Hacking derrek: we also got the #NintendoSwitch TrustZone code!

[punderino]

So if TrustZone is exploited, is it something that can be patched with a software update, or would an entire hardware change be required?

It's a module, so yeah, they can update it all they want.

 

[Deleted User]

So if TrustZone is exploited, is it something that can be patched with a software update, or would an entire hardware change be required?

updatable, though I would imagine risky.

 

[KiiWii]

hype for friendzone and kernal.

Total hype

But I'm a patient man. When it happens it happens

Also: confirmed on latest update or?

 

[Abu_Senpai]

More good and bad news

 

[Deleted-355425]

Total hype

But I'm a patient man. When it happens it happens

Also: confirmed on latest update or?

We never found out.

 

[wormdood]

So if TrustZone is exploited, is it something that can be patched with a software update, or would an entire hardware change be required?

here you can find explanation

http://www.openvirtualization.org/open-source-arm-trustzone.html

here is a little quote from the linked source
"TrustZone technology is programmed into the hardware"
i think that means they cant change it . . . directly . . .

 

[linuxares]

Coincidentally, Google's Project Zero published an article detailing potential exploits in ARM TrustZone software today. In particular, there's an exploit in most Qualcomm implementations and older versions of Trustonic’s Kinibi TEE, which is present in Samsung's Exynos-based phones prior to the Galaxy S8 and S8+.

One interesting thing the article mentions is rollback (downgrade) protection, which is also present in Wii U and has been verified to be present on Switch. The implementation mentioned here is eFuses, whereas Wii U's implementation used SEEPROM.

Oh it's confirmed now. Kind of figured that would happen sooner or later.

 

[peteruk]

wow didn't expect to see this thread when I logged on here this evening, this is massive

as another member already mentioned I really hope that @SciresM can get this done as he normally shares all with the community

 

[SciresM]

Oh god damnit, it's gonna be like the 360 all over again. No real way to downgrade.

The switch does use fuse downgrade protection -- you can actually tell this by dumping and reverse engineering its (plaintext) stage 1 bootloader.

And obviously I can't tell the future, but whatever I eventually work on will be released for people to use, since that's kind of the point.

 

[Deleted User]

The switch does use fuse downgrade protection -- you can actually tell this by dumping and reverse engineering its (plaintext) stage 1 bootloader.

Ah my apologies. Read efuses and instantly remembered the 360 stuff

 

[SciresM]

Ah my apologies. Read efuses and instantly remembered the 360 stuff

I said "does" -- you were right that switch is protected similar to how xb360 was (though I've never owned an Xbox and don't actually know how that worked in reality)

 

[Deleted User]

I said "does" -- you were right that switch is protected similar to how xb360 was (though I've never owned an Xbox and don't actually know how that worked in reality)

lol i'm fucking tired. Thanks for correcting me again haha

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I said "does" -- you were right that switch is protected similar to how xb360 was (though I've never owned an Xbox and don't actually know how that worked in reality)

Edit: I just realised who I'm bloody talking to. If it's the real sciresM, glad I was right so! And hi! lol

 

[StonedPurple]

Efuses..... Great.... I'm having visions of endless threads where people bricked their switch trying to downgrade.

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

https://twitter.com/derrekr6/status/889556685353881600
One step closer!
Trustzone is basically the deepest security module, it's like arm9 on the 3DS, and IOSU on the Wii U. (I believe at least.)

Homebrew when?

Holy shit. HOLY. SHIT. First they dumped kernel and now they have fucking TRUSTZONE?! That's really impressive. FIVE MONTHS. F I V E.
Also:
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[Deleted User]

Efuses..... Great.... I'm having visions of endless threads where people bricked their switch trying to downgrade.

Same. efuses are quite handy to counter hacking, when used right. The 360 showed that much.

 

[Kioku]

Efuses..... Great.... I'm having visions of endless threads where people bricked their switch trying to downgrade.

It'll happen. It doesn't matter what type.. Some overhyped weirdos will bite the bullet and brick their systems. It always happens.

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

inb4 hacks and homebrew in a month

 

[smileyhead]

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that's a... surprisingly low amount, actually.

 

[Judas18]

Well, i don't like Piracy so early in console Life. But i want a Nintendo Swicht but it's so expensive here Brazil. And if i paid for console I'll no have money for any game

You could always do what I did, I bought the Switch in the UK and sent it to my boyfriend in Brazil and had to pay £320 in taxes. I could've cried.

 

[BlastedGuy9905]

Nintendo Switch: The next multimedia, emulation and gameplay portable and hybrid system. Talk about fast and amazing.