Hacking Question about Switch performance and dynamic resolution scaling?

[FliP0x]

The Switch doesn't overheat because the chipset is downclocked to reduce heat. If it was running at full power, well..

Some Switches even bent due to the heat produced by a downclocked chipset, one could only imagine what would happen to the Switch if it was running as fast as the Shield.

 

[nmkd]

The Switch doesn't overheat because the chipset is downclocked to reduce heat. If it was running at full power, well..

Some Switches even bent due to the heat produced by a downclocked chipset, one could only imagine what would happen to the Switch if it was running as fast as the Shield.

I doubt the bending was caused by heat. I rather think there were faulty units.

Source: I have a GPD Win. Gaming at 75°c! (and it doesn't bend at all)

 

[DeslotlCL]

I doubt the bending was caused by heat. I rather think there were faulty units.

Source: I have a GPD Win. Gaming at 75°c! (and it doesn't bend at all)

It depends heavily on the materials of the device. The switch has pretty cheap materials here and there (for example, the plastic screen...), whereas a phone, even a mid range one, has better materials becuase phones do indeen get very warm at times, and they are designed to protect the device itself from the heat.

 

[Kioku]

I doubt the bending was caused by heat. I rather think there were faulty units.

Source: I have a GPD Win. Gaming at 75°c! (and it doesn't bend at all)

Is the GPD win made of the same materials as the Switch? No? Then you're just speculating, yeah?

 

[GunzOfNavarone]

The fact that Ninty have cheaped out on the internal components/design of the switch make me hesitant to buy one, until they've at least addressed the issue, in a redesign. But you'd never know they had until a recent model was disassembled.

 

[reds]

About this bending issue.. Maybe it wasn't a heat-related problem or even a faulty unit, maybe someone sat on a switch and later claimed that it got bent? Either that or it was caused due to flexing when playing furiously..

 

[Athlon-pv]

The fact that Ninty have cheaped out on the internal components/design of the switch make me hesitant to buy one, until they've at least addressed the issue, in a redesign. But you'd never know they had until a recent model was disassembled.

I very much doubt that this is the case. If you look at their hardware GameCube Wii WiiU seldom you find hardware failures. This means that Nintendo does know what they are doing. The only failures with the DS were those pesky hinges which is a build issue rather then overheating failure.

So what you might mean is why could Nintendo not buy better Nvidia tegra then this one and the answer is simple the other Tegra that are upgraded prolly behaved a lot worse in the same scenario as the one they ended up with (performance combined with power draw & heat).

 

[sarkwalvein]

About this bending issue.. Maybe it wasn't a heat-related problem or even a faulty unit, maybe someone sat on a switch and later claimed that it got bent? Either that or it was caused due to flexing when playing furiously..

I've read it happens due to the unit flexing as the metal plate expands when heated.
In a smartphone the expansion is countered by the very rigid glass used in the screen, but the plastic screen on the switch is flexible and doesn't show so much resistance.
Of course I've read that in the temps, so take it with a grain of salt.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

About this bending issue.. Maybe it wasn't a heat-related problem or even a faulty unit, maybe someone sat on a switch and later claimed that it got bent? Either that or it was caused due to flexing when playing furiously..

I'm thinking that that's the one

 

[Kioku]

I'm thinking that that's the one

My first switch sat in the dock. Only taken out when I played before bed. Then sat on a stable surface (lol stability). It did, in fact, bend. So, I can assume there's some truth in heat issues.

 

[TotalInsanity4]

My first switch sat in the dock. Only taken out when I played before bed. Then sat on a stable surface (lol stability). So, I can assume there's some truth in heat issues.

Did it bend?

 

[Kioku]

Did it bend?

Yes. I thought that was apparent? As much as I like to tell my life story.... Zzzzzz

 

[TotalInsanity4]

Yes. I thought that was apparent? As much as I like to tell my life story.... Zzzzzz

Hurm. If it is heat related, I'm guessing that it was probably a faulty first batch. My Switch has been swapped between handheld and docked about a 75/25 ratio respectively, and it's still in the same shape as it came in from the box

 

[Kioku]

Hurm. If it is heat related, I'm guessing that it was probably a faulty first batch. My Switch has been swapped between handheld and docked about a 75/25 ratio respectively, and it's still in the same shape as it came in from the box

It could be. It's not uncommon for any system/hardware to have issues upon release. My current one hasn't seen any signs of warping or bending.

 

[Migoma]

If we could just get docked speeds while in portable mode like someone said it'll be fine if we lose 1 hour of battery life I use mine plugged to a power bank most the times and it wouldn't overheat more than what it does docked

This could fix games like Lego City that runs poorly Xenoblade Chronicles 2 with the dynamic resolution and doom, rime etc

 

[Rauliki]

Well, emulation will take as much power as it needs (since there's an FPS cap), I doubt underclocking would change power usage.

Undervolting would be more interesting...

It would be if we had kernel source and I think we don't have. Usually underclocking means working on less current = less battery drain and Switch has plenty of power to emulate older consoles (anything below psp / ps2 / DC should be a piece of cake)

 

[GunzOfNavarone]

I very much doubt that this is the case. If you look at their hardware GameCube Wii WiiU seldom you find hardware failures. This means that Nintendo does know what they are doing. The only failures with the DS were those pesky hinges which is a build issue rather then overheating failure.

So what you might mean is why could Nintendo not buy better Nvidia tegra then this one and the answer is simple the other Tegra that are upgraded prolly behaved a lot worse in the same scenario as the one they ended up with (performance combined with power draw & heat).

None of the consoles Nintendo have released thus far have attempted what they have attempted with this console i.e. trying to retain the same graphical prowess of a home console, on-the-go. One drawback of this is heat and it's dispersal and when things get warm inside a device, unless there is something rigid to retain the shape, warping can happen. As some have mentioned on other forums, the majority of smartphones and tablets contain glass screens which stops this happening as they give it a rigidity, but Nintendo have opted for plastic. It sounds like there is something in the middle which is trying to retain the shape but failing miserably which is why the ones that have bent, have bent there. Whether it's from prolonged play, prolonged dock play... who knows. But it sounds very much like a bad design choice and Nintendo have released various models of their consoles throughout their lifetimes, whether it be internal or external.

 

[nmkd]

It would be if we had kernel source and I think we don't have. Usually underclocking means working on less current = less battery drain and Switch has plenty of power to emulate older consoles (anything below psp / ps2 / DC should be a piece of cake)

PSP and DC won't be a problem either (Just GC and Wii will get tricky, and PS2 will likely be impossible).

 

[FliP0x]

Would be surprising that so many people that reported bent switched sat on them. I could believe this for 3-4 cases, but not all of them.

 

[subcon959]

I'm pretty sure Nintendo did a lot of testing on this and didn't gimp the Switch for no good reason. Some of you really don't think things through logically.