Hacking [WIP] KARL3DS - Kernel access on N3DS via Ninjhax + Loadcode

[cearp]

Presumably, this would not allow access to the eshop though, correct?

i posted a little guide somewhere about how to get nnid working after you region change, i never tried it though. it should work i guess

 

[shinyquagsire23]

when we have nand decryption working on n3ds, you won't even need to do a system transfer, because you can just do it 'manually' yourself.
i'm not sure about system transferring to the same console serial... who will test first?

I'm actually going to be running a test with my old 3DS soon where I have two consoles with the same SecureInfo_A and movable.sed (and all that other jazz). Could I get banned? Maybe. Do I care? Not really, because they would only see my old 3DS serial and not my N3DS one.

 

[AdowTatep]

Hi Karl3DS crew!

Well, i was wondering if you guys can release a version JUST with the region free feature, anything more.

Because like me, i'm sure there's more people who bough the Japanese New 3DS, and have only the US Ocarina of Time. I, and i think other people too, doesn't care about system transfer now, it's a really good feature and i could transfer my e-shop original games but, i'm waiting so many time to use my new 3ds, and with the release of just the region free feature we could use the OOT on our new 3DS to finally trigger gatewait.

I know you guys are anti piracy, but you're just releasing the region free. Who is backuping games and letting this happen is me and gateway. So, i really with you can consider my message, and i'm sure a lot of people would wish it either. Thank you guys.

 

[shinyquagsire23]

Hi Karl3DS crew!

Well, i was wondering if you guys can release a version JUST with the region free feature, anything more.

Because like me, i'm sure there's more people who bough the Japanese New 3DS, and have only the US Ocarina of Time. I, and i think other people too, doesn't care about system transfer now, it's a really good feature and i could transfer my e-shop original games but, i'm waiting so many time to use my new 3ds, and with the release of just the region free feature we could use the OOT on our new 3DS to finally trigger gatewait.

I know you guys are anti piracy, but you're just releasing the region free. Who is backuping games and letting this happen is me and gateway. So, i really with you can consider my message, and i'm sure a lot of people would wish it either. Thank you guys.

Well the problem is that we'd need a game to boot into KARL anyhow, you you'll need JAP Cubic Ninja before you can even do anything. And even then, memchunkhax fails in our emuNAND/non-emuNAND mode so that would be a no go either.

 

[AdowTatep]

Well the problem is that we'd need a game to boot into KARL anyhow, you you'll need JAP Cubic Ninja before you can even do anything. And even then, memchunkhax fails in our emuNAND/non-emuNAND mode so that would be a no go either.

I see :/ Thanks for answering, and have a great job continuing the project!

 

[WulfyStylez]

I'm not trying to start any piracy flamewars but would it be possible to install SaveDataFiler? It would be neat to use other people's saves.

No, but it'll be possible to write and install an app to legally manage save files. All the stuff SDF does is still accessible, you'll just need a homebrew app to do it, a la Big Red Menu.

 

[sniperseyes]

So since all the news today, Ive completely lost track of what I need to have for when KARL 3DS comes out.
so far I have :
- N3DS JP 8.1 no browser
-JP OoT
-Cubic Ninja JP

Will I be able to preform this exploit when it is released?
Do I need to purchase any more games/SD cards?
Should I give up hope of ever playing my USA games on the N3DS?

Btw congrats on your progress so far guys, Ive been lurking on this thread since day 1 and IM astonished by how much you've all accomplished in such a short amount of time.

 

[shinyquagsire23]

So since all the news today, Ive completely lost track of what I need to have for when KARL 3DS comes out.
so far I have :
- N3DS JP 8.1 no browser
-JP OoT
-Cubic Ninja JP

Will I be able to preform this exploit when it is released?
Do I need to purchase any more games/SD cards?
Should I give up hope of ever playing my USA games on the N3DS?

Btw congrats on your progress so far guys, Ive been lurking on this thread since day 1 and IM astonished by how much you've all accomplished in such a short amount of time.

Yes, you definitely have the utilities to do it. On our side though we'll need to get a more refined CN/OoT exploit which avoid the web browser altogether. Myria might be working on that herself with libkhax, but we might need to do ourselves if needs be. I'm testing region changing at the moment, and I have a feeling we'll allow that at least in our release (although it allows some other somewhat nasty things, but I feel that it's best for now). You will most likely be able to play US games on it though.

 

[VinsCool]

Yes, you definitely have the utilities to do it. On our side though we'll need to get a more refined CN/OoT exploit which avoid the web browser altogether. Myria might be working on that herself with libkhax, but we might need to do ourselves if needs be.

What exactly is libkhax?

 

[WulfyStylez]

So since all the news today, Ive completely lost track of what I need to have for when KARL 3DS comes out.
so far I have :
- N3DS JP 8.1 no browser
-JP OoT
-Cubic Ninja JP

Will I be able to preform this exploit when it is released?
Do I need to purchase any more games/SD cards?
Should I give up hope of ever playing my USA games on the N3DS?

Btw congrats on your progress so far guys, Ive been lurking on this thread since day 1 and IM astonished by how much you've all accomplished in such a short amount of time.

If you have JP 8.1, you'll be running it through OOT once we port it over. That or when 9.2 games start coming out you could import one and use CN. You'll probably be able to region swap, or at the very least you'll be able to run imports fine.

Also Gateway's New 3DS support uses a different format than Old3DS emunand. We're looking into it and I'll be tweaking our stuff to account for that and maintain compatibility.

 

[sniperseyes]

If you have JP 8.1, you'll be running it through OOT once we port it over. That or when 9.2 games start coming out you could import one and use CN. You'll probably be able to region swap, or at the very least you'll be able to run imports fine.

Also Gateway's New 3DS support uses a different format than Old3DS emunand. We're looking into it and I'll be tweaking our stuff to account for that and maintain compatibility.

Thanks for clearing all that up. Ive been going crazy since I got this thing (the 3ds just makes me want to throw my 3dsXL in the trash and my ambassador 3ds into a pit of dark despair) Region swap sounds amazing . Would that need a donor 3ds? and would I be able to transfer my eshop titles to the n3ds if I were to do that? Also would it be permanent?

You guys are just the best!

 

[shinyquagsire23]

Thanks for clearing all that up. Ive been going crazy since I got this thing (the 3ds just makes me want to throw my 3dsXL in the trash and my ambassador 3ds into a pit of dark despair) Region swap sounds amazing . Would that need a donor 3ds? and would I be able to transfer my eshop titles to the n3ds if I were to do that? Also would it be permanent?

You guys are just the best!

For region swap, if you want a completely valid 3DS which can go on eShop/download updates from eShop/go online, you'll need a donor 3DS. I'm about to test what happens if you transfer an old 3DS ID to a New 3DS, while still using the old 3DS. If I get banned then it would be best to permanently offline your donor 3DS or somehow swap SecureInfo_A's. It's permanent to some extent, but only in emuNAND. I think it might be possible to do to sysNAND but I don't have a hardware mod to test that theory.

 

[cearp]

Also Gateway's New 3DS support uses a different format than Old3DS emunand. We're looking into it and I'll be tweaking our stuff to account for that and maintain compatibility.

what stuff is different in the new3ds emunand? (apart from it being different because it is new3ds nand lol)

 

[sniperseyes]

For region swap, if you want a completely valid 3DS which can go on eShop/download updates from eShop/go online, you'll need a donor 3DS. I'm about to test what happens if you transfer an old 3DS ID to a New 3DS, while still using the old 3DS. If I get banned then it would be best to permanently offline your donor 3DS or somehow swap SecureInfo_A's.

I see, I don't mind loosing online functionality on one of my old 3dses, I don't really play online anyway.
Basically if I do end up doing this, just don't use my old 3ds (that'll be EASY)
I'm not code savvy but if you guys need anything I'm around.

 

[WulfyStylez]

what stuff is different in the new3ds emunand? (apart from it being different because it is new3ds nand lol)

The physical layout of it would seem to be different. Not sure yet, we'll know in a short bit here.

 

[ShadowOne333]

What about bypassing the games system format on the donor 3DS by first creating a NAND backup, transfer stuff and then restore the NAND to get everything back?

I remember doing such process with my Wii/Wii U transfer and I got everything back in my original Wii.
Don't know how reliable/similar it could be on the 3DS family though.

 

[Ichii Giki]

If you have JP 8.1, you'll be running it through OOT once we port it over. That or when 9.2 games start coming out you could import one and use CN. You'll probably be able to region swap, or at the very least you'll be able to run imports fine.

Also Gateway's New 3DS support uses a different format than Old3DS emunand. We're looking into it and I'll be tweaking our stuff to account for that and maintain compatibility.

So if I'm understanding correctly, the Japanese copy of Cubic Ninja I ordered yesterday is useless for hacking purposes on my 8.1J New 3DS until Gateway releases their support for Cubic Ninja? Would you guys port over their method for Cubic Ninja with 8.1J as an entry point to KARL3DS when/if they release it?

Also curious, you mentioned a Japanese cartridge with 9.2 in the future to use Cubic Ninja. As I understood it, cartridge updates still don't update the browser, so does the problem with Cubic Ninja and 8.1J go beyond just having the browser to some other part of the system that is updated between 8.1 and 9.2?

I still praise your guys' work and look forward to the KARL3DS release, but my ultimate goal, like many others, has been a US (regular-sized) New 3DS. Since I got stuck with an 8.1J system when I ordered, I don't now look forward to having to shell out even more money on another hard to track down Japanese game when I had just recently purchased one I understood would (eventually) work...

 

[shinyquagsire23]

So if I'm understanding correctly, the Japanese copy of Cubic Ninja I ordered yesterday is useless for hacking purposes on my 8.1J New 3DS until Gateway releases their support for Cubic Ninja? Would you guys port over their method for Cubic Ninja with 8.1J as an entry point to KARL3DS when/if they release it?

Also curious, you mentioned a Japanese cartridge with 9.2 in the future to use Cubic Ninja. As I understood it, cartridge updates still don't update the browser, so does the problem with Cubic Ninja and 8.1J go beyond just having the browser to some other part of the system that is updated between 8.1 and 9.2?

I still praise your guys' work and look forward to the KARL3DS release, but my ultimate goal, like many others, has been a US (regular-sized) New 3DS. Since I got stuck with an 8.1J system when I ordered, I don't now look forward to having to shell out even more money on another hard to track down Japanese game when I had just recently purchased one I understood would (eventually) work...

We have plans some time in the future to support 8.1J from Cubic Ninja. And yes, cartridge updates don't have the browser, I think Wolfy forgot that.

 

[Katsumi San]

Yeah, but seems that they did spend time in writing it with proper grammer and stuff (hence makes sense by reading once).

It is quite strange how this 'teamwork' reminds me similar to a fansubbing team handles their fast release lol
(eg. Translator gives the script to Editor, then editor passes it for Typesetting, QC, etc
Translator = 'hacker/exploit finder/coder' in this case
Editor = 'obfuscator' maybe?
Typesetting, QC = 'polishing stuff' for release)

Lol Commie? Or perhaps UTW? Lol

 

[Ichii Giki]

We have plans some time in the future to support 8.1J from Cubic Ninja. And yes, cartridge updates don't have the browser, I think Wolfy forgot that.

Thanks for that information. I'll take "soon"/eventually over never for Cubic Ninja with 8.1J any day! In the mean time at least I can now try out some demos I've been meaning to download that will benefit from New 3DS XL controls...