Why live when you can die?

[Gahars]

I've technically died three times to date. And while I experienced some powerful visions while my heart was stopped, they still don't compare to what I see in life when I take the time to look around. While I still live I can see the smile on the face of the woman I love when I tell her how much she means to me. Trust me, nothing any afterlife I've visited in all my out of body excursions comes even close to that. Anyone who spends their time worrying about the next life instead of grabbing this one by the short hairs needs to get out more until they find that one thing they care more about so much that even eternity seems like no big deal in comparison.

There are things in this life beyond anything you could possibly imagine if you ever find the courage to truly open your eyes and look. I for one will deal with the next life when I damn well get there. If there is a God out there governing my destiny, the way I see it, which do you think He'd prefer? For me to sit in a dusty old church singing his praises all day or to get out there and make the most out of what He created? And if there ISN'T a God, then all church really is is a dusty old building we take far too seriously for no good reason. I don't know for sure one way or the other if there's a God, I'm only a mortal man despite my inability to be die by conventional means. But it seems to me that God or no God my way makes pretty good sense. And if there's a God out there that would rather I waste the gift of life sat in said dusty old church doing nothing but sing his praises, then frankly he's nothing more than a slave driver with the concept of Hell as his whip, and not one part of that sounds like anything worthy of my respect.

Fascinating stuff, really. Please, do go on.

 

[KingVamp]

If you believe there is an afterlife, can't you not appreciate the one you already have?

I feel that you can.

 

[chavosaur]

Because I havent seen how breaking bad is going to end yet.

 

[Lacius]

If you believe in afterlife, can't you not appreciate the one you already have?

I feel that you can.

Sure, but when you have the idea in your head that there is some sort of afterlife or that our consciousness is in some way eternal, that devalues this life, and that's why this thread exists.

 

[Icealote]

Why live when you can die

Why die when you can live. Sounds like another stupid #yolo tweet haha

 

[Deleted-188346]

This is a stupid question.

Life has infinite possibilities and potential for all individuals on this planet. Even with a lifetime of living life to the fullest, you will have not experienced all the wonders that our existence can offer. The only reasonable excuse I can think of to want to die, is if you've been afflicted with a terminal illness and do not wish for your loved ones to see you waste away.

 

[Canonbeat234]

The question I have for the TC is that living is creating. If you die then you can't create anything! So rather create yourself a life or don't do nothing and stop moving.

 

[ComeTurismO]

What's going on over here?

 

[Sop]

What's going on over here?

Do I believe that you are talking about how you die maybe they do?
What is everyone's opinion about your life after death, such as: additional information about a topic? I personally do not have a memory of previous life, I believe in reincarnation

 

[Maxternal]

What's going on over here?

That's deep .. if you think about it.

 

[BORTZ]

live like a windrammer as you fuck

See your future in balls

 

[Yumi]

None of us really know if there is an afterlife.

Until we really die.


Well, i am stumped.
I rather live to enjoy some margaritas/cheese-cake/fruits/nature/etc...and keep gaming some more. ;o

 

[Haloman800]

I have been searching for answers all my life, and nothing makes sense besides to experience the death myself.

That's like being caught up the river without a paddle, live your life to the fullest, and be prepared for anything (including death), don't rush into it.

Everyone that dies and comes back says they have an out of body experience, they feel lighter, and they are conscious. There was even a book written recently about a nonscientific who died and experienced Heaven, and came back to life, here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/Proof-Heaven-..._B008OV2YR4_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357788487&sr=1-1

It's not about religion or being good enough, it's only about Jesus and what he did for us at Calvary, dying on the cross to save us from our sins.

 

[Sychophantom]

This is the problem with a lot of belief systems. They focus on an afterlife. You have a life right now. Improve that first, or finish it if you're so concerned with what's next.

It's also a bit arrogant to think any one religion has it right. There are hundreds of divisions in Christianity. There are a few in Judaism, pretty sure there are a few in Islam. There's the Pastafarians, the humanists, the Discordians, even the Satanists (both "real" and LeVay's followers).

Everyone has their own ideas. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride. When it's over, that's when you'll find out what's next.

 

[Castiel]

Meh, may as well throw my opinion out there.

Do I believe in Heaven and Hell? Yes.
Do I believe that this is reason to rush to my death bed? Absolutely not.
There is so much to do, so much to see, and so much to learn.
So many relationships to build and people to help.
My death will come when it comes.
Until then I'm going to continue to get through life's obstacles
Try to continue to improve myself (as I have many, many flaws I would like to change. And no, not only physical flaws.)
Do what I believe I was put here to do, and enjoy it with those I come to gain a relationship with.

 

[leic7]

Why do some of you people think suicide needs to have an "excuse"? ...as if, there's something inherently evil about committing suicide that a person would need to have an acceptable excuse to make it less evil.

Living is...a lot of work, actually. Maintaining a reasonable standard of living requires constant input, and that can be exhausting. It's like playing a sandbox/MMO/simulation game that just goes on and on and on... Eventually, some players would want to stop playing. Those who say they still love playing it and will never stop until the system crashes, are the relatively new players, or they just don't mind the grinding, as long as they get to do a new quest once in a while.

But quitting is a lot of work, too. It's like a huge boss fight where you'd have to nail every single detail all the way through, or else you'd risk being thrown right back to the game in an even worse shape than before you started. That sounds like a lot of work.

DeadlyFoez, do you prefer there's "something", or "nothing", after death? Like, do you look forward to some sort of a "New Game+", or will you just be relieved that you don't have to play the game anymore?

 

[nryn99]

I'm actually pretty interested if there's something after death. However, having no enough assurances that there will indeed be a life after death, I find the risk of ending my long life for something very uncertain, too much.

I never liked gambling if my chances of winning is less than 85%.

 

[gifi4]

What you're saying is it's a bit of trial and error.
Here's the thing, with trial and error, if you fail, you can, get this, retry it with a different strategy.
However, death will not give you a retry at life.

If you're expecting some sort of afterlife (Regardless of what your religion is) then that is physically impossible. I hate to burst your bubble but once your brain stops working, you have no consiousness.

 

[Lacius]

Everyone that dies and comes back says they have an out of body experience, they feel lighter, and they are conscious. There was even a book written recently about a nonscientific who died and experienced Heaven, and came back to life, here's a link: http://www.amazon.com/Proof-Heaven-..._B008OV2YR4_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357788487&sr=1-1

There is a difference between a near-death experience and actually dying. Our definition of "dead" is constantly changing. Even when one's heart stops, his or her brain is still functioning for a few minutes after that until the brain dies from oxygen deprivation, and that's what is demonstrably responsible for these near-death experience claims (in fact, people are being brought back to life as long as 40 minutes after "death" through a process of keeping the body cold and gradually reintroducing heat and oxygen to get the cells out of their "self-destruct" mode). For example, the common "light at the end of the tunnel" claim has been demonstrated to be the result of oxygen deprivation. Pilots and astronauts experience the exact same thing when they practice in the centrifuge and oxygen isn't reaching the brain. Out-of-body experiences have to do with the part of the brain "malfunctioning" that is responsible for keeping you aware of where you are spatially. In fact, in laboratory tests, people who claim to have had out-of-body experiences can never demonstrate that they were actually out of their bodies. For example, they couldn't identify what was on the tables and whatnot around their body when, had they actually been floating out of their bodies, they would have been able to do so.

In summary, there's no reason to think there's an afterlife, and there's no way to distinguish supposed near-death experiences from naturalistic processes and dreams. There's also no reason to think consciousness is anything more than the product of the brain, which dies.

It's not about religion or being good enough, it's only about Jesus and what he did for us at Calvary, dying on the cross to save us from our sins.

You said it wasn't about religion, and then you explained how you think it's about religion.

 

[pierslogic]