make valuable game when its product of lazyness and pile of lyes dig his grave more deeper
I played all the pokemon games you dumb ass, if you dont know me stop saying invented things , dont say meaningless stuff please and my point here is that , "the game is decent it's no low standard by any means it's just normal you all people complaining here are so toxic and sad you cant really accept that you beloved pokemon game is not perfect " , too bad for you haha , I know perfectly that the game will sell a lot , so I really dont have to say so much...its juat obvious and it doeant matter how much you cry the game is going to be like it is.
 
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Few content creator / influencers of the mass who don't actually have the game nor have played it are calling out something
The devs say no, backed up by different translations.

The followers: "No this must be bullshit"

Because of course, it comes from a company, so it is obviously lies and evil doing.

Seriously. Some people give way too much credit to some influencers to even realize they are ALSO full of shit sometimes and are just surfing on the next general outrage. Hive-minded fanbase 101.
lets be honest people have been liead alote by most companys, and if their models are new they they did a very poor job where they look very very similar lol, why remake anything if in the end the client looks and sees no diference?
 
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No, it's still round based and not real time. A thunder attack still deals the same amount of damage according to sending and receiving Pokémon stats no matter how their models look like. ;)

Valid point but if that leads to a national dex only I guess most people would have passed.
The first ever real HD Pokémon RPG with a new map and new Pokémon is enough new stuff. :P
One teeny tiny problem. Think everyone is forgetting this
https://nintendoeverything.com/full...sident-on-the-lets-go-games-and-2019-entries/
letmme just post this here
– “The release in the second half of 2019 is a completely different game. This will not be an entry point into the series, but rather something that we want people who have been enjoying Pokemon games for a long time to look forward to.”
– “The game will be released for the Switch, but we have kept in mind the ‘hands on’ approach that we’ve had so far. We have also polished the graphics.”


If it's not a entry point. Why remove the pokemon? Oh wait. Because it's a entry point and gamefreak went back on their word hard. Also "POLISHED GRAPHICS"
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:
 

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Are there bigger problems in the world? Of course. However, people have every right to be upset. They were looking forward to a good Pokemon game on the Switch. People have a right to their emotions.

I have a right to my emotions too, but emotions are silent.

One teeny tiny problem. Think everyone is forgetting this
https://nintendoeverything.com/full...sident-on-the-lets-go-games-and-2019-entries/
letmme just post this here
– “The release in the second half of 2019 is a completely different game. This will not be an entry point into the series, but rather something that we want people who have been enjoying Pokemon games for a long time to look forward to.”
– “The game will be released for the Switch, but we have kept in mind the ‘hands on’ approach that we’ve had so far. We have also polished the graphics.”


If it's not a entry point. Why remove the pokemon? Oh wait. Because it's a entry point and gamefreak went back on their word hard. Also "POLISHED GRAPHICS"
:rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2::rofl2:

Can you explain your argument and how you came to it?
 

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There's also nothing wrong with communicating one's feelings.

Sure, but people aren't talking about how they feel. They are talking about how their emotions are telling them Game Freak are evil and must be stopped at all costs.
 

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My God all of you complaining can just shut the fuck up! It's a game, it has no effect on your life! Are you all really that uptight and entitled? First you bitch that pokemon games are all the same, now you all bitch when given something new and different.
 
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My God all of you complaining can just shut the fuck up! It's a game, it has no effect on your life! Are you all really that uptight and entitled? First you bitch that pokemon games are all the same, now you all bitch when given something new and different.
It's perfectly fine to complain about a game people were originally very excited about. It's disappointing.

You're the only one who is complaining about something that has no effect on your life. That's called hypocrisy.
 
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Can you explain your argument and how you came to it?
Did you even read the article?

My God all of you complaining can just shut the fuck up! It's a game, it has no effect on your life! Are you all really that uptight and entitled? First you bitch that pokemon games are all the same, now you all bitch when given something new and different.
You know... You would be right. If the company didn't lie. Masuda stated better animation, better models. That was his reason for removing pokemon. SO HE GAVE us that feeling of needing to expect more. And what happened? He didn't follow through. We aren't being entitled, we are calling out bullshit.
 

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My God all of you complaining can just shut the fuck up! It's a game, it has no effect on your life! Are you all really that uptight and entitled? First you bitch that pokemon games are all the same, now you all bitch when given something new and different.
Says the person who is literally, at this moment, complaining about something with no effect on their life. Its so interesting how people complain about other people complaining, and they themselves become the thing they're complaining about.
 

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