Hacking Games start but do not load

[Pilzkopf777]

Hello there.
First of all I hope this is the correct place to ask. If not, please move this thread.

I own retail copies and use the Backup Manager to move them on a NTFS-Drive so I could play them with USB Loader GX (or any USB loader for that matter).
When starting any game nothing unusual happens. Safety instructions show up normally.
However, the game simply doesn't load. Games like Mario Pary 9 even have a screen telling you that the game is loading files - nothing happens though. It simply loads on for eternity.
Does anyone have an idea why this happens and how to fix it?

SysCheck (I have no idea why it's in German):

Spoiler

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition von JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, und Nano
...laeuft auf dem IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
Systemmenue 4.1E (v450)

Laufwerksdatum: 13.02.2007
Homebrewkanal 1.1.2 benutzt IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Konsolen-ID: 110461938
Konsolentyp: Wii
Shop-Kanal-Land: Germany (78)
Boot2 v4
Es wurden 121 Titel gefunden.
Es wurden 54 IOS gefunden, von denen 5 funktionslos (Stub) sind.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Funktionslos (Stub)
IOS9 (rev 1034): Keine Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Funktionslos (Stub)
IOS11[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS12 (rev 526): Keine Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): Keine Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): Keine Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): Keine Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Funktionslos (Stub)
IOS17 (rev 1032): Keine Patches
IOS20[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS21 (rev 1039): Keine Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): Keine Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): Keine Patches
IOS30[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3608): Keine Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): Keine Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): Keine Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): Keine Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Zugriff
IOS37 (rev 5663): Keine Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): Keine Patches
IOS40[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS41 (rev 3607): Keine Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): Keine Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): Keine Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): Keine Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): Keine Patches
IOS50[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Funktionslos (Stub)
IOS52 (rev 5888): Funktionslos (Stub)
IOS53 (rev 5663): Keine Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): Keine Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): Keine Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): Keine Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5662): Keine Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): Keine Patches
IOS70[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS80[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS223[37] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Zugriff
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Zugriff
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Bericht wurde am 11.06.2016 generiert.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Hello there.
First of all I hope this is the correct place to ask. If not, please move this thread.

I own retail copies and use the Backup Manager to move them on a NTFS-Drive so I could play them with USB Loader GX (or any USB loader for that matter).
When starting any game nothing unusual happens. Safety instructions show up normally.
However, the game simply doesn't load. Games like Mario Pary 9 even have a screen telling you that the game is loading files - nothing happens though. It simply loads on for eternity.
Does anyone have an idea why this happens and how to fix it?

SysCheck (I have no idea why it's in German):

Spoiler

SysCheck HDE v2.4.0 HacksDen Edition von JoostinOnline, Double_A, R2-D2199, und Nano
...laeuft auf dem IOS58 (rev 6176).

Region: PAL
Systemmenue 4.1E (v450)

Laufwerksdatum: 13.02.2007
Homebrewkanal 1.1.2 benutzt IOS58

Hollywood v0x11
Konsolen-ID: 110461938
Konsolentyp: Wii
Shop-Kanal-Land: Germany (78)
Boot2 v4
Es wurden 121 Titel gefunden.
Es wurden 54 IOS gefunden, von denen 5 funktionslos (Stub) sind.

IOS4 (rev 65280): Funktionslos (Stub)
IOS9 (rev 1034): Keine Patches
IOS10 (rev 768): Funktionslos (Stub)
IOS11[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS12 (rev 526): Keine Patches
IOS13 (rev 1032): Keine Patches
IOS14 (rev 1032): Keine Patches
IOS15 (rev 1032): Keine Patches
IOS16 (rev 512): Funktionslos (Stub)
IOS17 (rev 1032): Keine Patches
IOS20[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS21 (rev 1039): Keine Patches
IOS22 (rev 1294): Keine Patches
IOS28 (rev 1807): Keine Patches
IOS30[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS31 (rev 3608): Keine Patches
IOS33 (rev 3608): Keine Patches
IOS34 (rev 3608): Keine Patches
IOS35 (rev 3608): Keine Patches
IOS36 (rev 3608, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Zugriff
IOS37 (rev 5663): Keine Patches
IOS38 (rev 4124): Keine Patches
IOS40[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS41 (rev 3607): Keine Patches
IOS43 (rev 3607): Keine Patches
IOS45 (rev 3607): Keine Patches
IOS46 (rev 3607): Keine Patches
IOS48 (rev 4124): Keine Patches
IOS50[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS51 (rev 4864): Funktionslos (Stub)
IOS52 (rev 5888): Funktionslos (Stub)
IOS53 (rev 5663): Keine Patches
IOS55 (rev 5663): Keine Patches
IOS56 (rev 5662): Keine Patches
IOS57 (rev 5919): Keine Patches
IOS58 (rev 6176): USB 2.0
IOS60 (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS61 (rev 5662): Keine Patches
IOS62 (rev 6430): Keine Patches
IOS70[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS80[60] (rev 65535, Info: rev 6174): Trucha Bug
IOS202[60] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS222[38] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS223[37] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS224[57] (rev 65535, Info: hermes-v5.1): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS236[36] (rev 65535, Info: rev 3351): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Zugriff
IOS245[37] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS246[38] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, ES Identify, NAND Zugriff
IOS247[53] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS248[55] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS249[56] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS250[57] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS251[58] (rev 21008, Info: d2x-v8final): Trucha Bug, NAND Zugriff, USB 2.0
IOS254 (rev 65281): BootMii
BC v6
MIOS v10
Bericht wurde am 11.06.2016 generiert.

Try with IOS249 and IOS250, most games work with IOS249 but some need IOS250. There are one or two shovelware games that require IOS251 but you most likely will not need it. IOS249 should be set as the default. 202/222-224 are old and you shouldn't need them, Hermes cIOS is no longer being developed.

 

[Pilzkopf777]

Thanks for answering!
Using IOS249 or IOS250 doesn't seem to do anything. The games still don't seem to load correctly. Mario Party 9 doesn't even get to the safety instructions anymore (after clicking play it fades to black).

 

[Pilzkopf777]

Not a fan of pushing but I'm really clueless. Does anyone have an idea?

 

[GreyWolf]

What kind of drive is it? Does it have its own power or is it USB-powered? Bus-powered drives should come with a Y-cable that needs to have both plugs connected.

 

[Pilzkopf777]

It's a USB 2.0 Drive from Hitachi. There's seems to be no problem with the connection as I can play my GCN backups (on a second partition) with ease.

 

[Cyan]

usually it's just backscreen but it doesn't hurt to verify :
Check that your game's ISO (or wbfs) are not write protected. That's a cause of issue, I don't know why as it doesn't need to write anything to the iso.

That's all I can think of for the moment, but I might come back later when I have more ideas.

 

[Pilzkopf777]

The WBFS-files are not write protected. However, thank you all for your assistance and advice.

 

[Pilzkopf777]

EDIT:

Well, for some reason it works now.
I'm okay with that.

 

[Cyan]

did you try another devices ? a different hdd, or sometime even a different USB cable (I know it looks silly, but it helped few users). edit : looks like it was that issue again

Did you try to reset USBLoaderGX settings and/or reinstall a clean version ? (delete or rename the current folder for backup and put only boot.dol, icon and meta in a new apps/usbloader_gx/ folder)

like I said above, when there's an issue it's usually not booting at all, blackscreen or reboot. You said you see the game screen, it just stay on loading screen, which is a strange behavior.
I don't have new ideas, sorry.

 

[Pilzkopf777]

Bus-powered drives should come with a Y-cable that needs to have both plugs connected.

As it turns out the Y-cable of my HHD was broken. GCN games seem to run fine when using only one cable but the Wii games need both cables to be plugged in.
I just fixed the second cable, popped them both in, started the game - and it works!
Thanks for all the help on the issue!