Please help me build a new PC

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  1. ThoD

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    You only need the card's serial number.

    If you are that stingy for 20$, perhaps you should skimp on some stuff:P But honestly, if you want to sell the codes and all, go ahead if you think it will be worth it, but heads up that because of keys online being sold dirt cheap you won't profit much if any and you might not be able to give all codes away so check their details first. Also, if you can give them away, might as well directly trade them for a key for World, just saying...
     
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    @Duo8 thanks for the offer. If by any chance Capcom decides on releasing a beta for PC like they did for XBOX and PS4, then could you try that?

    @ThoD Good point on just trading the codes for MHW haha. The XBOX Game Pass for PC says it has a $29.99 value and it says that the Devil May Cry 5 game has a $39.99 value. Together that's $69.98! Considering MHW is routinely on sale for like 50% off (around $25ish), I think I should be able to find a person to trade with. Unless you think I can get greedy and ask for the entire Iceborne bundle together. Heck even standalone Iceborne would also be fine, as I can just get World myself.

    Now I just have to hope that they have a similar promotion 3-4 months from now when I actually plan on buying these parts. Imagine the savings!
     
  3. Duo8

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    I'll only have it for a few days
     
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    It's okay then. Unless you already happen to have MH World, I don't see anything having a good 1:1 comparison, and even then, The expansion is even more taxing than the base game.
     
  5. Duo8

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    I'm trying MH World right now. Already frame drops in the intro section.
     
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    Keep in mind though I'm using very old drivers. Running at 1080p Highest
    You can just get a SATA drive, they're much cheaper.
    EDIT: I may be CPU bottlenecked, I have an old haswell CPU.
     
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    @Duo8 the reddit page is showing the Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4 3200 Memory $69.99. Is this better than the other one because of the 3200 vs the 3000, or does the CAS latency make it worse? The 3200 is 16 and the 3000 is 15. Which one would be better?

    EDIT: Apparently Ryzen only supports even CAS latencies (14, 16, 18), and only "supports" up to 2666/2993 MHz, but they say higher than 3000 MHz is still okay because of the way they are made or something. I guess I'm switching out the RAM.
     
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  9. Duo8

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    Should be about the same, 3200C16 is slightly better binned I believe.
    RAM OC is a thing and "sweet spot" for ryzen is 3733MHz.
     
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    I've been doing some reading, and they say that since DDR5 is coming out in early 2020, they will stop making DDR4, the overstock supply of DDR4 will end, and as a result it will become more expensive. I just checked amazon/newegg for DDR3 and they basically go for the same price as DDR4 at the same frequencies.

    My question is that if I buy the RAM right this second out of fear of potential rising prices, how will I be able to tell if they are dead on arrival? Does the return policy work if I don't let them know for like 3 months because I don't have a computer to test them with?
     
  11. Duo8

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    There's no way unless there's an obvious physical defect.
     
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    I guess I'll just hope for the best that prices don't increase and wait until Novemberish before I buy. I looked up their website and it said they have a 45 day RMA policy.
     
  13. ThoD

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    Considering they STILL make DDR3 memories even, why TF would they stop DDR4 just because DDR5 comes out? It's not even coming out properly, it's "coming out" the same way DDR4 did back in the day where it was released at the very start of a year on a really specific small part of the market, then a good 8-9 months later was actually released in quantities that were meant to sell worldwide, they always do it so that people who can promote and test that stuff are able to get the hardware first, then do all the post-launch testing for the manufacturer and give feedback and it's only then after they are certain no more revisions are needed that they actually launch. That's been going on since DDR2 first came out, doubt they'd change it... Don't expect DDR5 to be the norm until mid-2021 and at a really high price to boot, while DDR4 will stay around as a budget option instead until whatever comes after DDR5 is bit over a year away. Also, DDR, DDR2, DDR3, DDR4 and DDR5 all use literally the same materials in their chips, only things that change are production methods, design efficiency and some other things, so they have absolutely no reason to stop producing DDR4 just because DDR5 is out, especially if DDR5 is a big spike in price over DDR4.

    As for your question, as long as you don't buy some random shitty brand of RAM, ALL RAM sticks actually come with lifetime warranty as it's one of the few components that don't really deteriorate over years, so even if you buy it now and you find out it's not working two years later, you should still be able to get a refund/replacement. Anyways, my advice is to just get it when you get the system, don't worry about price spikes, with the bitcoin bullshit having blown up and being a thing of the past, the market FINALLY after almost a decade is getting more freedom with the materials to make memory chips, so prices won't go up anymore for GPUs/RAMs, at least for the time being, if anything, things might go back to being the normal price instead of literally double/triple what they are actually worth.
     
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    Pretty solid build just two things imo.
    >paying more than 100 dollars for a CPU
    >falling for the SSD meme

    that is all.
     
  15. Duo8

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    And this is how you go into people's ignore list.
     
  16. ThoD

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    OP, this guy is a complete idiot seeing how he doesn't know what he's talking about, just ignore him, no new unused CPU under 100$ is even able to run World without tweaking things to a crazy degree since World is by far one of the most CPU-heavy games out there! As for SSD, while normally it doesn't matter and a regular 7200RPM SATA 6GB HDD will do for most stuff and even World, an SSD specifically for this game makes the loading times go from ~30 seconds to literally ~2 seconds... If it was any other game SSDs would be obsolete, this is probably the only game out there that has such an enormous difference between normal fast drives and SSDs!
     
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  17. MrCokeacola

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    Very true.
    Not 100% true a sub 100 dollar AMD FX chip I'm sure could run MH World with no problem.
    Also very true, I use a SSD to play Destiny 2 on PC and loading into the Hub area is cut by almost half over a mechanical drive. Is that worth paying almost double the price as traditional storage? I don't have the answer to that. But that's half the fun of PC building is all the different philosophies and needs/wants for a build.
     
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  18. GameSystem
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    I'll be switching out the SSD to avoid the "Samsung" tax, so I'll be saving money there. Sadly, I'll also be upgrading the CPU to an even higher price point because everywhere I look people are saying that the 3600 is the best price to performance ratio and there is no reason not to spend the extra $50 to get that instead. I may or may not need a new mobo. Mine is compatible, but I'll still look around.
     
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    I would also suggest showing this to the guys over at https://www.reddit.com/r/buildmeapc/ they helped me make sure everything was in working order
     
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  20. GameSystem
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    I would, but I'm afraid of becoming a member of that site. I still routinely go there for information though.
     
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