Right. Way to follow up with an insult. Especially going way off topic when I only mentioned it as a side not.
It was serious advice, not an insult. ROM sites often lie about this stuff (saying things like it's alright to keep a ROM for 24 hours before deleting it) which contributes to people misunderstanding it.
"It's only illegal if you upload" is one of those lies they tend to put out (and people tend to repeat).
Again, anyone can sue anyone for anything. Civil law has nothing to do with breaking a specific law, but it includes protections.
Piracy is illegal according to US law, and people actually go to court
and lose when they do it.
You probably are paying too much attention to the so-called "copyright trolls" who scare people into paying 200.00 per download.
No, I'm paying attention to the actual laws, court cases, and government write-ups, which I linked you.
Unless you can cite even a single case your arguments are completely moot.
... I linked you two?
I actually looked at your case examples, and they all involved uploaders.
I linked those cases to show that the damages did not have to meet the perceived cost of the products in question (to show that civil cases don't follow all the same rules as criminal ones). They often go to court to make examples out of people, which is
Your links to specific laws didn't appear to say anything specifically supporting your assertions either.
Here, have an FAQ that sums up your misconceptions then, since you seem to like skimming.*
http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-fairuse.html#p2p
Uploading or downloading works protected by copyright without the authority of the copyright owner is an infringement of the copyright owner's exclusive rights of reproduction and/or distribution. Anyone found to have infringed a copyrighted work may be liable for statutory damages up to $30,000 for each work infringed and, if willful infringement is proven by the copyright owner, that amount may be increased up to $150,000 for each work infringed. In addition, an infringer of a work may also be liable for the attorney's fees incurred by the copyright owner to enforce his or her rights.
* - Can't blame you for not looking it up yourself
beforehand since US code is pretty large, but I provided links for you in my post last time so it's skimming after that point.
You did have a good source about your position on making backups of games, but that was a 2 year prohibition that begins and ends at a date not specified.
No it's wasn't. The DMCA added portions to US code (which means they exist until repealed or the US government is demolished), and I linked the portion it added that pertained to the discussion.
And DRM isn't just game backups. CSS on DVDs and such is DRM as well, as is (was) the DRM locking iTunes songs to specific devices, etc.
Even if valid it really depends on how you go about it. I don't have time to give a history lesson on how Electronic Arts entered the gaming market by reverse engineering the Sega Genesis which, according to your own
source, is still valid. So your own source confirms that it is completely legal to circumvent security in order to gain full use of a device.
First. Goddamned. Sentence.
Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (a)(1)(A) [...]
And what's subsection (a)(1)(A)?
The quote I linked, which states that breaking DRM is illegal.
That doesn't in and of itself give the right to back up games, but if your entire argument is dependent on the fact that doing so circumvents technology measures,
You might wish so because it'd make your argument easier, but no it's not.
Suffice to say if you really believe that that it is still piracy I kindly ask you make a new thread about it because this thread was not meant to be about the piracy debate. I already put way too much time into this and I have a Physics II exam in the morning I need to to study for.
You're right, I should make a guide for people like you with these extremely-common misunderstandings.
Because boy, we see a LOT of people like you that don't know what the actual laws and regulations state, and it does tend to drive a lot of threads off-target because of how thick-skulled you people are (
seriously, it shouldn't take this much talk to convince you that the law saying it's illegal means it's illegal).
But hey, if you DON'T want to get read up on the laws and want to risk getting sued for 1.5 million dollars
like another member of the GBAtemp forum was... that's your own choice.
EDIT: The last part of this post is snarky because I did just try to tell you in a single sentence at first, the only reason it's this long is because you keep fighting it.