Hacking Pasta CFW - A CFW that allows unsigned CIA to be installed on Old and New 3DS! (required ninjhax)

[motezazer]

which the prerequisite of having CN and HBL kinda discounts as the main purpose.......i think its kinda pointless trying to doll pasta up as anything more than it is

purpose != use

 

[gamesquest1]

purpose != use

look, personally im not bothered, im just saying if you make a bazooka and say oh people can use this to open their cans of soup....its kinda hard to play the "oh what seriously ...people arent just opening soup with my bazooka tin openers ......in fact probably only 2% of my customers are using it for such a purpose, well man....im shocked"

 

[shinyquagsire23]

When you watch #3dsdev, you learn every day...
For example, this day, I learned that Pasta CFW main purpose is piracy.
Me and the other devs didn't create that CFW for piracy, but obviously we were wrong.
Of course we do know that the main use of Pasta is piracy (sadly), but I thought we didn't create the CFW for piracy.
I did learn that other people know better than ourselves why we do things.



Of course that's irony for those who didn't understand.

Realistically the only use of breaking sig checks is piracy, the amount of other use cases is extremely minor at the current time. I mean, look at the AGB_FIRM thread, now everyone is pirating (or not pirating, some people make their own backups and I respect that) GBA games to run on their 3DS. Everyone keeps asking why their Smash isn't working on their old3DS (because they pirated it), everyone keeps complaining about not being able to run Xenoblade. The main reason 3dsdev hates some of the pasta developers is because they read what you say, you might say you say one thing but really say another. They also don't appreciate people who beg for information and then badmouth them when you obtain what they want. As long as you go into 3dsdev respectfully and don't beg or badmouth outside of 3dsdev you're pretty much OK.

 

[Deleted User]

I'm not kidding to myself.
But what I reproach to "pasta's main purpose is piracy" that I read in #3dsdev is the word purpose.
WE DID NOT CREATE PASTA FOR PIRACY. ONCE FOR ALL.


"pasta devs aren't welcome because pasta's main purpose is piracy"

One thing I don't understand is.... why? If they were going to create a CFW and release it, just what could they have done to allow homebrew with blacklisting Roms? Can't be done, atleast I don't think it could be done. Opening one up means allowing it all.

 

[capito27]

welp, @Roxas75 would strongly disagree with you ^^

 

[motezazer]

One thing I don't understand is.... why? If they were going to create a CFW and release it, just what could they have done to allow homebrew with blacklisting Roms? Can't be done, atleast I don't think it could be done. Opening one up means allowing it all.

Our goal was "unlock the 3DS".
Nothing more. Nothing less.
When emuNAND will be finished, it will allow to change region without having a SecureInfoA donor.
There ARE legitimate uses of Pasta.

Realistically the only use of breaking sig checks is piracy, the amount of other use cases is extremely minor at the current time. I mean, look at the AGB_FIRM thread, now everyone is pirating (or not pirating, some people make their own backups and I respect that) GBA games to run on their 3DS. Everyone keeps asking why their Smash isn't working on their old3DS (because they pirated it), everyone keeps complaining about not being able to run Xenoblade. The main reason 3dsdev hates some of the pasta developers is because they read what you say, you might say you say one thing but really say another. They also don't appreciate people who beg for information and then badmouth them when you obtain what they want. As long as you go into 3dsdev respectfully and don't beg or badmouth outside of 3dsdev you're pretty much OK.

Pasta devs are not welcome in #3dsdev. Whatever you want to do. It's stated in the topic. Because I AM a pasta dev, I can't go in #3dsdev.

 

[gamesquest1]

welp, @Roxas75 would strongly disagree with you ^^

as would cell09 who made NTR which has a very good and useful feature set all without enabling any sort of piracy (maybe with the exception of gameboy roms if you use layeredFS)....but again i can't express this enough, i genuinely don't care what people do/make/release thats upto them, but we all know what the main use of pasta is

 

[shinyquagsire23]

Our goal was "unlock the 3DS".
Nothing more. Nothing less.
When emuNAND will be finished, it will allow to change region without having a SecureInfoA donor.
There ARE legitimate uses of Pasta.


Pasta devs are not welcome in #3dsdev. Whatever you want to do. It's stated in the topic. Because I AM a pasta dev, I can't go in #3dsdev.

At time I checked it isn't in the topic. I think neimod got de-OP'd over too much banning though, as long as you aren't a dick about being in there you should be fine tbh.

EDIT: kk it's there, they're free to do what they want so whatever. Freenode #3dsdev is still a thing though, you can go be a rebel over there.

 

[capito27]

as would cell09 who made NTR which has a very good and useful feature set all without enabling any sort of piracy (maybe with the exception of gameboy roms if you use layeredFS)....but again i can't express this enough, i genuinely don't care what people do/make/release thats upto them, but we all know what the main use of pasta is

well, my point is that Roxas75 found a way to disable sig checks without allowing ROMS to run ^^ NTR doesn't (AFAIK)

 

[motezazer]

At time I checked it isn't in the topic. I think neimod got de-OP'd over too much banning though, as long as you aren't a dick about being in there you should be fine tbh.

"Now talking in #3dsdev
* Topic is 'Welcome to #3DSdev! No warez (including flashcard talk)/sdk/leaks, kthx | italians welcome again, pasta devs not | offtopic: #3dsdev-ot | ninjhax still blocked'
* Set by neimoood![email protected] on Sat May 23 19:02:21 2015"

Recently (less than a hour) :
"<LiNe1> Hey guys!
<LiNe1> Can I ask why italians before was blocked and pasta devs are not welcome here?
<Vappy> pasta devs aren't welcome because pasta's main purpose is piracy"

 

[Deleted User]

Our goal was "unlock the 3DS".
Nothing more. Nothing less.
When emuNAND will be finished, it will allow to change region without having a SecureInfoA donor.
There ARE legitimate uses of Pasta.

Don't get me wrong, I love watching what you guys are doing, unlocking a system is something that I love seeing happen! Ever since I was a kid, hacking was something I was always interested in, but never had the time nor patience to learn the skills! If I could, I easily jump in aswell XD

Its down to the end user to decide what happens with the unlock. Your nobodies mother, you do what you love guys!

 

[capito27]

At time I checked it isn't in the topic. I think neimod got de-OP'd over too much banning though, as long as you aren't a dick about being in there you should be fine tbh.

just checked right now :

Topic is 'Welcome to #3DSdev! No warez (including flashcard talk)/sdk/leaks, kthx | italians welcome again, pasta devs not | offtopic: #3dsdev-ot | ninjhax still blocked'

 

[Lightning ThB]

Oh please, can we just recognize that people from #3dsbrew are only butthurt because someone publicized what they've got going for ages?

There's no such thing as "we're against piracy" there. There are only devs that like to have their egos massaged as they release only droplets of what they have access to.

PastaCFW is community-made and OpenSource. That's what really piss them off. It's out and going, and not only within their inner circle.

We've seen piracy on DS quite soon, and the console was still successful, with lots of games. What has piracy given people? Loads of great homebrew apps. And, in DS's case, the main purpose was indeed piracy.

And IF Nintendo cared about blocking piracy they would have done something about Sky3DS, but they're even unbanning people who use that to play online not to lose costumers.

 

[Vappy]

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Fwiw, my saying "pasta's main purpose is piracy" was just a reflection of the general opinion of those in #3dsdev and answering the question of why it was banned, I didn't mean to speak for you or the other project devs.

 

[happydance]

I don't know about you guys, but when pasta was released, I thought things progress a bit faster on 3ds development and others are wiling to contribute and share codes and other tried different approach on spider exploits and mset exploit.

and whatever you guys accomplish will help the scene one way or the other from what you learned in creating this, whether they deny this or not.

 

[Deleted-355425]

The first rule of #3dsdev is you don't talk about #3dsdev

 

[Psi-hate]

Fwiw, my saying "pasta's main purpose is piracy" was just a reflection of the general opinion of those in #3dsdev and answering the question of why it was banned, I didn't mean to speak for you or the other project devs.

I was the one who had found the paste/instructions for the whole thing. Would that make me a contributor? I'd like to be a part of #3dsdev as I'm learning C and would definitely would like some pointers and help on making 3DS homebrew, but I'm not entirely sure that "Posting the paste for the public to see" counts as being a dev for Pasta. I truly appreciate Pasta and what it may bring in the future as I wait for KARL, but if there is some sort of prejudice towards these devs, then I dunno whether I'd rather be with the Prejudice Devs or the Pasta Devs.

 

[Xenon Hacks]

@motezazer Dude screw the **** wavers you do you! At the end of the day there's 5 names that will live in infamy in the 3DS scene to me you're my Dark Alex. Keep up the good work ill try to donate on my next payday

 

[nop90]

Whaaaaat? There is the risk that I can't join 3dsdev? How can I live now,,,

 

[williamcesar2]

I do not give a shit about what the # 3dsdev devs think! if I use it for homebrew it's my problem if I use it for piracy it's my problem!
they just wanted to keep people on their claws and mocked of peoples like that: do you want a CFW? '' Do it yourself '' ''I have it you don't''