Gateway 3DS, News and Information

[aalokishere]

Could you explain better what the kart game? What do you mean?

Some games come bundled with updates in the cart themselves. So basically you would need a game which came with the 4.5 update bundled in it(if you want to update that is).
Also sorry but I dont know which games come bundled with which updates so I cant help you there.

But the Gateway card might itself include the ability to be able to update to 4.5 one way or the other so waiting might pay off as well.

 

[McHaggis]

Because the exploit is about getting the 3DS to accept a different medium, not unsigned code.

Do you know this to be a fact or are you just speculating? Because it sounds like speculation.

Well, the exploit must run some form of unsigned code in order to prepare the 3DS for "Gateway mode". However,

The 3DS uses the XN feature of the ARM processor, and only apps that have the necessary permissions in their headers can set memory to be executable. This means that although a usable buffer overflow exploit would still be useful, it would not go the entire way towards allowing code to be run in an easy/practical fashion (ie an actual homebrew launcher) - for that, an exploit in the system is required. A buffer overflow exploit does, however, provide enough wriggle room through the use of return-oriented programming to potentially trigger a system exploit.

So, assuming my earlier posts are correct and the blue card is a clone of a game card with a save data exploit preloaded, it's possible there's "enough wriggle room" to prepare the 3DS to boot another card past security defences but not enough to do anything much more than that without triggering a system exploit.

It's more of an educated guess on Rydian's part than speculation. I guess we could ask for confirmation, but it's likely Gateway would want to keep their secrets to delay competition. Something else we could do is attempt to dump the save file from the blue card using a Save Dongle and then decrypt it (which would also give us the name of the game that's been exploited).

EDIT: after watching the video again and thinking about it, it's likely it disables security checks in memory or even via modifying the NAND, since the video shows several games being subsequently loaded without the involvement of the blue card. This perhaps gives some credence to the possibility of disabling region checks too.

 

[skanjos]

Am I the only that thinks neimods/yellow8 exploit is might the same the "gateway" team used? Not trying to sound like a conspiracy nutor anything, sure nintendo blocked the exploit in the new firmwares, but if the exploit is the same I can clearly see why they didn't release it to public.... money. Sure neimod is against piracy... I don't trust anyone and now that I saw the gateway card used an exploit that was blocked I think I am right... it's sad that with the ps3 scene we saw how many hackers got greedy and now it came to the 3ds scene.. homebrew sure I believe you...

 

[NickTorn]

Has anyone confirmed if this card needs a 3DS on 4.5 in order to update the card firmware or can the card be updated with just the card and a PC?

 

[enarky]

Am I the only that thinks neimods/yellow8 exploit is might the same the "gateway" team used? Not trying to sound like a conspiracy nutor anything, sure nintendo blocked the exploit in the new firmwares, but if the exploit is the same I can clearly see why they didn't release it to public.... money. Sure neimod is against piracy... I don't trust anyone and now that I saw the gateway card used an exploit that was blocked I think I am right... it's sad that with the ps3 scene we saw how many hackers got greedy and now it came to the 3ds scene.. homebrew sure I believe you...

I think it's a safe bet to say that's the same exploit, given the history of the people involved finding it I doubt they sold it to the Gateway team, though. Most likely someone they gave it to.

/speculation

 

[BORODA]

Has anyone confirmed if this card needs a 3DS on 4.5 in order to update the card firmware or can the card be updated with just the card and a PC?

Most likely you'll need 3ds with 4.5 or earlier to update as the card runs only on 4.5 and earlier and they didn't announce any PC connectivity yet (we might see a USB port for card update on the blue card).

 

[DragonStefan]

Crap I'm on 5.1.0-11E. Guess I have to wait then....

 

[opal]

If this card works only on 4.5 and lower FW then how they managed to run Luigi Mansion? Isn't the game require higher FW?

 

[T-hug]

Lol seeing comments about neimod against piracy makes me laugh.
The guy has pirated 100s if not 1000s of games and released them to the public.
Maybe he has just grown up and is NOW against piracy but anyone sending cash there way to help fund decapping (piracy) should be under no illusion the guy is no saint.

 

[BIFFTAZ]

If this card works only on 4.5 and lower FW then how they managed to run Luigi Mansion? Isn't the game require higher FW?

Luigi's Mansion 2 has 4.5 FW on the cart.

 

[taritas]

Some games come bundled with updates in the cart themselves. So basically you would need a game which came with the 4.5 update bundled in it(if you want to update that is).
Also sorry but I don't know which games come bundled with which updates so I cant help you there.

But the Gateway card might itself include the ability to be able to update to 4.5 one way or the other so waiting might pay off as well.

I think these are the games



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[McHaggis]

Lol seeing comments about neimod against piracy makes me laugh.
The guy has pirated 100s if not 1000s of games and released them to the public.
Maybe he has just grown up and is NOW against piracy but anyone sending cash there way to help fund decapping (piracy) should be under no illusion the guy is no saint.

I don't recall Neimod ever saying he's against piracy. I think you can be a pirate without wanting to be responsible for facilitating piracy on a global scale. There are other reasons for not wanting to facilitate piracy, like having a better defence if legal action is taken against you.

 

[cearp]

Animal Crossing, Mario Kart and Kid Icarus have pretty good online at least. There's also Miiverse coming out somewhere within the next 5 years.

although you don't need to be on the latest fw to play online, at least with animal crossing, but if there is an update to the game, and you do not have it, then you need to download that update to play online. and to be able to download the update, you need to be able to access the shop, and to access the shop, you need to update to the latest fw. (right?)

(as I said this is with animal crossing - the Japanese version has an update, so that's how I know about this, maybe every online game is the same etc)
so all nintendo would have to do it release an update patch for the game, if they don't want us to play online using a lower fw.

 

[tecra_a8]

Are there any chance that the 3DS will be jailbreak'ed someday so that we will get free things from e-shop? like the iOS does........

 

[profi200]

Currently I ask yellows8, if he can make a homebrew loader from the stolen kernelmode exploit. If I get green light, then I need a savegame dump from the blue gateway card. If someone have a R4i Save Dongle or dump the save with DSaveManager and buy this card, then make a savegame dump please.

yellows8 answer:

<yellows8> I'm still not interested in releasing total-control haxx. the piracy that will result from that *will* be worse than gateway-3ds, and that would very likely happen before there's much homebrew.

€:
But a savegame would be good to know, how this exactly works. If someone can make a dump, please share it.

 

[overlord00]

Are there any chance that the 3DS will be jailbreak'ed someday so that we will get free things from e-shop? like the iOS does........

Wow, just wow.

Also, can we all make a pact to stop calling this sort of thing a 'jailbreak'. "Custom Firmware", "Flash Card", etc. Not jailbreak. That's iOS talk. ok? ok. thanks internet.

 

[Cartmanuk]

I got a reply saying that more info will be released in the coming days.

[Rumor]They may have a .sav solution using blue set up card.

 

[Green Cat]

Lucky me, I am still on 4.5 .
I was considering getting the Fire Emblem game, does any one know if it's fine on 4.5 or if it requires an update ?

 

[NortenoDelSur]

Lucky me, I am still on 4.5 .
I was considering getting the Fire Emblem game, does any one know if it's fine on 4.5 or if it requires an update ?

It only needs update for DLC

 

[Green Cat]

It only needs update for DLC

Thanks a lot, so I am in luck for now.