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Hello, I want to build a gaming PC with a Ryzen 3 2200g, 8gb ram ,case,psu,etc, everything...but a friend sells me his AMD FX 9590 with 32gb ram , ATX Mobo from MSI and a nvidia 960 4gb for a $100, should I buy his or go everything new? Have the budget for the Ryzen but I can save more than $250.
 

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Hello, I want to build a gaming PC with a Ryzen 3 2200g, 8gb ram ,case,psu,etc, everything...but a friend sells me his AMD FX 9590 with 32gb ram , ATX Mobo from MSI and a nvidia 960 4gb for a $100, should I buy his or go everything new? Have the budget for the Ryzen but I can save more than $250.
Don't buy the 9590. I've owned one and it's one of the worst CPUs I've ever had. Its performance is lower than even some very old third gen Intel CPUs due to Piledriver/Bulldozer being awful, it's terribly inefficient and heats up like crazy - you're going to need some extremely beefy cooling due to its 220W TDP. Plus, if you're going with AM3+ you'll be locked out of any future upgrades while AMD has already announced it'll support AM4 for at least two other CPU generations.

On the other hand, Ryzen are incredibly good when it comes to performance per dollar. You might pay a bit more for DDR4 RAM but they're great for gaming and awesome for literally everything else. Plus, if you're going down the overclocking route you're assured to squeeze a bit more performance out of 'em even on the stock cooler (while you can forget about that with the 9590 due to its already sky high TDP, unless you want your CPU to meltdown and VRMs to explode in an atomic fireball which will cause you to play Fallout IRL).

TL;DR - Go with Ryzen, you won't regret it
 

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Thanks guys, I can build a Ryzen 3 2200G, stock cooler, B350 asrock mobo, 8gb DDR4 Gskill 3ghz, Case, 550 EVGA modular 80 plus gold, 240gb SSD with $395, no GPU, $400 is my budget (USA) or go with the FX, buy case, Corsair 240mm AIO and PSU for $290 including an Nvidia 960 4gb (not much but beats none dedicated GPU). As you, I'm leaning towards ryzen but it's tempting having everything ready to go for $290
 

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Thanks guys, I can build a Ryzen 3 2200G, stock cooler, B350 asrock mobo, 8gb DDR4 Gskill 3ghz, Case, 550 EVGA modular 80 plus gold, 240gb SSD with $395, no GPU, $400 is my budget (USA) or go with the FX, buy case, Corsair 240mm AIO and PSU for $290 including an Nvidia 960 4gb (not much but beats none dedicated GPU). As you, I'm leaning towards ryzen but it's tempting having everything ready to go for $290

Ryzen is a much better platform.
1. It's modern, with the FX series you have no upgrade path, you have to buy a new CPU, MoBo, and RAM if you want better performance with the Ryzen it'd just be the CPU.
2. When it comes to CPU performance (not counting the APU), the Ryzen is the better deal. The Ryzen performs better in CPU focused titles like GTA V.

This is what I recommend.
Spend the rest of the money buying a second hand graphics card like a GTX 960


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($95.00 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Inland - 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($31.74 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $321.70
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-22 22:49 EST-0500
 
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Ryzen is a much better platform.
1. It's modern, with the FX series you have no upgrade path, you have to buy a new CPU, MoBo, and RAM if you want better performance with the Ryzen it'd just be the CPU.
2. When it comes to CPU performance (not counting the APU), the Ryzen is the better deal. The Ryzen performs better in CPU focused titles like GTA V.

This is what I recommend.
Spend the rest of the money buying a second hand graphics card like a GTX 960
Thanks all, did the Ryzen build, got the 960 4gb alone for $20, that'll suffice till I can buy a better one. He still wants to sell me the FX, 32gb DDR3, AIO cooler and mobo for $40.
 

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Thanks all, did the Ryzen build, got the 960 4gb alone for $20, that'll suffice till I can buy a better one. He still wants to sell me the FX, 32gb DDR3, AIO cooler and mobo for $40.
A 960 for $20 seems a bit too good to be true, I don't mean to be a scaremonger but are you sure it's a genuine card and not one of those fake unbranded chinese ones? If it's an obvious one then you can check with GPU-Z but it's not a definitive test as some can trick it by modding their BIOS. The only way to know for sure is either performing benchmarks or opening the GPU and looking at the die.

On the other hand the only thing he's selling that you might find useful is the AIO cooler if you can get an AM4 mounting kit for it (kinda like Noctua does for their heatsinks). A system with an FX 9590 won't even be good as a HTPC/home server due to the sheer amount of power it needs.
 
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A 960 for $20 seems a bit too good to be true, I don't mean to be a scaremonger but are you sure it's a genuine card and not one of those fake unbranded chinese ones? If it's an obvious one then you can check with GPU-Z but it's not a definitive test as some can trick it by modding their BIOS. The only way to know for sure is either performing benchmarks or opening the GPU and looking at the die.

On the other hand the only thing he's selling that you might find useful is the AIO cooler if you can get an AM4 mounting kit for it (kinda like Noctua does for their heatsinks). A system with an FX 9590 won't even be good as a HTPC/home server due to the sheer amount of power it needs.

Yes, It's a friend, I know it works (well I was playing Soul Calibur 6 all day yesterday), he doesn't like to sell on Craiglist or online so he just accumulate stuff.
 

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