Hacking Atmosphére Release Date, Release Features And Planned Features Announced

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No, the jig is not a mod at all. Neither softmod nor hardmod. This is because nothing is modified bythe jig

It is a mod. It modifies default hardware behavior by including a button that is not present in the system. It's only not a full on hardmod because it's not permanent, just like flashing the xbox360 dvd drives in the old days - no permanent changes to hardware, only a software update to the drive Firmware. But you DID tamper with the hardware, opening the xbox and connecting it to a PC. By doing so, even in the smallest way, you are already out of the realm of pure softmodding.

In summary, it's not a pure softmod, as it relies on hardware tampering. It's not a hardmod, since said tampering isn't permanent. It's something in between.
 

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Does this boot straight from your sd card or do you still have to use the old cable to pc method? because if it doesn't then I don't see the benefits over using Reinx cfw or not even close to TX's Pro cfw for users! I do think personally TX's pro setup is the way forward at this time and paying a mere £40.00 for the dongle and its full features is well worth the investment and it works really well specially in autorcm ;)
 
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Dang all this work is impressive ! I think many people don't realize the work involved in rewriting all these parts from scratch, and the benefits it will provide on the long run.

Does this boot straight from your sd card or do you still have to use the old cable to pc method?

If you have a switch on a FW <= 3.0 there will be ways to launch this without being connected to another device in a near future (possibly on release ?).
If you have a switch on a 3.0 < FW <= 4.1 there will be ways to do it in a foreseeable but more distant future.
If you have a FW>4.1 there is no guarantee for now, new coldboot exploits would need to be discovered.

That's why many of us updated our switches without burning eFuses through rajkosto's tools, this way we will be able to downgrade when the time comes.
 
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It is a mod. It modifies default hardware behavior by including a button that is not present in the system
The Tegra has this inputs and is programmed to enter RCM if these inputs are set. This is not a modification. It is designed to work this way.

In summary, it's not a pure softmod, as it relies on hardware tampering. It's not a hardmod, since said tampering isn't permanent. It's something in between.
No, if you use a jig or a wire or somthing similar, it is not a modification at all. If you solder it or do someting similar, it is a hardware modification.

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Does this boot straight from your sd card or do you still have to use the old cable to pc method?
At first you will need to enter RCM and inject a payload. In a later release you may not need this (maybe depending on you firmware version)
 

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The Tegra has this inputs and is programmed to enter RCM if these inputs are set. This is not a modification. It is designed to work this way.

The Tegra is not the Switch. The Switch has no such inputs. It's a mod. It's not meant to be available to end users.
But that's too far off-topic and you've had that discussion before on other topics. So let's just agree to disagree.

On-topic, I hope emunand and the warmboot softmod exploit come sooner rather than later.
Having to carry the jig mod and a cell with Rekado around for emergencies kinda kills the mobility of the system.
 
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@c80 At first you will need to enter RCM and inject a payload. In a later release you may not need this (maybe depending on you firmware version)[/QUOTE]

Thanks but tbh I don't see the point you might as well jump straight in to reinx cfw, if that's your only choice apart from that my advise is to buy a TX Pro and its features well worth the £40.00 for what you get at this time I say! "as long as you can get one that is"
 
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Dang all this work is impressive ! I think many people don't realize the work involved in rewriting all these parts from scratch, and the benefits it will provide on the long run.



If you have a switch on a FW <= 3.0 there will be ways to launch this without being connected to another device in a near future (possibly on release ?).
If you have a switch on a 3.0 < FW <= 4.1 there will be ways to do it in a foreseeable but more distant future.
If you have a FW>4.1 there is no guarantee for now, new coldboot exploits would need to be discovered.

That's why many of us updated our switches without burning eFuses through rajkosto's tools, this way we will be able to downgrade when the time comes.
Thanks man! Sorry didn't see your reply first. Don't see the benefits but nevermind.
 
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my advise is to buy a TX Pro and its features well worth the £40.00 for what you get at this time I say!
I guess you don't have a degree in electrical engineering, right? I do. The design of the dongle is really bad. They use very cheap components and sell it really expensive. If you buy the parts on ebay and put them together yourself, you can build a dongle like this for much less and much better (e.g. better super caps).
 
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It is a mod. It modifies default hardware behavior by including a button that is not present in the system. It's only not a full on hardmod because it's not permanent, just like flashing the xbox360 dvd drives in the old days - no permanent changes to hardware, only a software update to the drive Firmware. But you DID tamper with the hardware, opening the xbox and connecting it to a PC. By doing so, even in the smallest way, you are already out of the realm of pure softmodding.

In summary, it's not a pure softmod, as it relies on hardware tampering. It's not a hardmod, since said tampering isn't permanent. It's something in between.
But... that's a softmod, too! You're only opening a case, what's getting modified in the end is software, not hardware. For the Switch you're shorting a connection - I wonder what you think pressing a physical button does. If you widen the definition that far then programming is hardmodding, too, as you're modifying code by typing, which is essentially shorting lot's and lot's of connections on your keyboard. Hell typing a letter would be a hardmod, as you're shorting connections on your keyboard. Even switching on any electrical appliance. This whole discussion is ridiculous.
 
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I guess you don't have a degree in electrical engineering, right? I do. The design of the dongle is really bad. They use very cheap components and sell it really expensive. If you buy the parts on ebay and put them together yourself, you can build a dongle like this for much less and much better (e.g. better super caps).
I do actually ha har! I have a GNVQ and a degree in Electronics and Engineering levels 1,2,3 and 4, funny enough! ;) but yes I see your point but you could say that about anything electronically made the Nintendo switch for example as we know it is made up of cheap materials and sold out to the general public a lot more so that method works for everything electric made.

I used a lot of those skills in to modifying consoles like tons lots of Xbox360's and 3DS's, PSPortables, anything really! but please don't tell anyone about that else Microsoft will want me on death row! ;) I also went into Drum n Bass music production which is what I continue and love doing today! each & every weekend!
 
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Thanks that you admit that you were wrong all the time. I'm glad I could help you.

if u have that degree why don't you understand that jig is shorting pins and is a permantly depressed switch in essenece.

also there have been solderless modchips in the past for Xbox, using your logic they're not h/w mods right?.

any alteration that changes behaviour is a mod(ification), get it?
 
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if u have that degree why don't you understand that jig is shorting pins and is a permantly depressed switch in essenece.
I understand that using the jig is essentially the same as pressing a button. This is the reason, why this is not a modification at all.

any alteration that changes behaviour is a mod(ification), get it?
That is correct, but the shortening the pins is the intended way to enter RCM. This is no modification. It obviously does not change the behaviour.
 

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also there have been solderless modchips in the past for Xbox, using your logic they're not h/w mods right?.
Could you explain what these chips do? I'm not familiar with the original Xbox

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It will allow you play backup games ?
Sure, if you use the sig patches
 

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