Hacking Blocking Update Servers - Clarification Needed

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Which URls you blocked.Right now I`m on 4.1 and I just got my Wii U and I`m thinking about updating because the Wii U Netflix and Youtube app want open up unless I do a update which would update me to 5.0.
 

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What to do then?I don`t have nothing blocked with router yet.I just got the Wii U and the only thing I did was use Mario Kart 8 and updated to 4.1.Today I`m going to install Homebrew channel.So I need to update to 5.0 in order to use those apps.What I`m asking you is what URLs you use to block updates on 5.0 and will I be able to use the Neflix,Youtube,and the internet browser after I update to 5.0 and block URLs?
 

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Hello guys!

I'm using 2 routers. One of them is my primary router and the other one is used as an acces point. (same SSID, Password, etc.) Unfortunately, my primary router has no options for URL/IP blocking at all, and my acces point can only block 4 URL's.
My Wii U is currently connected to the acces point. Do you guys think there is a solution to this problem? A way for me to prevent the Wii U from updating other than URL/IP blocking?

Thanks in advance!

P.S
Is it possible to prevent the automatic updates by blocking only 4/5 URL's?
 

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Hello guys!

I'm using 2 routers. One of them is my primary router and the other one is used as an acces point. (same SSID, Password, etc.) Unfortunately, my primary router has no options for URL/IP blocking at all, and my acces point can only block 4 URL's.
My Wii U is currently connected to the acces point. Do you guys think there is a solution to this problem? A way for me to prevent the Wii U from updating other than URL/IP blocking?

Thanks in advance!

P.S
Is it possible to prevent the automatic updates by blocking only 4/5 URL's?

Are you sure you can't install a better custom firmware on your router?
 

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Are you sure you can't install a better custom firmware on your router?

Thanks for your reply!
No, I did my research and I'm afraid the latest firmware doesn't solve this. I tried blocking keywords tough, (nintendowifi, nintendo and wii) but unfortunately this didn't work either.
In another topic, someone said something about creating a proxy to prevent the wii U from updating. Could someone explain this to me? I'm very new to that and barely know what a proxy is. :(
 

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So, I've been trying to get a clear-cut answer on the IP ranges to block on my router, to block the Nintendo Update Servers (NUS). So far, this is the list I have compiled from several different threads and my own findings (Balanced URLs appear at end of the list). Is anyone able to confirm these are accurate? Any additions?
  • 23.62.97.9 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 23.62.97.16 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 23.62.97.80 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 23.62.97.82 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 23.62.236.0/24 (unconfirmed - not sure if /24 is necessary)
  • 23.65.181.75 (source: WiiUBrew.org)
  • 23.210.5.9 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 23.210.5.25 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 23.210.5.90 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 23.210.5.96 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 23.210.5.104 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 23.210.5.123 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 23.210.5.129 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 23.210.5.146 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 96.17.161.145 (source: WiiUBrew.org)
  • 174.35.56.0/24 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com - /24 not fully confirmed)
    • 174.35.56.81 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.82 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.93 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.99 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.144 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.149 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.150 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.151 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.152 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.153 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.154 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.170 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.172 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.180 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.181 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.182 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.186 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.197 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.201 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.208 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.216 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.218 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.229 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.230 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.232 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.233 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.235 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
    • 174.35.56.236 (nus.cdn.shop.wii.com)
  • 184.50.229.137 (source: WiiUBrew.org)
  • 184.50.229.158 (source: WiiUBrew.org)
  • 184.51.206.26 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • 184.51.206.42 (nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net)
  • Balanced URLs
    • nus.c.shop.nintendowifi.net
    • nus.cdn.c.shop.nintendowifi.net
    • nus.cdn.shop.wii.com
    • nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net
    • nus.wup.shop.nintendo.net
Thanks goodness that you can block IP ranges, since the Nintendo Update System looks like a huge DHCP server for all these other machines.
 

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Is it possible to keep using the eshop, but prevent updating? If so, which urls do I need to block for that. I am on 5.0 (e) right now.
 

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Yes it is...
People should learn how dns work to know how to block connexions :)
If you are asking for "nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net"
Your will contact the ".net" Domain Name "master" Server (but this one is really to big to be asked by the average joe...)
Then the ".net" DNS server will give you the IPs of the ".shop.net" servers
The "shop.net" servers will give you the IPs of the "shop.nintendo.net
....
But each ISP have some copies of the world domain to ip allocation so your ISP will have only some accesses to the world wide DNS adresses
So no need to block IP range, just some hosts...
Hosts haven't static IP, they change regarding where you're locating Most of the IPs are located in Boston... Nice for Americans...
 

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Yes it is...
People should learn how dns work to know how to block connexions :)
If you are asking for "nus.cdn.wup.shop.nintendo.net"
Your will contact the ".net" Domain Name "master" Server (but this one is really to big to be asked by the average joe...)
Then the ".net" DNS server will give you the IPs of the ".shop.net" servers
The "shop.net" servers will give you the IPs of the "shop.nintendo.net
....
But each ISP have some copies of the world domain to ip allocation so your ISP will have only some accesses to the world wide DNS adresses
So no need to block IP range, just some hosts...
Hosts haven't static IP, they change regarding where you're locating Most of the IPs are located in Boston... Nice for Americans...

All you need is a small map of the network. From the looks of it, we'd only need a few servers out of the lot. Also, when you have a DHCP/DNS server running, there's no need for statically assigning addresses if it's set up correctly. Blocking IP ranges should be considered if additional features from the servers for the Wii U persist.
 

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All you need is a small map of the network. From the looks of it, we'd only need a few servers out of the lot. Also, when you have a DHCP/DNS server running, there's no need for statically assigning addresses if it's set up correctly. Blocking IP ranges should be considered if additional features from the servers for the Wii U persist.

People want to block IP ranges because they have shitty routers that don't support blocking by URL, and they don't know how to re-flash their router with a decent firmware. Odd to me, because I make sure to learn how to re-flash a router before I buy it.
 

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My router only has options for ip/mac addresses/port filtering, and I can't really tinker with its firmware cause it was provided by my internet provider, so I don't actually own it.
Question is, if I take the addresses that I need to block, and check their ip address via the ping command on cmd, does blocking the ip that will pop up be equivalent to blocking the address?

I can't test it out now, since I didn't receive my Wii U yet, but does anyone know if that could work?
 

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I've got a question regarding the blocking of the balanced URL's. Right now I'm blocking all 5 balanced URL's mentioned in the first post. So far it's working, the WiiU doesn't see new Updates on Nintendos servers. Unfortunately also I can't play MK8 online without shortly allowing the WiiU access to those addresses.
So here is what I have to Do:
Start WiiU-> Start MK8-> disable the URL Filter for my WiiU on my Router-> open online Mode in MK8-> wait 10 seconds -> enable the URL Filter for my WiiU on my Router Afterwards everything is working, I can even play online a while, change the game and play another game offline, put MK8 back in and the next time Online works without disabling the filter until the next reboot of my WiiU. The WiiU seems to check a specific adress before starting online play, even if it is not used afterwards.
Has anyone the same problem, is it too much to block all the 5 balanced URL's? What can I try? I'm in germany...
 

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People want to block IP ranges because they have shitty routers that don't support blocking by URL, and they don't know how to re-flash their router with a decent firmware. Odd to me, because I make sure to learn how to re-flash a router before I buy it.

Who knows? Some people still use fairly old routers, although many routers nowadays allow you to access them on your PC through printed on instructions you can find on it. It also usually comes with a default administrator username and password in order for them to access it.
 

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My router only has options for ip/mac addresses/port filtering, and I can't really tinker with its firmware cause it was provided by my internet provider, so I don't actually own it.
Question is, if I take the addresses that I need to block, and check their ip address via the ping command on cmd, does blocking the ip that will pop up be equivalent to blocking the address?

I can't test it out now, since I didn't receive my Wii U yet, but does anyone know if that could work?

Buy your own router and hook it up behind your ISP's router. Just because they give you a router, doesn't mean you have to use it.

And blocking IP's isn't as good, because the IP addresses could change.
 
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People want to block IP ranges because they have shitty routers that don't support blocking by URL, and they don't know how to re-flash their router with a decent firmware. Odd to me, because I make sure to learn how to re-flash a router before I buy it.


Odd to you because you're in the like 1% of people that actually understands how this sort of stuff works, but a lot of people just don't, and that's okay, just like if you don't know how to fix your own car or plumbing or whatever.

Also could be their router doesn't support flashing (and this alone doesn't make it bad) or is provided by their ISP and they don't own it so flashing it would be a really bad idea.
 

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Who knows? Some people still use fairly old routers, although many routers nowadays allow you to access them on your PC through printed on instructions you can find on it. It also usually comes with a default administrator username and password in order for them to access it.

Old routers can be flashed with DD-WRT or something else too. But really everyone should be upgrading to dual band 802.11n routers.
 
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Odd to you because you're in the like 1% of people that actually understands how this sort of stuff works, but a lot of people just don't, and that's okay, just like if you don't know how to fix your own car or plumbing or whatever.

Also could be their router doesn't support flashing (and this alone doesn't make it bad) or is provided by their ISP and they don't own it so flashing it would be a really bad idea.

If it didn't support flashing, I'd buy a new one. If my ISP gave me one, I'd still get another one and put it behind the ISP's. Spending $80 or so on a nice router that will last 5 to 10 years really isn't that much. It will make you happier. I have a good router and it still can't stream 1080P video from laptop to my TV very well.
 

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