Team-Xecuter announces future-proof Switch exploit

Team-Xecuter revealed in a teaser a method to bypass all Switch security in a manner that they claim will never be patched by Nintendo and is compatible with every firmware available!

In the video, they show a custom boot image and have publicly posted the Stage2 Bootloader key (package 1.1) which has been confirmed to be legit as proof of their pwnage over the device.

This solution will work on ANY Nintendo Switch console regardless of the currently installed firmware, and will be completely future proof. This is *the* solution for opening up CFW (Custom FirmWare) on the Nintendo Switch. We want to move the community forward and provide a persistent, stable and fast method of running your own code and custom firmware patches on Nintendo's latest flagship product. And we think we've succeeded!

Below you can find a quick video showcasing a Nintendo Switch booting up, but there s something funny going on, can you spot it?



This is expected to be a DRM/paid "device", speculated to be a tx1 glitch style modchip that will enable CFW and full access to the system, which unfortunately(?) includes piracy.

A T-X forum admin expects release around Spring of 2018

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Yaba Sanshiro (uoYabause) say's hi...



But what is the state of most good games? Man, if this really is good you made my day!

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Well, i just took a look at the compatibility chart, it does not look that well.. Some games might be all right, but i am talking about almost perfect emulation here, expecting very few glitches or a ratio of perfect/non perfect games of a 70/80% at least to consider an emulator great. Not to dismiss the hard work it is already, just stating the obvious, that saturn is still behind in having really great emulators.
 

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I don't even know why Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, etc even worry about piracy. The percentage of people who even know how to pirate, or take the time to learn how to pirate these consoles is negligible compared to the masses that buy the product because they don't know how, or even have the time to hack. The vast majority of people that buy gaming consoles are completely clueless when it comes to computer skills that are necessary to hack these consoles. Needless to say, these masses won't be hacking their consoles.

Take the PS3 for example. Statistics show that there were over 80 million units sold. When you look at the download statistics for the files used to crack the PS3, most of these files only show tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of downloads. Torrent downloads are not accounted for here, but most people are not downloading critical hack files off of torrent sites unless you want to brick your console. These files are usually downloaded off of reputable scene sites. I would estimate that only about 1-2% of the consoles are hacked, and that's being generous. From what I have observed, similar statistics can be said for the Wii U as well. In all reality, piracy on these consoles only affects a small sliver of the total profit margin that these companies and game developers make. No matter how "easy" the hack is, it will still have very little affect on the bottom line for these companies as the vast majority of the population does not have even the basic computer skills necessary to apply these hacks.
 
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I don't even know why Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, etc even worry about piracy. The percentage of people who even know how to pirate, or take the time to learn how to pirate these consoles is negligible compared to the masses that buy the product. The vast majority of people that buy gaming consoles are completely clueless when it comes to computer skills that are necessary to hack these consoles. Needless to say, these masses won't be hacking their consoles.

Take the PS3 for example. Statistics show that there were over 80 million units sold. When you look at the download statistics for the files used to crack the PS3, most of these files only show tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of downloads. Torrent downloads are not accounted for here, but most people are not downloading critical hack files off of torrent sites unless you want to brick your console. These files are usually downloaded off of reputable scene sites. I would estimate that only about 1-2% of the consoles are hacked, and that's being generous. From what I have observed, similar statistics can be said for the Wii U as well. In all reality, piracy on these consoles only affects a small sliver of the total profit margin that these companies and game developers make. No matter how "easy" the hack is, it will still have very little affect on the bottom line for these companies as the vast majority of the population does not have even the basic computer skills necessary to apply these hacks.

You know you would think at this point most of the people in this forum would've heard of the piracy study that showed that piracy has no effect on sales, and even the most skeptical of us would at least consider who would want to suppress it, why they would want to suppress and just how they actually got the EU. to withhold it.

The US entertainment industry straight fucking owns politicians. The governors of TWO states are actors, as well as an EX-PRESIDENT. Nevermind that the current sitting president that had a television show, (since it was before his time). There's really only one organization that could force the EU to suppress their own study, obviously the US govt.

Edit: Originally I attributed the Study to Britain, It was awhile since I heard anything of it (and my memory sucks). Here is a link to the actual paper produced from the study).
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Yeah I caught that. So if that is true, a bug similar to sighax wouldn't be able to be patched because the space used to store bootrom patches is already filled.
That's what it sounds like to me, and probably is also why TX is claiming that it can't be patched without a hardware revision. I'm just running on straight speculation here. I do know that the CLKscrew research was published in August, and that the Switch is just another ARM system so it isn't really much of a reach to think that TX could've started working on it at anytime between August and their announcement (if indeed it is based on that specific glitch/vuln). Spring sounds pretty optimistic if they haven't been working on it since then.
 
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Yeah i think this is the issue with me too. If I have a million games, I just never finish any of them. I got a flashcart for my DS years ago and loaded it with tons of games, but I never made any progress because I had such a large collection of games I wanted to play that I never could truly experience them
Here's a solution to your problems. Find a hot girl who likes to play these games as well. Start a game together, and play all the way through that game together whenever you both have the time to play it. Share the experience. With a fun gaming buddy, preferably a hot girl that you can share "post gaming" experiences with;), playing one game at a time from start to finish is much easier to do. This works for me. Otherwise, I know how it goes when you are just playing on your own, and you have downloaded hundreds of games, it's easy to keep switching from one game to the next, never finishing any of them.
 
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I just got back from bestbuy! after seeing this I got an extra switch because I know people are about to start buying them up and putting the price way up there and if they did that I would not be able to buy me a switch for a long time.
 

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I just got back from bestbuy! after seeing this I got an extra switch because I know people are about to start buying them up and putting the price way up there and if they did that I would not be able to buy me a switch for a long time.
No, that won't happen. Not at least the product is officially revealed, and even then still probably not.
 
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No, that won't happen. Not at least the product is officially revealed, and even then still probably not.
you may be right on that happening when they reveal the product but if they come out with a new switch with new hardwere (like one with a bigger screen or something) then the old systems the ones out now will go up in price because they will be the hack-able ones. I'm just thinking way to far ahead is all.
 

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Yeah i think this is the issue with me too. If I have a million games, I just never finish any of them. I got a flashcart for my DS years ago and loaded it with tons of games, but I never made any progress because I had such a large collection of games I wanted to play that I never could truly experience them

Yeah, there is something about having too many choices. The way I do it is I limit myself to 5 games I'm playing at any time (usually all from different genres), that way I play a game until I finish it or I get totally bored with it and at that point I go on to the next one. That works for me. But there is also that thing where you usually value something you paid for more than something you got for free.
 
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I'm actually kind of sad about this
Why? Its been proven piracy doesn't harm game sales and I have yet to see a console actually fail because of piracy. Console piracy is a very small subsection of console users, most console owners don't have the capacity to even follow directions for a free software-only exploit, let alone a hardmod that involves opening the system.
 

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Why? Its been proven piracy doesn't harm game sales and I have yet to see a console actually fail because of piracy. Console piracy is a very small subsection of console users, most console owners don't have the capacity to even follow directions for a free software-only exploit, let alone a hardmod that involves opening the system.
Exactly, its more the opposite...... ironically but true.
 
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I'm trying to duck out of the Android-on-Switch debate but it's difficult with the responses I'm getting...

There are. There's the Shield Portable/Tablet

Shield portable - out of production and less powerful than the switch
Shield Tablet - no built in controls (it's a Tablet...)

, GPD products,

All GPD Android devices are far less powerful than the Switch...

and a million Android phones/tablets with higher-end GPUs.

None of which have built-in controls.

So, please... enlighten me as to where I can get a portable Android device, with built-in controls, which is as powerful as the Switch. I'll even forgo you the claim of "far cheaper" - any one of these hundreds of similar devices you talk of can be just as much as the Switch.... I'd happily consider one. Especially if it features the same conveninet dock facility that the Switch has.


I honestly find it hard to believe you think Android is worth a damn for gaming. If that was the case then Shield products would've sold way better than Switch and Nvidia never would've partnered with Nintendo.

The Shield products were pretty-much showcases for the chipsets they featured. Tablets and TV boxes were peculiar choices for the second generation, as clearly a lot of convenience is lost by losing the portability, but then who knows just how long they've been in discussions with Nintendo about powering the Switch.

Also without the cost or throttling. You think Saturn and N64 emulation won't lag on Switch if someone hacks together an Android port? They will. Doubly so if anyone can get them running portable.

What are you talking about? These emulators already play pretty well on the original Shield, and flawlessly on the Shield TV. The Switch is far more powerful than the original Shield, even in portable mode, so you're going to see better performance.

A Shield TV is the better option for demanding emulators. Saves you $100+ on a modchip and the wasted effort installing an OS you've surely got running on five other devices by now.

I've got it running on more than 5... None of which are both as powerful and as portable as the Switch, though, and none of which have a TV dock facility (man I'm having to repeat myself a *lot*)

The prospect of running Steam games is intriguing, but running Android games is a downgrade from what Switch already does (lighter OS and newer games), even if you do factor in emulators.

It's not a downgrade. Nobody's saying that you wouldn't be able to play Switch games as well (though if I had to chose between only Android, or Switch with the current library, I'd go for Android...). But you seem to be advocating that there's no advantage to having Android and all the software that comes with it in addition to being able to play all the Switch's library. And that makes no sense at all.
 

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Yes, if it's a modchip which it will be hardware of some sorts because it's TX, they don't release anything for free. Will I be back in business, yes. The person stealing 3ds has long since been banned. I wonder if everyone ended up getting theirs back...

I had a total of 10 out for repair / mod and got 4 back....
 

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It's not a downgrade. Nobody's saying that you wouldn't be able to play Switch games as well (though if I had to chose between only Android, or Switch with the current library, I'd go for Android...). But you seem to be advocating that there's no advantage to having Android and all the software that comes with it in addition to being able to play all the Switch's library. And that makes no sense at all.
No advantage is taking it a bit far, but Windows/Linux present far more advantages and possibilities than Android does. I'd rather add Switch's power (and built-in controls) to a more gaming-friendly OS. Not only do you get all those emulators (and touchscreen support with Win10), you also get Steam, GOG, mods, etc. I've seen Android at its best in Shield TV, it's not that impressive save for streaming.
 
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No advantage is taking it a bit far, but Windows/Linux present far more advantages and possibilities than Android does. I'd rather add Switch's power (and built-in controls) to a more gaming-friendly OS. Not only do you get all those emulators (and touchscreen support with Win10), you also get Steam, GOG, mods, etc. I've seen Android at its best in Shield TV, it's not that impressive save for streaming.

Well Windows is out of the question in any meaningful gaming way due to architecture differences. Linux would allow you to use a lot of emulators in a very touch-unfriendly environment, so you'd either have a load of emulators that are a PITA to use, or you'd have to wait for emulators to be optimized for portable devices; in which case they may as well just be ported to run straight on top of the Switch OS. I think you'd probably have similar issues with Windows emulators, as I doubt many of them have touch/small screen optimizations.

Android emulators are already designed to run on portable devices so for an instant library it's still, as far as I can see, the best bet. Hopefully, of course, native emulators would be developed over time for anything that Android was unable to cope with.
 
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Well Windows is out of the question in any meaningful gaming way due to architecture differences. Linux would allow you to use a lot of emulators in a very touch-unfriendly environment, so you'd either have a load of emulators that are a PITA to use, or you'd have to wait for emulators to be optimized for portable devices; in which case they may as well just be ported to run straight on top of the Switch OS. I think you'd probably have similar issues with Windows emulators, as I doubt many of them have touch/small screen optimizations.

Android emulators are already designed to run on portable devices so for an instant library it's still, as far as I can see, the best bet. Hopefully, of course, native emulators would be developed over time for anything that Android was unable to cope with.
Eh, fair points. From my point of view it's so mundane going through the effort to only get emulators I already have on several other devices, portable or not. Android's native gaming library is completely uninteresting to me, the best stuff is just ports of games from older consoles anyway, aka the same stuff you get in emulators/roms.
 
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Ok; horses for courses at the end of all that! Well this particular section of the conversation has reached it's natural conclusion then :)
 
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