Hacking R.I.P. Public CDNSP Cert. as Nintendo Getting Better

[deinonychus71]

The CDN doesn't check that, dauth does all the checks and auto-revokes. This doesn't pass dauth because atum isn't behind dauth.

Atum doesn't check anything other than that you have the tls-certificate. It handles updates and other common use things that don't make sense to put behind a ton of checks.

Ok but... I don't see how hard it would be to just put that behind a proxy/middleware that checks activity on a specific cert. If there's a sudden peak coming from different IPs it wouldn't be hard to flag...
I don't know, I can't believe this isn't monitorable xD

 

[V-Temp]

Ok but... I don't see how hard it would be to just put that behind a proxy/middleware that checks activity on a specific cert. If there's a sudden peak coming from different IPs it wouldn't be hard to flag...
I don't know, I can't believe this isn't monitorable xD

Monitoring millions of certificates in real time on intercept would consume more bandwidth than CDNSP does, probably. They clearly do log it but it doesn't seem to be monitored in real time. They likely have a log of access per cert, and just do simple checks every so often then purge bad certs.

 

[Ericthegreat]

Monitoring millions of certificates in real time on intercept would consume more bandwidth than CDNSP does, probably. They clearly do log it but it doesn't seem to be monitored in real time. They likely have a log of access per cert, and just do simple checks every so often then purge bad certs.

I dunno about consume more bandwidth, but they would have to give people specifically that job, in the end nintendo doesnt care, they probably only ban so they can talk about how they ban people when someone at a stockholder meeting says "what are you doing about piracy".

 

[Mr. Wizard]

Monitoring millions of certificates in real time on intercept would consume more bandwidth than CDNSP does, probably. They clearly do log it but it doesn't seem to be monitored in real time. They likely have a log of access per cert, and just do simple checks every so often then purge bad certs.

I dunno about consume more bandwidth, but they would have to give people specifically that job, in the end nintendo doesnt care, they probably only ban so they can talk about how they ban people when someone at a stockholder meeting says "what are you doing about piracy".

Their infrastructure can no doubt handle logging every connection they get, it's an emergent property. What they aren't doing is running any auto ban algorithm since if something goes wrong, it would be catastrophic. Imagine millions of people mistakenly getting banned. So what they do is consolidate all the information using some kind of parsing algorithm and then batch issue bans accordingly, at their leisure/discretion.

 

[MarzDaindigo]

I play it every day on as hard as it goes and have fun, yea it could have more but I'm enjoying it and I'll def enjoy it more on switch

 

[FAST6191]

Problem is, how do you confirm it? How do you even *find* such an auto-banned tls-cert before someone raises a stink (and associated bad PR) because their kid got a false-positive?

In the case of the current bans, since they appear manual or at least based on some degree of logs+threshold of badness, there's no argument or remote possibility of a false-positive.

In reality their best option, which they'll probably eventually bake into it, is to just fix the way atum handles authentication as they've updated shogun. But that would take a major migration or restructuring of their CDN. Or they can just bake in some cross-check with buygo if they find the bandwidth lost to that is less than the bandwidth lost to the people fucking around with a cert.

Wouldn't be that bad PR* and said in house credit stuff would probably do even then. Spin it along the lines of "in our efforts to combat piracy and online cheating and misuse of our services we accidentally excluded someone we later found to be using the services acceptably, by way of apology for the inconvenience we have offered the person affected free online and some credit for the shop and have taken measures to make sure this false detection does not happen again". Maybe throw in there a nice custom theme/skin/badge just for them.

In private respond to them with our services say this is the data, if you wish to allow us to do a forensic analysis on the device then we will send a courier.

*MS banned plenty of people under dubious circumstances. Never got any traction in the gaming press.

 

[Bellebite2000]

Never got any traction in the gaming press.

Well, I used to be a journalist, and all the manufacturers are providing tons of free, trips all around the world, games and stuff all the time. Why would you eat the hand feeding you? When you are a journalist, you are either a prostitute, or you don't have a job.

What is easier? Get a free flight, hotel, free food and shit, the latest GeForce for free and say this is the best thing ever invented OR try to get one on your own (with your own money and network), not having to sign any NDA and say what you want about it? Look at any popular website, and you will see the answer. People should only review games / hardware they purchased with their OWN money, and not owing anything anyone. Any other "reviewer" is just a prostitute, whether they admit it or not.

 

[smf]

They can probably add redundancy checks or make it more pro-active like dauth which automates a lot of checks and revocations of access but they may not want to let it get too draconian/fast acting with the tls-cert.

It will come down to how much money they want to invest as they have to pay salaries to people rubber stamping the bans.

The amount of potential bans being thrown up by their system will also play a part.

 

[YodaXY]

sorry guys but i'm a bit confused is the cert offline now? If not where can I find a new one?

 

[Ashura66]

sorry guys but i'm a bit confused is the cert offline now? If not where can I find a new one?

There's a new cert already

 

[Ashura66]

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[guily6669]

If I try Freeshop on the 3DS will I get instantly banned and not even work?

 

[Ashura66]

If I try Freeshop on the 3DS will I get instantly banned and not even work?

Probably wont even work

 

[CallmeBerto]

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[linuxares]

Stop asking for a new Cert. It's not something you are allowed to share here.

 

[andyhappypants]

NVM...

 

[KsAmJ]

CDNSP Public Cert Status: DEAD

GAME OVER

 

[Switchup]

Fun while it lasted. Fingers crossed for not dauth.

F

 

[Darth Meteos]

Rest in peace, CDNSP.

 

[aos10]

CDNSP Public Cert Status: DEAD

GAME OVER

and this time for good
"RIP all certs. Nintendo has finally implemented Dauth when downloading games, thus banning your cert the moment it detects your trying to get one you don't own. If you want games from this point on, you will have to use torrents made from CDNSP or that dark site. DO NOT test any certs from this point on, you'll have them insta-banned."