Why do so many people hate Windows 10?

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Update nags, forced updates/upgrades, Issues arriving from said updates, shite start menu (<3 classicshell), file association resetting, firewall pop up resetting. All in all it isn't too bad compared to 7. But microsoft really forced it down everyone's throat which is why people dislike it.
 
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The only downside I found was there was that some games are so slow or don't even want to start because Windows 10 makes it so my "graphics card needs updating", which on Windows 7 never said that.
 
As a technician I hate the current model of the OS, it's half legacy and half current when it comes to the back-end.

Stuff in control panel still gives more resource info, but the default "modern" go-to sections for devices, system info, etc is very slim with little to no properties or device information which is tedious if you're trying to install your own driver because windows failed at finding a suitable one.

It feels like parts of a person painfully grafted into a machine in a way that renders the person part inoperable.

Not to mention the alarming amount of phone-home it does that I have to run DWS10 to remove, so it runs efficiently on systems it already should be running efficiently on.

Incredibly shady.
 
(Also, no operating system should come with adverts enabled by default.)
The OS doesn't come with ads. The setting you're thinking of is "personalized ads", which only affects ad-supported Windows Store apps.
The only thing I dislike about the Windows Update method is the fact that updates are installed when shutting down the computer. We occasionally have power outages here, and I have purchased a UPS to protect against such outages. If we have a power outage at the same time some updates need to be installed, what happens then? I just have to watch the updates being applied until the UPS runs out, all the time the computer stares at me and smugly tells me "Do not turn off the power while updates are being applied"...
I recommend enabling hybernate. It's like shutting down, except the entire system state is preserved.
Update nags, forced updates/upgrades, Issues arriving from said updates, shite start menu (<3 classicshell), file association resetting, firewall pop up resetting. All in all it isn't too bad compared to 7. But microsoft really forced it down everyone's throat which is why people dislike it.
As a Windows 10 user, I very much dislike how it handles updates. It automatically restarts the computer when it's in the middle of doing things when you're away from it. I disabled automatic updates via group policy, but the "Updates are available" nag is still so intrusive, it can derail presentations with Powerpoint or Google Slides.
 
For me Windows 10 is better than 7 and the compatibility improved after the upgrade, too. So yeah, those that have an issue with Windows 10 are usually extremely worried about their privacy even though they probably use Twitter, Facebook, Google, Instagram, Amazon, eBay and all that.
 
The forced updates are probably the only thing that ticks me off at this point, all the other annoyances i disabled from group policy. Tried everything I could yet they always occur. There was this on time when my laptop was on low charge and i left the charger at a friends place so i closed the lid and went to go get it. Came back like 20 minutes later and the system partition was corrupted due to turning off in a forced update. (yes i did have reboots turned off for sleep mode).
 
Never seen any ads on Windows 10, aside from the Start Button and that Xbox UI-like menu.
Not quite sure why you felt you had to mention that? i specifically said it was disableable and uncommon. It's not surprising at all that you haven't had them. Most people haven't.
 
I really don't understand, I have used it for about 6 months and haven't really ran in to any major issues. So what's the deal?

  • Excessive Telemetry, I refuse to allow my hardware to be their store front/walled garden and pay them for it.
  • Forced updates with no permission required, again I own my hardware not Microsoft.
  • There is 0 reason to update to 10, does not offer me a single feature that I don't have on 7.
  • All performance benchmarks demonstrate they are virtually identical.

Microsoft's only relevancy is due to monopoly, they do not make money by creating new experiences and improving products they make their money by restricting and monetizing features my hardware is already capable of and were previously available.

Dislike for Microsoft is not irrational, they do not design their OS with customers interest in mind. They design their OS to protect corporate interests by restricting features/access and charging the end user for the "privilege".

If I pay for an OS I expect my interests and usability to be at the forefront, not creating a locked down ecosphere for one of their partners software. It's like police charging you for your own handcuffs.

Unless MS successfully cut enough checks to kill VulkanAPI their jig will be up in the next decade, gaming/graphical applications is the only foothold that maintains their monopoly. Steam and Vulkan are making solid in roads of breaking that up.
 
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Okay, a few thing. One, I don't per se hate Windows 10. I do, however, overall dislike Windows: from the ways MS hides important information*, to the hassle of "genuine" Windows, to just generally grown away from using the Windows UI.

Having said that, two, I do particularly dislike Windows 10. The comparison to Android is pretty apt except that Google's spying is tied to Google Play and ilk. I can, if I choose, buy a phone or tablet without Google Play or otherwise buy a device that's rootable (not always trivial and might cost more for such a model) and overcome any spying that is built-in. The discussion about Ubuntu is in the same vein, although you can use Xubuntu or the like and basically avoid that whole debacle--if you're really paranoid, you can change all the update servers or simply not update at all to avoid even sending that information to Ubuntu or one of the mirrors. As much as there's some effort to include some degree of monitoring to sell ads or get a cut of search results that leads to ads, the actual parts that do this are well contained and the parts around it or even those parts are open source.

Compare this to Microsoft which is closed source throughout and has repeatedly pushed for the update of Windows 10, again pushes repeatedly to "try" their new apps in Windows 10, and send telemetry data to hardcoded ip addresses (that may be able to bypass the firewall--it's unclear if that's true or fear mongering). Sure, with enough effort you can block a lot of this stuff if not all of it, but you'll never be 100% sure and each update can bring more spying or revert changes while making it seem the data sending is being blocked. In the end, if you at all care about it, you're spending considerable effort trying to cat and mouse your OS just to avoid the vague spying Microsoft does, no matter how innocuous it all is**.

So, yea, I use Windows 10 on a separate system. And I have an Android tablet and TV dongle. I don't do serious work with them. I limit their access to any useful, personal information. I generally treat them as toys that could be spying on me. I definitely don't like that.

* Cloned a Windows 7 HDD to SSD, made the SSD online to verify the clone, and Disk Management secretly overwrote the SSD's unique disk signature (because Windows doesn't support multiple drives with the same signature) which made Windows unbootable. It turned out to be not too hard to fix with diskpart, but the simple fact that it was very opaque (and I had to temporarily disconnect the HDD to finally get Windows to boot the SSD, which also made no sense) wasted many several hours trying to figure out why something so simple would fail.

** Do we even have to begin to go into that (1) plenty of studies have shown that with only a few pieces of anonymized data it's often possible to identify the person behind that data or (2) that "Microsoft" per se might care about your furry habits but "Microsoft employee(s)" might in much the same way the NSA employees did? That's the reason even innocuous spying creeps me out.
 
Don't see this happening for the majority of its userbase but I might just :switch: to use Android OS as my desktop system over a Linux distro.

I'll be moving to Linux, Jumping from Microsoft to google is getting out of the frying pan and rolling around in the fire.

MS will probably still do well in enterprise apps but IMO the only thing stopping gamers, media hounds and the technically inclined home user from making the jump to Linux is DirectX and gaming support. When steam & Vulkan break that up, there is zero reason to stay and a yearly "OS as a service" reason to leave.
 
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I'll be moving to Linux, Jumping from Microsoft to google is getting out of the frying pan and rolling around in the fire.
My prob with Linux is that the apps I use on Windows aren't on Linux distros too so it feels limited to make it feel at home. Elementary OS was my favourite but only due to the UI (Apple-fied).
 
My prob with Linux is that the apps I use on Windows aren't on Linux distros too so it feels limited to make it feel at home. Elementary OS was my favourite but only due to the UI (Apple-fied).

I'm ham-stringed myself as far as apps I like, only reason I am still on Win7. It's an opinion but when Linux gaming support starts gaining parity with Microsoft native linux support for popular apps will blow up.

Anbox already adds native android app support on Linux, and it's not shitty virtual box emulation like WINE is. It works %100 in my experience.
 
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The OS doesn't come with ads. The setting you're thinking of is "personalized ads", which only affects ad-supported Windows Store apps.

I recommend enabling hybernate. It's like shutting down, except the entire system state is preserved.

As a Windows 10 user, I very much dislike how it handles updates. It automatically restarts the computer when it's in the middle of doing things when you're away from it. I disabled automatic updates via group policy, but the "Updates are available" nag is still so intrusive, it can derail presentations with Powerpoint or Google Slides.
Windows 10 Home is a pain with updates. Thankfully, thanks to the university I attend, I have Education on my desktop, which is basically Enterprise, and also Pro on my Surface. Oh well. I never boot Windows 10 on the laptop that has Home anyway. Linux master race <3

Sent from my cave of despair where I collect souls
 
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On the non-specialized enterprise edition:

  • constant spying, not matter what you turn off, for which the options are hidden anyway and get turned back on with forced upgrades.
  • forced upgrades when you're working that still force a reboot
  • forced upgrades that break the OS, apps and partitions, including other OSs
  • forced upgrades that make hardware stop working
  • tons of untested upgrades which compound the above
  • forced upgrades that use all your bandwidth on metered connections unless you know how to stop the problem
  • absolutely crap start menu and control panel
  • fisher price looking ui no longer optional
  • it's more opaque than ever to figure out what the fuck it's doing, and I have no patience anymore. yesterday my sister couldn't access the documents in her account because... who the fuck knows, not even google.

The good parts:
  • made me finally fully switch to Linux except for a literal couple of games
 
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