When is pirating ok? (discussion)

[Filipe C Bello dos Santos]

Look, a game dev is giving free suport for people who is taking his profit.
http://torrentfreak.com/games-developer-gives-customer-support-to-pirate-bay-downloaders-121026/

And from the Positech Games...
http://positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2008/08/09/genuine-call-for-emails-from-pirates/

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Look, a game dev is giving free suport for people who is taking his profit.
http://torrentfreak.com/games-developer-gives-customer-support-to-pirate-bay-downloaders-121026/

And from the Positech Games...
http://positech.co.uk/cliffsblog/2008/08/09/genuine-call-for-emails-from-pirates/

You do realize this is more publicity than anything else?

If you openly come out saying "Piracy is bad and I don't like when people pirate my game" people boo you. If you say "OH I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH PIRACY HERE LET ME HELP YOU PIRATE MY GAME" then a few pirates may go "Eh, might as well buy this one."

Not really proof that "piracy isn't bad", just more proof that people complain more about anti-piracy than being pro-piracy.

 

[retKHAAAN]

Wow... This topic...

Abortion and piracy in the same discussion? Really?

Robin Hood? That would be a nice analogy...except...it's not. Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor so they could SURVIVE... Not to play goddamned games.

When did GBAtemp become full of know-it-all, entitled assholes?

 

[Just Another Gamer]

Wow... This topic...

Abortion and piracy in the same discussion? Really?

Robin Hood? That would be a nice analogy...except...it's not. Robin Hood stole from the rich and gave to the poor so they could SURVIVE... Not to play goddamned games.

When did GBAtemp become full of know-it-all, entitled assholes?

The day rich assholes took advantage of the system and hide behind laws so it can punish ayone who doesn't conform to their ridiculous overpriced requests.

People pirate for whatever reason and it won't stop now even when some elitist thinks he can shove his stupid morals into people's faces and force them to change.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

Hate to go back a few pages but justifying piracy because your government supports abortion is just one of the dumbest fucking things I have read on this website, and that's saying something.

Carry on.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

Hate to go back a few pages but justifying piracy because your government supports abortion is just one of the dumbest fucking things I have read on this website, and that's saying something.

Carry on.

I have never said that.

 

[Guild McCommunist]

I have never said that.

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the guy you were arguing with.

 

[retKHAAAN]

Seriously dude. I'd completely understand if these huge , evil companies were pricing a loaf of bread @ $60 or a carton of eggs. But you're pissing about a luxury item being overpriced. I'm guessing you must have threads elsewhere talling about how overpriced caviar and ferraris are too right? No? I see. So your priorities are just fucked then. You don't need games to survive. You're just a crackhead looking for a fix and bitching because you can't afford it.

Games are cheaper now than they ever were. Why weren't people bitching about it in the nes/snes days? Because they knew it was a luxury item and piracy wasn't even an option available. People used to make due with what they had.

Movie tickets are $8.75 here. That's about $4.37 per hour of entertainment on average. Let's say you buy a game like skyrim @ $60 and put 100 hours into a playthough. You paid $0.09 per hour for that experience. And that's not even factoring in multiple playthroughs. Even games like CoD where the campaigns blow, people put 100s of hours into multiplayer. Put 20 hours into a playthrough of Bioshock and you've still paid less per hour than a movie ticket.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the guy you were arguing with.

Oh. Sorry, misunderstanding on my part.

 

[Rydian]

I don't get my morals from the government

This much of the post I agree with. Legality and morality are two different things. Legality is a general attempt at outlining morality concerning a group as a whole, but it's not perfect.

After all, look at the whole prohibition thing. Didn't we learn anything from that?

After all, Anime nowadays provide even better moral standards then most governments.

One Piece is an anime about pirates, he was joking.

Yes, Movies and Games and Music are Entertainment. You could say someone could live without that. But what would be the point of living if you could do nothing to enjoy it?

Any of the thousands of things people did before electricity? Plays, horseplay, sports, physical music (analog instruments), board games, etc...

 

[pyromaniac123]

This much of the post I agree with. Legality and morality are two different things. Legality is a general attempt at outlining morality concerning a group as a whole, but it's not perfect.

After all, look at the whole prohibition thing. Didn't we learn anything from that?

One Piece is an anime about pirates, he was joking.

Any of the thousands of things people did before electricity? Plays, horseplay, sports, physical music (analog instruments), board games, etc...

Snakes and ladders is the shit.

 

[Just Another Gamer]

Seriously dude. I'd completely understand if these huge , evil companies were pricing a loaf of bread @ $60 or a carton of eggs. But you're pissing about a luxury item being overpriced. I'm guessing you must have threads elsewhere talling about how overpriced caviar and ferraris are too right? No? I see. So your priorities are just fucked then. You don't need games to survive. You're just a crackhead looking for a fix and bitching because you can't afford it.

Games are cheaper now than they ever were. Why weren't people bitching about it in the nes/snes days? Because they knew it was a luxury item and piracy wasn't even an option available. People used to make due with what they had.

Movie tickets are $8.75 here. That's about $4.37 per hour of entertainment on average. Let's say you buy a game like skyrim @ $60 and put 100 hours into a playthough. You paid $0.09 per hour for that experience. And that's not even factoring in multiple playthroughs. Even games like CoD where the campaigns blow, people put 100s of hours into multiplayer. Put 20 hours into a playthrough of Bioshock and you've still paid less per hour than a movie ticket.

Well its nice you have billions of dollars a year to spend but i'm sure a lot of people here don't have that kind of cash and if they did then i'm sure they would be happy to spend to get everything they want. You also mentioned people making due with what they had and guess what they are and that is the games they pirated, I doubt people pirate the games because they want to but because they use that money to pay for bills and other needs like food and petrol and its not like those are getting any cheaper.

Its nice to see someone who can't see the circumstances of others from top of their high horse but let me ask, have you ever never downloaded an MP3? what about buying a used game? or copied a movie a friend let you borrow because you liked it? or share a game with your friends?
All these things big rich companies hate because they don't profit from it but is it wrong or is it making due?

 

[Nurio]

Hahaha Ok man. As I said Your money, your call. Just let us pirates alone and don't judge us

He wasn't even judging you. You're acting as if all these white-knight non-pirates are attacking you. "Let Leave us pirates alone" as if most of us in this thread aren't pirates.

 

[gamewitch]

He wasn't even judging you. You're acting as if all these white-knight non-pirates are attacking you. "Let Leave us pirates alone" as if most of us in this thread aren't pirates.

Probably 3/4 of the posters in this thread have pirated games at some point I mean home is fun and all but let's be for real most people buy flash carts for illegal purposes I know I did

 

[Nurio]

...That's exactly my point. Almost everyone in this thread, way more than 3/4, is a pirate in some fashion.

 

[gamewitch]

Yeah I know I am a pirate and proud of it

 

[retKHAAAN]

Well its nice you have billions of dollars a year to spend but i'm sure a lot of people here don't have that kind of cash and if they did then i'm sure they would be happy to spend to get everything they want. You also mentioned people making due with what they had and guess what they are and that is the games they pirated, I doubt people pirate the games because they want to but because they use that money to pay for bills and other needs like food and petrol and its not like those are getting any cheaper.

Its nice to see someone who can't see the circumstances of others from top of their high horse but let me ask, have you ever never downloaded an MP3? what about buying a used game? or copied a movie a friend let you borrow because you liked it? or share a game with your friends?
All these things big rich companies hate because they don't profit from it but is it wrong or is it making due?

This post was just embarrassing to read...

Who's the one on the high horse? The one reiterating the law? Or the one the who thinks he's the voice of the disenfranchised gamer?

 

[Just Another Gamer]

This post was just embarrassing to read...

Who's the one on the high horse? The one reiterating the law? Or the one the who thinks he's the voice of the disenfranchised gamer?

I have never I was the voice of everyone ele but its clear that anyone who views anything piracy is pure evil needs to be informed of how wrong they are and how big rich companies do lie about how piracy has "affected" them when its clear piracy has done nothing. Look around in this thread, a lot of people admit to pirating and has no second thoughts or problems about it.

 

[Veho]

I doubt people pirate the games because they want to

So would you say video games are a vital need, or an inalienable human right?

 

[retKHAAAN]

I have never I was the voice of everyone ele but its clear that anyone who views anything piracy is pure evil needs to be informed of how wrong tjhey are and how big rich companies do lie about how piracy has "affected" them when its clear piracy has done nothing. Look around in this thread, a lot of people admit to pirating and has no second thoughts or problems about it.

Who here called piracy "pure evil"? My last post said yours was embarrassing to read. It's embarrassing because you exaggerate. A lot. Companies do lie. About a lot. But you do realize that playing games, regardless of whether you pay for them, legitimizes what they do, right? If the games weren't worth it you wouldn't bother pirating them. I pirated just like everyone else here when I joined. I never had any delusions about being Robin Hood or liberating gamers everywhere. I just thought, "why pay for that which you could have for free?" Well, then I grew up and out of that childish entitlement. It's an addiction. You should be going to meetings... I've got my 3 year coin.