Homebrew USBLoaderGX Black Screen When Games Are Loaded

[Deleted User]

Hello there, when I try to load games like Super Mario Galaxy or The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (both USA versions and my Wii is NTSC-U) my Wii Remote disconnects and I just see a black screen, forcing me to reset my Wii

These were the results of my System Check:

Spoiler

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition by JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, and Nano
...runs on IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: NTSC-U
System Menu 4.3U (v513)

Drive date: 02.13.2007
Homebrew Channel 1.1.2 running on IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Console ID: 73036757
Console Type: Wii
Shop Channel Country: Canada (18)
Boot2 v4
Found 107 titles.
Found 47 IOS on this console. 15 of them are stubs.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS9 (rev 1034): No Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Stub
IOS11 (rev 256): Stub
IOS12 (rev 526): No Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): Trucha Bug
IOS16 (rev 512): Stub
IOS17 (rev 1032): No Patches
IOS20 (rev 256): Stub
IOS21 (rev 1039): No Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): No Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): No Patches
IOS30 (rev 2816): Stub
IOS31 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608): No Patches
IOS37 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS40 (rev 3072): Stub
IOS41 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): No Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): No Patches
IOS50 (rev 5120): Stub
IOS51 (rev 4864): Stub
IOS52 (rev 5888): Stub
IOS53 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): No Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): No Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 6400): Stub
IOS61 (rev 5662): No Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): No Patches
IOS70 (rev 6912): Stub
IOS80 (rev 6944): No Patches
IOS222 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS223 (rev 65280): Stub
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Access
IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Access, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65280): Stub
BC v6
MIOS v10
Report generated on 04/07/2018.

I am using a Sandisk Ultra USB 3.0 (Flash Drive) formatted at FAT32

 

[GreyWolf]

Try a physical HDD? Flash drives don't work very well on Wiis.

 

[Dontwait00]

Hello there, when I try to load games like Super Mario Galaxy or The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword (both USA versions and my Wii is NTSC-U) my Wii Remote disconnects and I just see a black screen, forcing me to reset my Wii

I am using a Sandisk Ultra USB 3.0 (Flash Drive) formatted at FAT32

The problem is not the HDD, but the cIOS. Try this ones.
my wii is a Region 4.3E, and works perfectly. but in case, do a backup.

Link: *Removed URL*

to get it work, put them in the root of sd card. then on HBC, launch wii mod patch (does all automatic). If not working try Wii mod manually.

if did work, tell us about.

 

[Cyan]

Please, do not share wad files, IOS are illegal to share.
If you want to help, just tell the user which version/base he should use, and he will install them (but, you should know that he already has the best cIOS : v8 final !)


If it wasn't wad (you said "try these ones" and the zip is named "wads") but just a tool to automate and randomly install a IOS that you don't even know which version/base, I don't think it's a good idea to share it.
You don't even know yourself what you are using.
I don't like Automate tools because people don't understand what they are doing with it, and sometime it's even bad to use them for the same reason.

edit:
Ohhhh, you know what's funny?
your provided wads are the SAME setup than he already has : d2x v8 final
It means you don't even know what you tell users to install.
Really, you should understand how the console works because it wouldn't have helped. It would just have replace what he already had, doing unnecessary system file replacement and NAND access for nothing.
It means, the problem IS the flash drive, and not the IOS.

 

[Dontwait00]

Please, do not share wad files, IOS are illegal to share.
If you want to help, just tell the user which version/base he should use, and he will install them (but, you should know that he already has the best cIOS : v8 final !)


If it wasn't wad (you said "try these ones" and the zip is named "wads") but just a tool to automate and randomly install a IOS that you don't even know which version/base, I don't think it's a good idea to share it.
You don't even know yourself what you are using.
I don't like Automate tools because people don't understand what they are doing with it, and sometime it's even bad to use them for the same reason.

edit:
Ohhhh, you know what's funny?
your provided wads are the SAME setup than he already has : d2x v8 final
It means you don't even know what you tell users to install.
Really, you should understand how the console works because it wouldn't have helped. It would just have replace what he already had, doing unnecessary system file replacement and NAND access for nothing.
It means, the problem IS the flash drive, and not the IOS.

Didnt know of the illegal "modified input OS" thing really. For that its my bad.

Second, for the cIOS he used, its meaby damaged. I allready knew that what i gived to him was the same ios. Infact, when i was trying to play on my usb i did have the same exact problem. So then, after days, i have found a site with that exact same cIOS, but not damaged. So then installed them and worked.

After years, i lost those cIOS downloaded, so when i heard of him that have this problem, i did a backup of the ios. And gived him the same program (auto-installer original of the forum) and the Wii Mod tool in case didnt find the wads.

Btw sorry for the illegal thing. I didnt know.

Here the original guide i used (if this is legal): https://www.giardiniblog.com/modifica-wii/

 

[Cyan]

You are right, Wiimote disconnecting can be a sign of badly installed cIOS (it's rare, but it happens).
To know if it's really a bad cIOS install, you can notice if the wiimote sync is lost right when the cIOS is loaded in memory : when launching the loader ! (not the game)

if it's "damaged", it's not the IOS or the Wad, but the installation.
all he has to do is re-install it (using d2x installer, instead of a wad manager or an automate tool).


I looked at the guide, and it's even expecting the cIOS install step to crash (because the program is badly written?) I think users shouldn't use it. But, that's probably because I'm already against tools like that and prefer educating everyone to understand what they are doing, why they need it, and how.
also, that program installs a lot of cIOS which are not really needed. hermes cIOS are good, but mostly unused now. 236 is not needed anymore, and MIOS is forced to an old loader instead of letting the user select the one he wants, but again it would be old to pick DIOS MIOS or DML, people now just use nintendont.
For a modest softmod setup, you only need one cIOS (d2x v8 base57) to play all games.

All wii should be like that now : HBC, priiloader if you want, d2x v8 base57, done.
every homebrew will work.

 

[Dontwait00]

You are right, Wiimote disconnecting can be a sign of badly installed cIOS (it's rare, but it happens).
To know if it's really a bad cIOS install, you can notice if the wiimote sync is lost right when the cIOS is loaded in memory : when launching the loader ! (not the game)

if it's "damaged", it's not the IOS or the Wad, but the installation.
all he has to do is re-install it (using d2x installer, instead of a wad manager or an automate tool).


I looked at the guide, and it's even expecting the cIOS install step to crash (because the program is badly written?) I think users shouldn't use it. But, that's probably because I'm already against tools like that and prefer educating everyone to understand what they are doing, why they need it, and how.
also, that program installs a lot of cIOS which are not really needed. hermes cIOS are good, but mostly unused now. 236 is not needed anymore, and MIOS is forced to an old loader instead of letting the user select the one he wants, but again it would be old to pick DIOS MIOS or DML, people now just use nintendont.
For a modest softmod setup, you only need one cIOS (d2x v8 base57) to play all games.

All wii should be like that now : HBC, priiloader if you want, d2x v8 base57, done.
every homebrew will work.

Yeah. The most important are those. Btw i didnt know off the d2x v8 base57 only needed.
Really its like a year i not used the Wii. Its not my primary console.

And giardiniblog.com are famous in italy as a blogger of modding.

Good to know that you dont like automatic tool. Funny thing eheh (its a bad way to use ufficial homebrew like this, but there are some people who dont like fiddle in system)

 

[matthew2822]

I am having the same issue here, any solution?

 

[Cyan]

most common setup is to install 2 cIOS :
249 with base56 (because it was the default slot used by USBLoaders, and 56 was found to have the fastest USB access speed, good for game loading time)
250 with base57 (because some games need base57 and doesn't work with base56)
so, most users are just using base56 by default, and only set slot250 (to get base57) for Call of Duty and Just dance.


For a minimal setup (with only one cIOS to install) I usually suggest base57 only, so all games are working. Users don't even see the speed difference between 56/57.
But, lately, some users found games which work only with 56 (Spyro) and not 57, so either base56 or 57 are fine as default, the user will have to switch anyway based on the game they play.


@moivedude:
if you have the same issue, apply the same solution?
DO NOT USE FLASH DRIVE <-- this is the solution
I don't know why this month we have a loooooot more users using Flash drives. It's like a full batch of new users discovered the Wii hacking world this month and they all followed the same guide telling them to use flash drives.
Everyone has been using HDD for years without issue, and in 2018 everyone just want flash drives...

 

[matthew2822]

most common setup is to install 2 cIOS :
249 with base56 (because it was the default slot, and 56 was found to have the fastest USB access speed, good for game loading time)
250 with base57 (because some games need base57 and doesn't work with base56)
so, most users are just using base56 by default, and only set slot250 (to get base57) for Call of Duty and Just dance.


For a minimal setup (with only one cIOS to install) I usually suggest base57 only, so all games are working. Users don't even see the speed difference between 56/57.
But, lately, some users found games which work only with 56 (Spyro) and not 57, so either base56 or 57 are fine as default, the user will have to switch anyway based on the game they play.


@moviedude:
if you have the same issue, apply the same solution?
DO NOT USE FLASH DRIVE <-- this is the solution
I don't know why this month we have a loooooot more users using Flash drives. It's like a full batch of new users discovered the Wii hacking world this month and they all followed the same guide telling them to use flash drives.
Everyone has been using HDD for years without issue, and in 2018 everyone just want flash drives...

so should I not even try with a flash drive, or do you think I installed something wrong along the way. I'm kinda new to this so I wouldn't doubt I did something wrong.

 

[Cyan]

Flash could work, but have a lot of problem, and a lot of them are not compatible.
So, if you want to be sure I think it's best to test with known working setup/device.

You could have both problems : flash AND your setup, but it will be hard to find the problem if you keep using something which can be a problem.

If possible, use HDD. If not, try another flash drive, if not possible try a SD card to USB adapter (strangely, they work better than flash drives, even if they are eMMC too?), if still not working get a HDD (you'll need it anyway, because flash will freeze/lag/black screen randomly)

 

[matthew2822]

Flash could work, but have a lot of problem, and a lot of them are not compatible.
So, if you want to be sure I think it's best to test with known working setup/device.

You could have both problems : flash AND your setup, but it will be hard to find the problem if you keep using something which can be a problem.

If possible, use HDD. If not, try another flash drive, if not possible try a SD card to USB adapter (strangely, they work better than flash drives, even if they are eMMC too?), if still not working get a HDD (you'll need it anyway, because flash will freeze/lag/black screen randomly)

Someone did send me a list of compatable flash drives for usbloader, and mine was on it (Sandisk Cruzer Glide 32GB). I am assuming I either have a setting wrong in usbloader, or I installed the cIOS's wrong. Anything I can try?

 

[Cyan]

1. reset all the loader settings
2. if you use USBLoaderGX > settings > credit > verify you are not using d2x v10-alt r53
You need d2x v8 final OR v10r52, any other cIOS are wrong.

but you have the same problem ? black screen AND wiimote unsync ?

 

[matthew2822]

1. reset all the loader settings
2. if you use USBLoaderGX > settings > credit > verify you are not using d2x v10-alt r53
You need d2x v8 final OR v10r52, any other cIOS are wrong.

but you have the same problem ? black screen AND wiimote unsync ?

I reset the settings, but it says I am using d2x v10beta52 base56. And yes, I get a black screen and my wiimote disconnects. Still doesn't work after resetting settings.

 

[Cyan]

your IOS is good.
try HDD instead of flash, or any other device you can.

also, be sure to plug the device in USB Port 0, or else it will not work !
that would be stupid to search for a possible install or setup problem when it's just because you don't use the correct USB Port.
it could also be the USB cable's fault (yes, it already happened)

 

[matthew2822]

your IOS is good.
try HDD instead of flash, or any other device you can.

also, be sure to plug the device in USB Port 0, or else it will not work !
that would be stupid to search for a possible install or setup problem when it's just because you don't use the correct USB Port.
it could also be the USB cable's fault (yes, it already happened)

damn, dont have a hdd anyhwere. any other things I could possibly do?

 

[Cyan]

anything with a USB plug (yes, even your phone! though, I wouldn't recommend if you don't know what you are doing)
if you don't have a HDD ... buy one. Really, who don't have a HDD at home? if you have a computer, a HDD is useful.

 

[matthew2822]

anything with a USB plug (yes, even your phone! though, I wouldn't recommend if you don't know what you are doing)
if you don't have a HDD ... buy one. Really, who don't have a HDD at home? if you have a computer, a HDD is useful.

is slot 0 on the right side of the wii?

 

[GreyWolf]

Port 0 is the one closest to the edge of the console.

 

[matthew2822]

anything with a USB plug (yes, even your phone! though, I wouldn't recommend if you don't know what you are doing)
if you don't have a HDD ... buy one. Really, who don't have a HDD at home? if you have a computer, a HDD is useful.

Hey cyan, would a WD Passport be okay to use, and compatible?