Homebrew 3DSNES - Is this real?

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Sorry but I do agree with this guy, it is pretty pointless!. For a start we can play Snes games already on the 3DS and along side many other emulators, just go and buy a DSTwo/DSONEi and don't be so cheapskate, its nothing new or tbh a fantastic break through!. Real exciting stuff for the 3DS would be running Gateway on Firmware after 4.5.0 or even better some sort of Homebrew app to be able to run 3DS roms without the need of a card, now to me that sounds exciting news not something that we already have at our finger tips and have had for along time now! But the designer for the code please don't get me wrong, no offence at all to yourself its just my own opinion on it! ;)

That's not home brew that's a rom loader you are after :teach:

Yeah this will probably be made redundant after smea releases his work, but right now it's just devs toying around with what available to them, homebrew is more than just lets load 3DS roms it's about making new stuff and learning how stuff works, and seeing how far you can push a system :)
 
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HOLY SHIT that one guy arguing about the Dstwo already doing this. DS emulation is simply awful... The resolution is shit, at 176 vertical pixels the goddamn games don't even fit the screen and have to be scaled, which works awfully as well because the DS hardware simply isn't powerful enough to scale properly, or simply the screen cuts entire parts of the screen. It's terrible. I tried playing some NES games and the scaling sucked so much. SNES simply cuts everything. IT'S TERRIBLE. Let's not even get started on the absolute shit Genesis emulation, which would probably be really good on a 3DS.

Then there's the fact that if you play it on a 3DS, it's DS mode and you still have the blur filter that makes everything look like shit. Pixels and colors simply look washed out and not sharp.

3DS emulation would fix all this simply because it supports 240 pixels vertically... It would be pretty awesome. And I don't even have a flashcard, or an exploit. I'm on 7.1.
 

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HOLY SHIT that one guy arguing about the Dstwo already doing this. DS emulation is simply awful... The resolution is shit, at 176 vertical pixels the goddamn games don't even fit the screen and have to be scaled, which works awfully as well because the DS hardware simply isn't powerful enough to scale properly, or simply the screen cuts entire parts of the screen. It's terrible. I tried playing some NES games and the scaling sucked so much. SNES simply cuts everything. IT'S TERRIBLE. Let's not even get started on the absolute shit Genesis emulation, which would probably be really good on a 3DS.

Then there's the fact that if you play it on a 3DS, it's DS mode and you still have the blur filter that makes everything look like shit. Pixels and colors simply look washed out and not sharp.

3DS emulation would fix all this simply because it supports 240 pixels vertically... It would be pretty awesome. And I don't even have a flashcard, or an exploit. I'm on 7.1.


Don't bother, he doesn't seem to understand they are very different animals. He seems to think that its no different than what the DSTwo can already do, despite obvious facts (like what you point out) to the opposite.
 

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Lol at those missing the point and meaning of this, 3DS mode has more resources, what does that mean? Better emulation, better stability, features, etc. You all need to take a step back, stop with the "oh this is useless" bullshit, and realize this is a pretty significant step in the right direction, this is precisely what the 3DS hacking scene needs. Oy vey, you people.

My have people gotten their tits up over this lol :creep:


it is pretty pointless, because it's running on the 3ds without having access to any services that would make it useful. it wastes most of the power that people are excited about. you get access to a core, but none of the good stuff.

Oh dear, you truly are oblivious to the significance of emulation in 3DS mode versus DS mode, aren't you? That's a shame. I'd highly advise that you stop bashing the OP for something you don't even recognize as a milestone. You don't know the difference, 3DS mode has far more resources, far more potential than the DS mode ever had, which is stuck in 10 year-old hardware, not much more can be done to make it better. But you simply refuse to realize that.
 

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Oh dear, you truly are oblivious to the significance of emulation in 3DS mode versus DS mode, aren't you? That's a shame. I'd highly advise that you stop bashing the OP for something you don't even recognize as a milestone. You don't know the difference, 3DS mode has far more resources, far more potential than the DS mode ever had, which is stuck in 10 year-old hardware, not much more can be done to make it better. But you simply refuse to realize that.

Nah, he's aware, he's just bashing the fact that the author didn't properly implement 3ds service yet. He's an elitist that has failed to make any significant advances in REing the 3ds so he wants to make others seem like an equal failure to himself.
 

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yes, that must be it. you guys do stuff the wrong way instead of having a bit of patience, and i'm the failure.
 

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Nah, he's aware, he's just bashing the fact that the author didn't properly implement 3ds service yet. He's an elitist that has failed to make any significant advances in REing the 3ds so he wants to make others seem like an equal failure to himself.


Poor him, boo hoo! :creep: I gotta say though, the fact that there's even a proof of concept emulator running in 3DS mode, that alone says something :D


yes, that must be it. you guys do stuff the wrong way instead of having a bit of patience, and i'm the failure.

Sorry, what? We're praising the developer for doing something as difficult as running emulation in 3DS mode (again, more powerful resources than DS mode) and you have the cojones to bash the developer because you deem it "useless"? Really? That's just flagrant pusillanimity and asininity. It's one thing to have an opinion, it's quite another to flat out bash. Buzz off.


But do please, enlighten us on how we're "wrong" or "don't know how this works" because clearly, you seem to be a Valedictorian programmer of your local university. You needn't flash your masters degree in programming. You're not a failure, you're just pissing everyone off with your bitter attitude.
 

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Sorry I dont mean to be a party pooper on the thread but I just don't find it very original or interesting, I can play Snes games rite now on my 3DS so whats new!

SNES emus on DS, even DStwo isn't great.

3DS has more power, therefore will potentially emulate whatever it emulates better.

Otherwise you can take your SNES on 3DS and I'll raise you and say what's so new about that since I was playing SNES games on a PC back in 97-98, so there. Clearly it's better today, but if all people had your attitude it wouldn't be and we'd all be stuck with slow glitchy DOS based emus.
 

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Poor him, boo hoo! :creep: I gotta say though, the fact that there's even a proof of concept emulator running in 3DS mode, that alone says something :D




Sorry, what? We're praising the developer for doing something as difficult as running emulation in 3DS mode (again, more powerful resources than DS mode) and you have the cojones to bash the developer because you deem it "useless"? Really? That's just flagrant pusillanimity and asininity. It's one thing to have an opinion, it's quite another to flat out bash. Buzz off.


But do please, enlighten us on how we're "wrong" or "don't know how this works" because clearly, you seem to be a Valedictorian programmer of your local university. You needn't flash your masters degree in programming. You're not a failure, you're just pissing everyone off with your bitter attitude.

can you read? i was clearly responding to the clueless guy posting above me.
 

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can you read? i was clearly responding to the clueless guy posting above me.


You clearly don't. He was in responding to your pusillanimously asinine assumption that the emulator in 3DS mode was useless in its current state. Yes, it is a proof of concept, no it can't do a lot in its current state. With that said, to boldly state that

You: "It is pretty pointless, because it's running on the 3ds without having access to any services that would make it useful. it wastes most of the power that people are excited about. you get access to a core, but none of the good stuff"

Really? That couldn't be further from the truth or any more uneducated.
You're clearly bashing the very fact we have a proof of concept emulator running in 3DS mode. That's what we're responding to, your unsubstantiated belligerent opinions that have no basis whatsoever. Do yourself some research and maybe some respect towards this, maybe then we'll listen. No wonder people ragequite, implacable people like you ruin scenes, this is why we can't have nice things.

Good day.
 

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Any chance people could drop the negative attitudes your points are made well done

1. Ds cards can do emulation...that's all great but I think you missed the point
2. There are better ways to do this.....same can be said for everything, nobody is stopping anyone else from doing it "better"

What's the saying....don't put all your eggs in one basket, ATM nobody else has released a nes emulator running in 3ds mode (except Nintendo) so why hate on it because you can do it better
 

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can you read? i was clearly responding to the clueless guy posting above me.

Look, though it's all well and fine that you feel the need to point out the limitations of running everything on bare metal, it's still more powerful than a DS, just much more immature in it's homebrew community. The moment it becomes public knowledge on how to run in 3DS arm11 mode with all the services intact, I'm sure st4rk will implement them into the emulators he makes. Until then, there's no point in pointing out the limitations, as we already know them. If you want to complain, contribute to solving the problem then first. If you're working with Smea to get things ready for release, then I retract that, but that still doesn't mean that you should badmouth progress on this front in the mean time. Just take it for what it is, and be happy that there's even devs interested enough in the 3DS to be making emulators at this time when the console is still basically being blackboxed.
 

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In Bond697's defense though, this is the guy who has already gained control of both ARM CPUs and dumped the RAM to Pokemon and edited it. He does know what he is talking about, so something like this may not seem as exciting to him as it does to others.

With that being said, what st4rk has made is interesting. I'm eager to see where it leads to especially as other groups make further breakthroughs public.
 
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