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I'm buying this:

http://realhotstuff2...d-3DS_p_86.html

DSTWO has a hell of a lot more features..but is a hell of a lot more expensive.(i have a HTC Thunderbolt for GBA emulation, movies and music)..and I got by without those features on my Acekard 2i...I can keep getting by without them.

seems like to me though, Acekard 2i has more features.and the fix for the R4i Gold 3DS is not out yet.... fuck. I might just buy the DSTWO : /

I have a useless acekard 2i right now....what would you do?

would you wait or buy now before Nintendo starts making it impossible to get any of these carts online?
 

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I'm buying this:

http://realhotstuff2...d-3DS_p_86.html

DSTWO has a hell of a lot more features..but is a hell of a lot more expensive.(i have a HTC Thunderbolt for GBA emulation, movies and music)..and I got by without those features on my Acekard 2i...I can keep getting by without them.

seems like to me though, Acekard 2i has more features.and the fix for the R4i Gold 3DS is not out yet.... fuck. I might just buy the DSTWO : /

I have a useless acekard 2i right now....what would you do?

would you wait or buy now before Nintendo starts making it impossible to get any of these carts online?
I'm considering getting a DSTWO myself now. If the AK2i is permablocked now... Well crap.
 

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I'm buying this:

http://realhotstuff2...d-3DS_p_86.html

DSTWO has a hell of a lot more features..but is a hell of a lot more expensive.(i have a HTC Thunderbolt for GBA emulation, movies and music)..and I got by without those features on my Acekard 2i...I can keep getting by without them.

seems like to me though, Acekard 2i has more features.and the fix for the R4i Gold 3DS is not out yet.... fuck. I might just buy the DSTWO : /

I have a useless acekard 2i right now....what would you do?

would you wait or buy now before Nintendo starts making it impossible to get any of these carts online?
I'm considering getting a DSTWO myself now. If the AK2i is permablocked now... Well crap.

but R4i GOLD 3DS (r4ids.cn) is cheaper and has defeated the block.....why not go with that one?
 

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I'm buying this:

http://realhotstuff2...d-3DS_p_86.html

DSTWO has a hell of a lot more features..but is a hell of a lot more expensive.(i have a HTC Thunderbolt for GBA emulation, movies and music)..and I got by without those features on my Acekard 2i...I can keep getting by without them.

seems like to me though, Acekard 2i has more features.and the fix for the R4i Gold 3DS is not out yet.... fuck. I might just buy the DSTWO : /

I have a useless acekard 2i right now....what would you do?

would you wait or buy now before Nintendo starts making it impossible to get any of these carts online?
I'm considering getting a DSTWO myself now. If the AK2i is permablocked now... Well crap.

Well, the in game text reader is nice and save state support can be very useful for games without even a quicksave option. Not to mention that you can update it even if you have already updated your dsi/3ds thanks to the "b method".
 
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so with R4I gold there is hope for the acekard 2i ?

NO.

95% of flash carts are permanently fucked until they re-innovate. including Acekard2i

What do you mean by re-innovate?
I tought that if AK2i used the IC save correctly with a firmware update
it would be able to run on v4.4.0-10
Is that what you mean by re-innovate?
Or am I wrong?
 

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Interesting times! Now to get the popcorn and wait what will happen to the DSTwo & Co. in the future :P


@[member='Rydian']: It could be good to note that Class 3 is also blocked so far since the iCyclo hasn't been updated after the save checking update before. I presume it could be circumvented if someone was able to alter the iCyclo bootloader/firmware, but so far it's a no-go. That leaves us with Class 2 and the carts there. Is there any ideas in the future of blocking the rest of them in one way or the other?
Idunno' nearly enough to say. Hell, I was holding onto that info since last May and it only became important now.

It makes you wonder if Nintendo have recently hired an expert that came up with the idea, or were tipped off. I suspect that they could also block the remaining class2 flash cards permanently by finding other unique hardware differences. Take the DSTWO, for instance, which has a built-in CPU. If DS homebrew can detect and take advantage of this additional CPU, what's stopping Nintendo from running a small amount of code that does the same when a card is inserted?
The DS units are ARM and run the code on the 3/DS/i itself, whereas the DSTwo's CPU is MIPS and only reads data from it's own MicroSD, so a DS unit feeding data to the 3DS's CPU seems unlikely.

So that's why my favorite store has stopped carrying AK2i for R4i Golds.
This news just came in the past 24 hours, it's likely because the AK2i started taking over a month to update. Also "R4" gets more sales.

I would be shocked at all to hear that it is just something Nintendo overlooked and they will get their own save chip checks next go around
Well traditionally Nintendo's AP has been "check a few things in a few games". Some games will check save size one way, some will check it another way, others will check for boot logo consistency, and so on. Even with the DS, most types of AP only do one or two checks.

However when talking about blocking flash carts on the 3DS, there's a lot more power to spare. Running some sort of sanity check on the DS that would take 10 seconds before boot is a no-go, but if the same action takes 1/3rd of a second on the 3DS, it's suddenly feasible.

"Why was the 3DS not released with this?" It was also release without an internet browser or the eshop, and 3D video recording didn't make it in until 3.x.

DSTWO has a hell of a lot more features..but is a hell of a lot more expensive.
DSTwo: $40.
http://realhotstuff2.3dcartstores.com/Supercard-DSTWO_p_25.html
Gets you over 99% of all DS games.

Dora The Explorer: Dora Puppy: $49
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Dora-the-Explorer-Dora-Puppy-DS-Nintendo-DS/11974197
Gets you a single game.

Anyways modchipcentral.com, realhotstuff.com, and zhuzhuchina.com are usually recommended shops.

What do you mean by re-innovate?
I tought that if AK2i used the IC save correctly with a firmware update
it would be able to run on v4.4.0-10
Is that what you mean by re-innovate?
Or am I wrong?
If that's part of the read-only part, then it can't be updated.

Supposedly some groups have dumped various flash cart chips (including the AK2i)... but it's not like diving in will help any, since the physical chip is protected and will need replacing (or, theoretically, re-flashing from the original factory).
 
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I don't really understand the info given.
The DSi blocked existing kits with a hardware or low-level system change. How can the 3DS do the same with a software update? Why can't we just flash new bootstraps?
 

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I don't really understand the info given.
The DSi blocked existing kits with a hardware or low-level system change. How can the 3DS do the same with a software update? Why can't we just flash new bootstraps?

It wasn't possible to update the firmware on DS Phat and DS Lite.
If it was possible this same update could be used on DS Phat and DS Lite
 

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I don't really understand the info given.
The DSi blocked existing kits with a hardware or low-level system change. How can the 3DS do the same with a software update? Why can't we just flash new bootstraps?

It wasn't possible to update the firmware on DS Phat and DS Lite.
If it was possible this same update could be used on DS Phat and DS Lite
I never said anything about the DS Phat or Lite.
 

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The DSi blocked existing kits with a hardware or low-level system change.
How can the 3DS do the same with a software update?
What do you mean? The DSi blocked carts based on software, it blocked them based on the responses they gave when asked for their ID.

Why can't we just flash new bootstraps?
It's no longer checking just the code given on boot. Unfortunately for most older flash carts, the code given on boot is the only thing they made updateable, for cost reasons.
 
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I don't really understand the info given.
The DSi blocked existing kits with a hardware or low-level system change. How can the 3DS do the same with a software update? Why can't we just flash new bootstraps?

It wasn't possible to update the firmware on DS Phat and DS Lite.
If it was possible this same update could be used on DS Phat and DS Lite
I never said anything about the DS Phat or Lite.

Then what do you mean with DSi hardware change?
 

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I don't really understand the info given.
The DSi blocked existing kits with a hardware or low-level system change. How can the 3DS do the same with a software update? Why can't we just flash new bootstraps?

It wasn't possible to update the firmware on DS Phat and DS Lite.
If it was possible this same update could be used on DS Phat and DS Lite
I never said anything about the DS Phat or Lite.

Then what do you mean with DSi hardware change?

Exactly what I mean, the DSi hardware changes. Not the ability to update the firmware, but actual hardware changes.
Just forget it.
 

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I don't really understand the info given.
The DSi blocked existing kits with a hardware or low-level system change. How can the 3DS do the same with a software update? Why can't we just flash new bootstraps?

It wasn't possible to update the firmware on DS Phat and DS Lite.
If it was possible this same update could be used on DS Phat and DS Lite
I never said anything about the DS Phat or Lite.

Then what do you mean with DSi hardware change?

Exactly what I mean, the DSi hardware changes. Not the ability to update the firmware, but actual hardware changes.
Just forget it.

I don't remember of Nintendo ever releasing a new model of DSi,
correct me if I'm wrong
 

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