Hacking And this is exactly why we need a true modchip.

[untok]

Yep but rush is not good hope they got time its required.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

This is why ATM a pi zero configured to run the load on boot would work a treat. Cheap and easily setup. I'll upload a setup script to GitHub once I've finished it I'm working on this now.

That would be perfect. It should more or less work with the existing tools for Linux out of the box so it would be very easy to get working.
Being able to use a smartphone for it in the future would be great too.

 

[guily6669]

You should never discharge a lithium ion. The current necessary to charge increases exponentially and the battery will refuse to charge for safety reasons.

But you still have to do it when your device is reporting battery wrong. Nintendo reports how to calibrate and it's similar to smartphones.

For my Nvidia Shield tablet 4 example Nvidia tells to use the tablet until it dies, turn it on again to see if it turns on or report low battery, then fully charge it while OFF, disconnect usb and turn on it must report 100%.

Then we use it to around 90% and fully charge again and it's calibrated...

Nintendo has a similar way, but it's not exactly the same.

Ps: it always worked 4 me. And my brand new Nintendo was also reporting bad battery, but after the calibration now I have 100% after not using it 4 weeks...

 

[subcon959]

wouldn't a processor capable of running a full blown desktop operating system be overkill? why not a cheap microcontroller like an stm32 or an atmega328p (the one in the arduino)?

Would be cool to be able to use something like the usb dongles we used to hack PS3 in the early days. I think I used a Minimus AVR or something like that.

 

[sarkwalvein]

But you still have to do it when your device is reporting battery wrong. Nintendo reports how to calibrate and it's similar to smartphones.

For my Nvidia Shield tablet 4 example Nvidia tells to use the tablet until it dies, turn it on again to see if it turns on or report low battery, then fully charge it while OFF, disconnect usb and turn on it must report 100%.

Then we use it to around 90% and fully charge again and it's calibrated...

Nintendo has a similar way, but it's not exactly the same.

Ps: it always worked 4 me. And my brand new Nintendo was also reporting bad battery, but after the calibration now I have 100% after not using it 4 weeks...

Your battery will never get to 0% under normal usage.
It actually shows up as "0%" and your device stops using it altogether when it still holds some charge.
The only way to get it to 0% is to use it until it is depleted, and then let it be on storage discharging on its own, disconnected, for a couple of months... then it is gone forever.

 

[subcon959]

This is why ATM a pi zero configured to run the load on boot would work a treat. Cheap and easily setup. I'll upload a setup script to GitHub once I've finished it I'm working on this now.

Are you sure pi zero has the required usb controller?

 

[guily6669]

Your battery will never get to 0% under normal usage.
It actually shows up as "0%" and your device stops using it altogether when it still holds some charge.
The only way to get it to 0% is to use it until it is depleted, and then let it be on storage discharging on its own, disconnected, for a couple of months... then it is gone forever.

Yes offcourse the % I mean is exactly on the device and not battery since 0% would also mean 0 Volts in it which is only good for storing Nicd batteries...

And the calibration is also not on the battery but on the device.

 

[geodeath]

Even if it is really hard to believe, there exist these battery worrying freaks. People that go around with tinfoil hats, telling tales that you shouldn't leave your Switch on the dock because it will make the battery explode, and that you should turn it always completely off so the government can't spy on you and also make your battery explode.

It is not hard to believe because it is proven. The Switch eats away the battery at a phenomenal rate when sleeping, which is why it is almost impossible to bring back from a dead battery without the official charger. Now, i am more than happy for my Switch to charge slowly with other chargers and i do not mind not charging while playing (after all, it is not the official charger) but i HAD to actually wait until it can boot so i can turn it completely off, to charge with another charger.

Also, batteries DO die a slow death when tethered for a long time due to the 99% -> 100% cycle. You cannot do anything about it at all, it is just how batteries work. What i usually do is turn it off completely if i know i am going to need it in a few days for example but i do not want to recharge before i need it (as sleep mode will happily eat most of the battery away during that time if not completely) otherwise i just put it to sleep if i know i am going to turn it on again soon.

If you always play every once in a while there is no need for putting it to sleep anyway. It is not like booting takes a long time either and it comes with no negatives at all.

 

[DeadlyFoez]

Ok. so we know exactly what the TX solderless solution is. That is quite simple.

I believe their soldered product will likely have flash memory built in to it so it can boot CFW, which is why it is taking them so damn long to finish up because they are running into a lot of problems trying to make it compact enough to fit in the switch.

 

[ken28]

What we may see is someone produce a bootkit, so instead of having to open the console or use a pc we just plug a small dongle into the usb-c port which handles the payload.

Or just android/ios with a otg cable

 

[tech3475]

Or just android/ios with a otg cable

Possibly, IIRC they said devices without xhci may need kernel patches so they could restrict how this is used.

For the PS3 they had custom recoveries which were device specific.

 

[sarkwalvein]

It is not hard to believe because it is proven.

Erm... Not sure if you read my post right, but what I say it is "hard to believe" is that "battery worrying freaks exist, people that go around with tinfoil hats, telling tales that you shouldn't leave your Switch on the dock because it will make the battery explode".

I guess it is easy to prove, you should catch one of those wearing the tinfoil hat while telling the tale of exploding batteries and film him with your phone, I guess... but I get this idea you didn't really get what was I telling that was "hard to believe", and I am not quite sure you have gone to the lengths of "proving it". Just saying.

 

[deanspeed]

did you not read my original first post? the title of this thread is "this is exactly why we need a modchip", fusee is tethered, and requires a pc to send the instruction set/payload

You could probably make a dongle of some sort using one of those hobby boards such as "Intel Edison" to send the instructions. This should be sufficient enough, and would make it portable.

 

[andijames]

Are you sure pi zero has the required usb controller?

IIRC the controller is the same as the pi3 it's just a micro USB socket so you'd need micro USB to USB c but that shouldn't be an issue. I'm building mine at the mo so will confirm once i've done it

 

[subcon959]

IIRC the controller is the same as the pi3 it's just a micro USB socket so you'd need micro USB to USB c but that shouldn't be an issue. I'm building mine at the mo so will confirm once i've done it

I think they are all 2.0 though so it might be an issue.

 

[andijames]

Linux doesn't restrict the data size so it should be absolutely fine. I'll confirm in a bit

 

[smf]

Soon, those on 1.0-3.0 will require no hardware solution, and a little after that 3.0.1-4.1.0 will be the same. 5.0 and above will require the jig for exploit installation, but will be untethered after install.

If you're using fusee gelee then it's always tethered coldboot no matter what FW you have.

I don't know if there is a direct CFW loader coming soon, or whether 1.0-3.0 will just allow you to trigger recovery mode without grounding the joycon line and you'll still need to tether to something to exploit it. I suspect nobody wants to burn any exploits before mariko is out, so that will give an indication of the time frame.

 

[guily6669]

Erm... Not sure if you read my post right, but what I say it is "hard to believe" is that "battery worrying freaks exist, people that go around with tinfoil hats, telling tales that you shouldn't leave your Switch on the dock because it will make the battery explode".

I guess it is easy to prove, you should catch one of those wearing the tinfoil hat while telling the tale of exploding batteries and film him with your phone, I guess... but I get this idea you didn't really get what was I telling that was "hard to believe", and I am not quite sure you have gone to the lengths of "proving it". Just saying.

But no one was talking about batteries to the extreme like that...

I just like to preserve my things no matter what it is... that's why most of my devices have 0 scratches... I also like to care about the battery, but I'm not that freak, most of the times my Nvidia Shield tablet stays charging for like 16 hours as I don't even care to remove the AC plug or Im not at home... My father however uses a timer on his devices, I don't...

 

[geodeath]

Erm... Not sure if you read my post right, but what I say it is "hard to believe" is that "battery worrying freaks exist, people that go around with tinfoil hats, telling tales that you shouldn't leave your Switch on the dock because it will make the battery explode".

I guess it is easy to prove, you should catch one of those wearing the tinfoil hat while telling the tale of exploding batteries and film him with your phone, I guess... but I get this idea you didn't really get what was I telling that was "hard to believe", and I am not quite sure you have gone to the lengths of "proving it". Just saying.

Yeah if you put it this way it seems out of focus, but i was mainly responding to the "Even if it is really hard to believe, there exist these battery worrying freaks." part, cause i am not really a battery freak myself but i can see how they deteriorate greatly even within a year. That's what i meant by proven. Sorry if you thought otherwise, obviously my hate for tinfoil hat goverment conspiracy nuts is shared

 

[guily6669]

Ok. so we know exactly what the TX solderless solution is. That is quite simple.

I believe their soldered product will likely have flash memory built in to it so it can boot CFW, which is why it is taking them so damn long to finish up because they are running into a lot of problems trying to make it compact enough to fit in the switch.

They might also be waiting for Atmosphere CFW or just maybe they could be actually making their own CFW too, hope they give news soon about the soldering version as I want extras, not just RCM CFW...