Anyone here believe a ghost?

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[Deleted member 377734]

The treacherous and deceiving god Yahweh is no creator, for Jews have suffered since the birth of Jesus, and their old pantheons cast out, forgotten, replaced with the venomous bible.
Asherah and El would like to have a word, false god.

And which part did you miss in the Bible that say's the Jews have suffered because they were responsible for the death of Jesus ? that they brought it upon themselves ? get your stuff right.
The Jews religion had fallen apart by then.

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You didnt read above did you ? GOd said in the bible.. NO.. NO HELL. Return to the dust where they came from so they will not have an everlasting life at all.

Exactly. the Bible says the devil lures people to Hell, not that God sends them.

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Good question.. Here:

Eternal torment would violate God’s justice.

(Deuteronomy 32:4) When the first man, Adam, sinned, God told him that his punishment would simply be to pass out of existence: “Dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19) Remember, God told him that he would simply be to pass out of existence -- Dust you are made of and to dust you will return. God would have been lying if he were actually sending Adam to a fiery hell. Bible itself didnt say anything about Hell. False church is lying to you. Surprise ?
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Just to clarify this.....but when he said that, he meant the body would return to dust, which it does. not the soul. the soul will go to heaven or hell depending on how it lived.
According to the bible, the body and soul are two different entities. the body is controlled by the soul.

 

[Axido]

What the heck is wrong with you? This is a thread about ghosts. Can't you take your conversation about the earliest science fiction book of mankind somewhere else?

 

[Deleted member 377734]

Not even gonna bother arguing with you on that.

 

[JavaScribe]

I'm sorry but believing in higher powers is something out dated.

It's been known for pretty much ever that the earth is round. Is believing the earth is round outdated?

I've repeatedly said "If god exists, he may strike me down right now", I'm still alive and not struck down.
It's just something made up by people.

If I say to my friend, "If you exist, kill me," and he doesn't kill me, does that mean he's just a figment of my imagination? He could be imaginary, but it doesn't mean he is.

Eternal torment would violate God’s justice.

Of all things, you chose justice?

Remember.. God is love. He wouldn't do that to people!!! God does not even contemplate eternal torment. The idea that he would punish people in hellfire is really opposite to the Bible’s teaching that “God is love.”— 1 John 4:8; Jeremiah 7:31.

No.. He has destroyed entire cities because they turned against God and God punished them for that. He is a kind and love God and helped them through the bible and some people still turn against him. That's why he removed them but condemn people to hell ? No. Read above what verse is telling you is why God is loved and he wont torment evil people to hell.. For what ? Evil people return to dust from where they are made of so they wont deserve to live forever.

About that...

Exactly. the Bible says the devil lures people to Hell, not that God sends them.

Yeah, that.

Just to clarify this.....but when he said that, he meant the body would return to dust, which it does. not the soul. The soul will go to heaven or hell depending on how it lived.
According to the Bible, the body and soul are two different entities. The body is controlled by the soul.

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[Yil]

And which part did you miss in the Bible that say's the Jews have suffered because they were responsible for the death of Jesus ? that they brought it upon themselves ? get your stuff right.
The Jews religion had fallen apart by then.

Before Moses Lead Jews out of Eygpt, before Jews even went to Eygpt and still live in Israel, they were Polytheist. Yahweh was not the head pantheon, merely serving under the supreme deity El, while he is married to Asherah, who is no less powerful. Back then Jews were so focused on Masculinity. Yahweh was a jealous murderer who rose to power by betraying both his wife and his lord, plaguing the Egyptian, and with the birth of Jesus failed his role as God of Jews.
Yahweh plagued Egypt, cause Jews to suffer when he stripped them away of their proper pantheon, and at last betray his own believer. Why would anyone believe in this demon who still plagues the world over any other Gods?

Exactly. the Bible says the devil lures people to Hell, not that God sends them.

Also remember any other deity's realm is part of Hell by Christian standard.

Just to clarify this.....but when he said that, he meant the body would return to dust, which it does. not the soul. the soul will go to heaven or hell depending on how it lived.
According to the bible, the body and soul are two different entities. the body is controlled by the soul.

As is many other religions.

 

[Deleted member 377734]

Before Moses Lead Jews out of Eygpt, before Jews even went to Eygpt and still live in Israel, they were Polytheist. Yahweh was not the head pantheon, merely serving under the supreme deity El, while he is married to Asherah, who is no less powerful. Back then Jews were so focused on Masculinity. Yahweh was a jealous murderer who rose to power by betraying both his wife and his lord, plaguing the Egyptian, and with the birth of Jesus failed his role as God of Jews.
Yahweh plagued Egypt, cause Jews to suffer when he stripped them away of their proper pantheon, and at last betray his own believer. Why would anyone believe in this demon who still plagues the world over any other Gods?

i'm gonna go ahead and ask which work of fiction you got this shit from ? The Da Vinci Code maybe ?

 

[RustInPeace]

I believe in this guy more.

 

[Yil]

i'm gonna go ahead and ask which work of fiction you got this shit from ? The Da Vinci Code maybe ?

No. Just spend a little time searching Asherah. Yahweh's later doings are recorded in the Bible and our own history. Jews are miserable among Christians and Yahweh has one job to keep Jews living a good life and failed that to gain new followers.

 

[jDSX]

Yes I have the proof actually seriously

 

[Yil]

I believe in this guy more.

Intelligence cannot replace sensibility.

 

[Deleted member 377734]

No. Just spend a little time searching Asherah.

And read what someone decided to post on the Internet ? god you are an idiot. if you actually read the Bible, you'd know that this Yahweh you're going off about is one of the false gods the Jews worshipped when they strayed from their faith in Canaan. Not GOD.

 

[RustInPeace]

Intelligence cannot replace sensibility.

Well I can see this thread is too serious for me.

 

[Yil]

And read what someone decided to post on the Internet ? god you are an idiot. if you actually read the Bible, you'd know that this Yahweh you're going off about is one of the false gods the Jews worshipped when they strayed from their faith in Canaan. Not GOD.

So you are implying Jesus is the son of El?

 

[Deleted member 377734]

So you are implying Jesus is the son of El?

No Jesus is the son of GOD, the other deities you've been bringing up are false idols, created and worshipped by the Canaanites. and far as I know, the Hebrews called GOD Jenova, not Yahweh. Jenova literally means "God" in Hebrew.

 

[Yil]

No Jesus is the son of GOD, the other deities you've been bringing up are false idols, created and worshipped by the Canaanites. and far as I know, the Hebrews called GOD Jenova, not Yahweh. Jenova literally means "God" in Hebrew.

These false idols have been around much longer than Christianity. Also how is water walking, resurrection and healing supposed to prove divinity? Not impressive enough to be worshiped.
How the devil's image is close to that of Poseidon to demonize the Greek pantheon?

 

[Deleted member 377734]

These false idols have been around much longer than Christianity. Also how is water walking, resurrection and healing supposed to prove divinity? Not impressive enough to be worshiped.

listen, we can sit here and argue about this all day...but here's my opinion.
Take it and shove it up your arse.
not impressive enough to warrant divinity ? what do you and I even know about that, besides what we've read in books or comics ? nothing. you go ahead and set your standards by reading fiction, and i'll stick to real life. meaning i'll worship the guy that'll get me into heaven, not whatever I think is the most powerful or the coolest one on the Wikipedia pages.
Have a good life.

 

[DarthDub]

A ghost shakes my bed every night.

 

[Yil]

listen, we can sit here and argue about this all day...but here's my opinion.
Take it and shove it up your arse.
not impressive enough to warrant divinity ? what do you and I even know about that, besides what we've read in books or comics ? nothing. you go ahead and set your standards by reading fiction, and i'll stick to real life. meaning i'll worship the guy that'll get me into heaven, not whatever I think is the most powerful or the coolest one on the Wikipedia pages.
Have a good life.

If you Christians stop belittling ancestral worship and Paganism I will definitely stop. Also you start posting bible verses on a relatively irrelevant topic about ghosts.
Also in my home contury's lore any human with sufficient training can pull off much better than Jesus. And I will always trust a ghost than an angel cause I know I have less chance of being fucked over by a former mortal than a spirit.

 

[Chary]

the soul will go to heaven or hell depending on how it lived.

I can't believe I'm posting on this thread, let alone in an off tracks religion debate, but just cuz it's driving me crazy, Christianity, at least, dictates it's not how you lived or what you did in life; it's your faith in Jesus that'll get you to heaven, so says the Bible.