Hacking 3DS XL with 7.X - what to do?

[TerminatR]

Hey guys,

I'm late to the party here - have a 3DS XL with 7.X firmware.

What should I do? I know Smash Bros 3DS will take it to 8.X. What about Pokemon Ruby/Saphire or NES Remix, do any of those contain 9.0 - 9.2?

There does become a point where this is all just a big pain in the ass

 

[zeromission80]

I'm in the same boat brother (Darunia says) got 8.1 with Gateway incoming and i'm not sure if i should buy an overpriced xl 4.5 from ebay or the retro xl from gamestop hoping it has 9.0-9.2

 

[Doran754]

None currently contain 9.0-9.2. Play smash, enjoy it and wait on 8.1 for news of gateway if you're waiting for them or you can buy the sky3ds card. I'd wait for gateway personally as it has more features cheaper and is better overall but that's upto you.

 

[alantgw]

First of all, what do you want to do with your planned upgrade?
If you are to make it 9.2 for GW, GW has said that 8.x fw will do good.

 

[zeromission80]

All speculation really but for now my 3ds is staying on 8.1 wifi is off, and i await my gateway card from yeahgeek

 

[zeromission80]

Nintendo isnt playing around this time after all they bombarded us with two new updates just like that, all i can say is backups or not MONSTER HUNTER 4 online will either force me to buy another 3ds or update mine so i can play it online, ive spent hundreds on legit carts so i like having em but all on one card is nice

 

[sj33]

Gateway are working on compatibility for pre-9.0 firmwares so wait for that. I wouldn't be surprised if the releases this Christmas come with 9.0-9.2 given manufacturing times mean they won't have 9.3. Wait and see.

Ninjhax (using Cubic Ninja) will work on 7.x right away if you fancy homebrew.

 

[TerminatR]

I wouldn't be surprised if the releases this Christmas come with 9.0-9.2 given manufacturing times mean they won't have 9.3. Wait and see.

What releases would those be though? I dont think theres anything else coming out this year. The new Pokemon games and NES Remix are all for this year (I think)

 

[dawnbomb]

i'm the one doing testing on the sky3ds card, and let me say its great. you can ad and delete games freely, just don't go over 10 at once. your free to change the 10 games with any others that you want. it works perfect on latest firmwares, and online, AND eshop, and is virtually unpatchable by nintendo.

if you go over 10 games at once wierd things start happening, but thats easy, just don't do it. not many micro sd cards can handle more then 10 anyway. soon i'm going to make a post will all my findings, just a few more things to test with regards to the scrolling bug (highly likly to be only when 10+ games), and something that might corrupt saves. (purpsely gonna see if i can trick the thing into thinking one games save is for another game, and see if anything corrupts, or if it reads its own saves correctly instead) so far everything i tried didn't corrupt any saves. i even pulled the cart out and turned the power off while saving and it works perfect, no corruption.

and my last thing to test, is DLC and updates. they appear to both work, but i'm curious if i can get carts with DLC pre-loaded onto them to work. (if sky3ds can't do this, then gateway can't either, i'm just testing this one for curiosity).

overall TBH, sky3ds seems better, and region locking is gonna be gone soon to. and thats the only minor thing gateway has over sky3ds ATM.

overall so far i'd get a sky3ds instead, it literally just seems better. you won't be able to run homebrew tho, but honestly from my wii and psp experience, homebrew is fun, but its not THAT great. and besides, sky3ds lets you play online with friends or whatever because its on most recent firmware, gateway literally can't beat that. their announcement to not update past 9.2 all but literally proves they can't have their users past that. meaning gateway is actually possibly worse, unless you really want homebrew that badly. (there isn't much homebrew out now as it is anyway)

i can see gateway making a clone card of sky3ds. sky just got everything perfect.

 

[Deleted-355425]

stay on 9.2 and below and you can use cubic ninja on the sky3ds and use ninjhax for your homebrew

 

[sj33]

Not meaning to start another flashcard fanboy war, but you say that Sky3DS is better than Gateway - in what way? Aside from Gateway temporarily not working on 9.3, I'm not sure I can think of anything that Sky3DS can do that Gateway cannot also do.

The idea that it is unpatchable by Nintendo is pure speculation.

 

[Phantom_User]

virtually unpatchable by nintendo.

People over at #3dsdev would like to have a chat with you. Besides that, we'll see what happens over the next firmware updates by Nintendo and evaluate Sky3DS's performance till then.

 

[Deleted-355425]

Not meaning to start another flashcard fanboy war, but you say that Sky3DS is better than Gateway - in what way? Aside from Gateway temporarily not working on 9.3, I'm not sure I can think of anything that Sky3DS can do that Gateway cannot also do.

The idea that it is unpatchable by Nintendo is pure speculation.

as of right now:

SkY 3DS
+ Plays multiple roms
+ works with all current firmwares
+ Lets you pay online and access eshop when your 3DS firmware is uptodate only
- No rom menu, physical rom selection via hardware button
- Unless you have up-to-date firmware some roms will require you to update to play them
- Cannot have new firmware flashed to it for future hot fixes for when exploit entry points blocked
- Cannot install CIA files, if for patches, you will have to update 3DS firmware to access eshop to grab patches.
- No cross Region for games

Gateway
+ Plays multiple roms
+ Supports EmuNAND for games up to 8.1
+ Access to eshop and online functions via CIA patch installs from devMenu
+ Supports multi region
+ Card can be updated by being flashed to change its ability to enter exploits entry points
- EmuNAND requires the manufacturer to keep creating patches so you can use this function, if possible.
- Currently no emuNAND for 9.4 firmware.
- Currently cannot be used on any 3DS firmware higher then 4.5

 

[dawnbomb]

Not meaning to start another flashcard fanboy war, but you say that Sky3DS is better than Gateway - in what way? Aside from Gateway temporarily not working on 9.3, I'm not sure I can think of anything that Sky3DS can do that Gateway cannot also do.

The idea that it is unpatchable by Nintendo is pure speculation.

it is speculation, but its just as much, even worse speculation to asume that gateway will be able to run on the latest where sky3ds will not. sky uses a real like copy of a 3ds game cart, it would be almost impossible to block.

the idea is, where do you think gateway would be able to run online on latest firmway, with eshop and all, where sky can't? the only difference is gateway uses, in simple terms, hacker methods using things that might be able to get blocked. as for sky, it doesn't, it uses a cart. it doesn't even change games via the 3ds menu, you gotta do it via the cart button. so its undetectable. basically the day sky gets shut down, is the day ALL cards get shut down.

besides, sky has been working on latest for many updates in a row, and stood the test of time. gateway hasn't been working since 4.5, thats basically forever ago. literally ancient. and now they announce not to go past 9.2 . so they are literally announcing that they are ALREADY shut down before they even release. as for sky users, we are still going on perfect forever like nothing ever happened.

there is no downside to sky, the only possible ones, are ones that gateway is much worse at. (again other then homebrew, for the few that care. we arn't getting any home made even 6 hour long 3d rpg game any YEAR soon, so don't worry about that)

 

[piratesephiroth]

Just take a look at Gateway's website before asking questions.

 

[sj33]

it is speculation, but its just as much, even worse speculation to asume that gateway will be able to run on the latest where sky3ds will not. sky uses a real like copy of a 3ds game cart, it would be almost impossible to block.

the idea is, where do you think gateway would be able to run online on latest firmway, with eshop and all, where sky can't? the only difference is gateway uses, in simple terms, hacker methods using things that might be able to get blocked. as for sky, it doesn't, it uses a cart. it doesn't even change games via the 3ds menu, you gotta do it via the cart button. so its undetectable. basically the day sky gets shut down, is the day ALL cards get shut down.

besides, sky has been working on latest for many updates in a row, and stood the test of time. gateway hasn't been working since 4.5, thats basically forever ago. literally ancient. and now they announce not to go past 9.2 . so they are literally announcing that they are ALREADY shut down before they even release. as for sky users, we are still going on perfect forever like nothing ever happened.

there is no downside to sky, the only possible ones, are ones that gateway is much worse at. (again other then homebrew, for the few that care. we arn't getting any home made even 6 hour long 3d rpg game any YEAR soon, so don't worry about that)

But again, every single sentence of that post is speculation. It is fair to say that it has survived the last few updates, Whether or not this will remain the case with future updates remains to be seen. The same goes with Gateway, of course.

To suggest that there are no downsides to Sky3DS makes the inaccurate suggestion that nobody (including the OP) cares about region free, homebrew, .cia installation, rom menu etc. This may be true for yourself but is not an objective suggestion.

Better to just list the pros and cons and let the OP decide, like mech did.

 

[Phantom_User]

it is speculation, but its just as much, even worse speculation to asume that gateway will be able to run on the latest where sky3ds will not. sky uses a real like copy of a 3ds game cart, it would be almost impossible to block.

If anything, the Sky3DS is nothing alike a real 3DS cart hardware-wise. Check out inside pictures of both things

Either way .. Only time will tell when will Sky3DS be blocked or not. I'll be betting on soon (seeing as Nintendo already got Ninjhax out of the way.. For now) though I'm no programmer lol.

 

[lemanuel]

it is speculation, but its just as much, even worse speculation to asume that gateway will be able to run on the latest where sky3ds will not. sky uses a real like copy of a 3ds game cart, it would be almost impossible to block.

the idea is, where do you think gateway would be able to run online on latest firmway, with eshop and all, where sky can't? the only difference is gateway uses, in simple terms, hacker methods using things that might be able to get blocked. as for sky, it doesn't, it uses a cart. it doesn't even change games via the 3ds menu, you gotta do it via the cart button. so its undetectable. basically the day sky gets shut down, is the day ALL cards get shut down.

besides, sky has been working on latest for many updates in a row, and stood the test of time. gateway hasn't been working since 4.5, thats basically forever ago. literally ancient. and now they announce not to go past 9.2 . so they are literally announcing that they are ALREADY shut down before they even release. as for sky users, we are still going on perfect forever like nothing ever happened.

there is no downside to sky, the only possible ones, are ones that gateway is much worse at. (again other then homebrew, for the few that care. we arn't getting any home made even 6 hour long 3d rpg game any YEAR soon, so don't worry about that)

lol....

 

[dawnbomb]

you can wait, no object to that, but as things are now, sky 3ds wins rock solid.

besides, some sites are selling them on sale for christmas right now

 

[lemanuel]

you can wait, no object to that, but as things are now, sky 3ds wins rock solid.

besides, some sites are selling them on sale for christmas right now

I still wonder how so many people talk about it as a competition...
sure, they might both be able to play commercial roms if you only focus on the small picture. but they have so many other features that make them different from each other that it really shouldn't be compared so easily and so directly.
if someone's interest is getting a card that can play dumped games and that it's not easy to block (not unblockable tho), then obviously one considers Sky. Especially people in 9.3/9.4 firmwares.
if someone wants to have more freedom and other different kinds of features, like homebrew, emunand, etc..., then one considers Gateway. While also thinking about the fact that it only works on 4.1-4.5 firmwares (and eventually 9.0-9.2 and possibly others maybe)
One can be considered better than the other? Sure. But that depends on where you want to focus your attention. If you simply look at the bigger picture, they're two different cards for two different kinds of consumers. And when both interests overlap, there's ppl even buying both.
So why bothering to argue so much? It's just because both type of consumers know the flaws that both cards have and neither of those two types of ppl want to be considered the loser party. But there's no losers. Ppl only buy what they want to buy. If they wanted something else, then they should/can buy something else.

And another thing, it also makes no sense saying that one is winning when there's only one competing. Sky3DS is selling and gaining popularity, sure. But it's competing alone (I'm disregarding the clones since the flame war is usually about GW vs Sky). GW doesn't work in other firmwares than 4.1-4.5 so Sky3DS in the obvious choice for anyone interested in playing right away and not on those firmwares.
If you all want to say who wins or loses, or who has more sales or not, then wait until both cards can have a similar target consumer. Because as it stands know, GW is the only contestant for 4.1-4.5 3DS and Sky3DS for 3DS with firmware above that. which is obvious why.