Hacking Backup DS VC to the cloud

[easyonme]

Hello,

I hope some of the gurus here have an answer for this. Apparently there's a procedure for this posted in the Tutorials section, on this thread. I already wrote there, but received no answer. My question, as I already stated it in the linked post, is whether or not a backup can be restored on a fresh, formatted WiiU. The only reason I want to make a back is if one day my NNID gets banned from eshop and/or N removes the DS game I use for Haxchi and/or removes VC DS games all together and/or WiiU network services get cut off like it happened for the Wii.

The backup procedure make you extract a .tik file from your purchase that's unique to your account, so if any of the above occur, how do you link your WiiU to your account thus legitimizing the purchase?

Cheers,

 

[Deleted User]

Dump .tiks using tik2sd and replace illegitimate DS VC .tik with one you just dumped.
Keep in mind that one .tik file can include multiple .tiks

So far, this seems to be a way because ddd dumps incomplete game dumps.
Banned NNID still has access to it's own .tiks and accounts, you're only banned from Nintendo Servers.

 

[easyonme]

Dump .tiks using tik2sd and replace illegitimate DS VC .tik with one you just dumped.
Keep in mind that one .tik file can include multiple .tiks

So far, this seems to be a way because ddd dumps incomplete game dumps.
Banned NNID still has access to it's own .tiks and accounts, you're only banned from Nintendo Servers.

Thanks for your reply, felek666!

So basically you are saying that even when an account is banned (from eshop), one can still create on the WiiU a user with said banned account credentials and be able to link it. The E-shop uses servers that are different from NNID authentication ones? Seems weird, even if so, that they would not cross-reference the two. I mean, even if they let you login into your WiiU but not in the Eshop, what good would that do to anyone (including N), if they wouldn't let you redownload or buy content.

Obviously I'm not fighting what you are saying :-P just want to make sure I understand your reply correctly!

Cheers,

 

[Deleted User]

Thanks for your reply, felek666!

So basically you are saying that even when an account is banned (from eshop), one can still create on the WiiU a user with said banned account credentials and be able to link it. The E-shop uses servers that are different from NNID authentication ones? Seems weird, even if so, that they would not cross-reference the two. I mean, even if they let you login into your WiiU but not in the Eshop, what good would that do to anyone (including N), if they wouldn't let you redownload or buy content.

Obviously I'm not fighting what you are saying :-P just want to make sure I understand your reply correctly!

Cheers,

If you got console banned from eShop [Stolen download-code, eShop cards, fake cc purchase] then even creating a new account can't let you bypass that ban.
If you have DS VC installed on your system, you already have legit .tik [If it was from eShop] for it so you can bypass it. You can use NUS grabbers like Wii U USB Helper to download that DS VC game and replace it's fake signed .tik with one from tik2SD.
[You will now have legitimate DS VC game backup, meaning no need to try to visit eShop]

No, linking another user with same NNID will not unban you from eShop. You can create another one and see if you can access it. If you can't, then probably you got yourself CB'ed.
You can login to your NNID and use your games, ban from Nintendo can't delete your games and other stuff. It just locks you out of multiplayer games and NNID-related stuff.

If that's what you meant.

 

[easyonme]

If you got console banned from eShop [Stolen download-code, eShop cards, fake cc purchase] then even creating a new account can't let you bypass that ban.
If you have DS VC installed on your system, you already have legit .tik [If it was from eShop] for it so you can bypass it. You can use NUS grabbers like Wii U USB Helper to download that DS VC game and replace it's fake signed .tik with one from tik2SD.
[You will now have legitimate DS VC game backup, meaning no need to try to visit eShop]

No, linking another user with same NNID will not unban you from eShop. You can create another one and see if you can access it. If you can't, then probably you got yourself CB'ed.
You can login to your NNID and use your games, ban from Nintendo can't delete your games and other stuff. It just locks you out of multiplayer games and NNID-related stuff.

If that's what you meant.

Thanks again for your prompt reply!

So, right now I don't have a NNID, let alone a banned on. Essentially, what I'm asking is:

DAY 1: I create a NNID, buy the DS VC game, back it up properly and save it to the cloud.
DAY 2: My NNID gets banned (for whatever reason, I can't even imagine) AND my WiiU explodes (surely a tough day :-P)!
DAY 3: I buy another WiiU, retrieve my backup from the cloud and try to restore it.

Would I be successful with the restoration attempt on DAY 3 (bearing in mind that restoration would occur on a different WiiU)?

Cheers,

 

[Deleted User]

Thanks again for your prompt reply!

So, right now I don't have a NNID, let alone a banned on. Essentially, what I'm asking is:

DAY 1: I create a NNID, buy the DS VC game, back it up properly and save it to the cloud.
DAY 2: My NNID gets banned (for whatever reason, I can't even imagine) AND my WiiU explodes (surely a tough day :-P)!
DAY 3: I buy another WiiU, retrieve my backup from the cloud and try to restore it.

Would I be successful with the restoration attempt on DAY 3 (bearing in mind that restoration would occur on a different WiiU)?

Cheers,

Oh noticed what you meant, that should work without problems i think? I'm unsure if you still would need to link NNID associated with that game, probably.
If you backed up like i said before, you just need to install it with Wup Installer Y mod.

 

[xtreemsurf]

Oh noticed what you meant, that should work without problems i think? I'm unsure if you still would need to link NNID associated with that game, probably.
If you backed up like i said before, you just need to install it with Wup Installer Y mod.

If you use tik2sd to dump the tiks from a purchased DS, does this allow you to install your legit DS game to another Wii U console...or only back to the original console from which the tiks files were dumped?

I just purchased a second Wii U to have as a backup and I'm wondering if there is a way to install the legit DS game there for Haxchi...or I will need to repurchase it on the new Wii U. Thanks for any input!

 

[Deleted User]

If you use tik2sd to dump the tiks from a purchased DS, does this allow you to install your legit DS game to another Wii U console...or only back to the original console from which the tiks files were dumped?

I just purchased a second Wii U to have as a backup and I'm wondering if there is a way to install the legit DS game there for Haxchi...or I will need to repurchase it on the new Wii U. Thanks for any input!

Hm.. i only think it will work on the original console but you can try to install it to another console then report it back here if it works.
If it does then i guess, people should use this method.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Thanks again for your prompt reply!

So, right now I don't have a NNID, let alone a banned on. Essentially, what I'm asking is:

DAY 1: I create a NNID, buy the DS VC game, back it up properly and save it to the cloud.
DAY 2: My NNID gets banned (for whatever reason, I can't even imagine) AND my WiiU explodes (surely a tough day :-P)!
DAY 3: I buy another WiiU, retrieve my backup from the cloud and try to restore it.

Would I be successful with the restoration attempt on DAY 3 (bearing in mind that restoration would occur on a different WiiU)?

Cheers,

You won't be able to link the NNID to another Wii U without performing a full system transfer. So most likely the legit DS VC won't work without doing so either.

 

[easyonme]

You won't be able to link the NNID to another Wii U without performing a full system transfer. So most likely the legit DS VC won't work without doing so either.

Thanks to all of you for chiming in!

So to sum up, because N allows a NNID to be linked only with one WiiU, and the only way to link a second unit is to unlink the first one through the mean of a system transfer, if the first unit has exploded like in my example, or bricked and or inaccessible at any rate, it will take with it account and any purchases associated with it?

N maybe will transfer the link to a second unit, but would they do that if the account in question was a banned one?

And when N phases out the WiiU for good (on the software side too), like it did for the Wii what happens? From this discussion it would appear that legitimately or not, there won't be a way to put the DS VC for Haxchi on a WiiU that didn't already have it before. In other words, there is NO WAY to future proof the hack for posterity (since the backup can only be restored on the unit it came from or one that it has been transfered to before hardware failure)?

Cheers

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Thanks to all of you for chiming in!

So to sum up, because N allows a NNID to be linked only with one WiiU, and the only way to link a second unit is to unlink the first one through the mean of a system transfer, if the first unit has exploded like in my example, or bricked and or inaccessible at any rate, it will take with it account and any purchases associated with it?

N maybe will transfer the link to a second unit, but would they do that if the account in question was a banned one?

And when N phases out the WiiU for good (on the software side too), like it did for the Wii what happens? From this discussion it would appear that legitimately or not, there won't be a way to put the DS VC for Haxchi on a WiiU that didn't already have it before. In other words, there is NO WAY to future proof the hack for posterity (since the backup can only be restored on the unit it came from or one that it has been transfered to before hardware failure)?

Cheers

They may still help you transfer the account if you have purchased content on it. But I don't think anyone's tried to contact them to get a banned NNID transferred to another console, and it would be kind of foolish as they would no doubt see that your account is banned. No way to know for sure without trying though.

 

[xtreemsurf]

Hm.. i only think it will work on the original console but you can try to install it to another console then report it back here if it works.
If it does then i guess, people should use this method.

That's what I was thinking...without the NNID linked on the second console, I think I would need to run CFW first, which won't work for the Haxchi DS title. I think I'll just create a new NNID for the second console and buy the DS title again.

 

[easyonme]

They may still help you transfer the account if you have purchased content on it. But I don't think anyone's tried to contact them to get a banned NNID transferred to another console, and it would be kind of foolish as they would no doubt see that your account is banned. No way to know for sure without trying though.

That's what I'm thinking too, especially since for them it would be really unnecessary work given that at the same time they would not allow the account to purchase or redownload; so effectively one would be requesting to get the recipient of the system transfer to be a locked out device. lol

Hence, presently, the only reason to have a backup of your DS VC for Haxchi is in case your account gets subsequently banned but you still have the unit linked to the banned account in working order AND not formatted (post-ban). And at same time, everything falls apart when N completely pulls the plug on the WiiU like it did for the Wii (and the DS, as I gathered, starting April 1st).

Hopefully a real way to future proof Haxchi will be found before that happens.

Thank you and everyone else that joined and contributed to the conversation!

Cheers,