Almost All Flash Kits Blocked Permanently

[porkiewpyne]

I don't remember of Nintendo ever releasing a new model of DSi,
correct me if I'm wrong

Think he meant in terms of DSPhat/lite to DSi/XL

 

[VMM]

I don't remember of Nintendo ever releasing a new model of DSi,
correct me if I'm wrong

Think he meant in terms of DSPhat/lite to DSi/XL

I tought the same, but he answered me this:
I never said anything about the DS Phat or Lite

 

[Rydian]

I don't really understand the info given.
The DSi blocked existing kits with a hardware or low-level system change. How can the 3DS do the same with a software update? Why can't we just flash new bootstraps?

It wasn't possible to update the firmware on DS Phat and DS Lite.
If it was possible this same update could be used on DS Phat and DS Lite

I never said anything about the DS Phat or Lite.

Then what do you mean with DSi hardware change?

Exactly what I mean, the DSi hardware changes. Not the ability to update the firmware, but actual hardware changes.
Just forget it.

It's not a hardware change, it's a software change.
http://hackmii.com/2010/02/lawsuit-coming-in-3-2-1/
And the DSi/3DS updates just include additional things to check.

What he meant was that the DS/Lite couldn't have this functionality added to them because they can't update.

 

[loco365]

Well, perhaps I'll order an R4i. It's the cheaper of the two.

 

[NostalgicMillennial]

Well, perhaps I'll order an R4i. It's the cheaper of the two.

likewise...it's not as good as the Acekard 2i though.......

but pirates hackers can't be choosers

 

[NostalgicMillennial]

by the time Super Smash Bros 3DS comes out...it will come pre-loaded with a 100% killing flash kit update.

crap. double post. my bad,

 

[loco365]

by the time Super Smash Bros 3DS comes out...it will come pre-loaded with a 100% killing flash kit update.

crap. double post. my bad,

Knowing Nintendo, probably.

 

[NostalgicMillennial]

by the time Super Smash Bros 3DS comes out...it will come pre-loaded with a 100% killing flash kit update.

crap. double post. my bad,

Knowing Nintendo, probably.

with Nintendo not sparing a moment allow paid DLC to penetrate New Super Mario Bros 2, Fire Emblem (which I heard has unforgiving DLC rates) and Final Fantasy Theatrhythm, if Nintendo fucking takes SSB 3DS to hell as well (charging extra $$ for DLC characters) then i'll sure as hell pass. if not. then SSB 3DS will be a day one purchase for me...

oh well...the R4i GOLD 3DS i'm looking at is $10.00..not much of a loss / gamble there.

edit - a little man on my shoulder is telling me I should wait until the actual patch is released for R4i GOLD 3DS...I think I will listen...

 

[bobbyllama]

I've got the R4i DSN 3DS, whose website is conveniently down right now. Safe to assume this card is useless on v4.4.0-10*?

It's a shame, too. I was going to pay for Cave Story+ on Thursday but won't be able to access the eShop, as I won't be updating just yet.

Edit: Just read in post #84 that the cards from r4idsn.com have survived this round. Still waiting to see if that's the case before accepting the update.

 

[LurkerA]

I think we will see a new generation of flash cards come out now, similar to DSTWO in that they have an additional processor in the cart.
I think we will see at least one where the extra cpu is just powerful enough to do what is necessary to bypass the ap protection and whatnot, but not so powerful that it drains the battery like DSTWO.

Hey, don't forget the R4i Gold 3DS (www.r4ids.cn) stated that it would release a patch very soon, I don't think there is any extra CPU on its board...

 

[nl255]

I think we will see a new generation of flash cards come out now, similar to DSTWO in that they have an additional processor in the cart.
I think we will see at least one where the extra cpu is just powerful enough to do what is necessary to bypass the ap protection and whatnot, but not so powerful that it drains the battery like DSTWO.

Hey, don't forget the R4i Gold 3DS (www.r4ids.cn) stated that it would release a patch very soon, i don't think there is any extra CPU on its board...

It probably does have extra FPGA space on it's board though which is basically the same thing (though not nearly as fast).

 

[KidIce]

Supercard brought back the idea of the save list/save chip emulation in their DSTwo's clean mode thing to have games work until their AP could be cracked (the old EZ5 lost a the savelist way back when as it was dropped to compete with the "drag and drop but update your kernel occasionally/every few days" R4, but for years and years it could use it to run games before they were cracked/patched) hence their possibly being able to work around this update and others not being so lucky.

While I don't miss maintaining my save list, I do miss it for all its advantages. I wish they would have done some form of hybrid. Drag and drop for the whiners and games already in their patch list, and a save list mode for the new releases and us guys who appreciated the advantages it brought. :-/

I've still got an old EZ5 (non plus or i) that I kept so I can run the old kernals that use save lists and it's PassMe functionality (another feature sadly removed). It's socketed in my lite. I'd use it more, but obviously it will not work on my DSi. I mostly use my lite for GBA and my DSi for for DS... I still don't like what DS games look like on the 3DS and the viewable space is smaller than the DSi.

 

[Astoria]

Wonder if we will get a lot of new flashcards soon
Or if there will be just a few flashcards in the near future.

 

[JulietStMoon]

Wonder if we will get a lot of new flashcards soon
Or if there will be just a few flashcards in the near future.

Perhaps it'll be a while. Companies might be very hesitant to risk developing new flash carts, especially after seeing how Nintendo just wiped out almost all of them.

 

[VMM]

Wonder if we will get a lot of new flashcards soon
Or if there will be just a few flashcards in the near future.

Perhaps it'll be a while. Companies might be very hesitant to risk developing new flash carts, especially after seeing how Nintendo just wiped out almost all of them.

At least there is a good side in it:
The bad flashcards will stop being produced soon,
and the new flashcards that will come up from now will have a better buit-in quality.

 

[LurkerA]

I think we will see a new generation of flash cards come out now, similar to DSTWO in that they have an additional processor in the cart.
I think we will see at least one where the extra cpu is just powerful enough to do what is necessary to bypass the ap protection and whatnot, but not so powerful that it drains the battery like DSTWO.

Hey, don't forget the R4i Gold 3DS (www.r4ids.cn) stated that it would release a patch very soon, i don't think there is any extra CPU on its board...

It probably does have extra FPGA space on it's board though which is basically the same thing (though not nearly as fast).

As matter of fact, I don't think the team SCS2 got the point for how/why Nintento blocked the flashcards this time, what they stated so called - " save IC" issue by themselves is just a joke. People will get the truth after R4i Gold 3DS releasing the patch, let's wait and see..

 

[JulietStMoon]

At least there is a good side in it:
The bad flashcards will stop being produced soon,
and the new flashcards that will come up from now will have a better buit-in quality.

In theory, yeah. But that doesn't mean it'll happen. We can always hope, though.

As for me, I've decided to move away from flash carts and start buying actual games. I'll still keep the one I have on hand for occasional homebrew if I find anything that truly interests me (as well as to "test" DS games I feel uncertain of before buying them), but since I'm going to start seriously collecting Nintendo games from all generations, I might as well start by actually buying DS titles and being an honest man again.

 

[VMM]

At least there is a good side in it:
The bad flashcards will stop being produced soon,
and the new flashcards that will come up from now will have a better buit-in quality.

In theory, yeah. But that doesn't mean it'll happen. We can always hope, though.

As for me, I've decided to move away from flash carts and start buying actual games. I'll still keep the one I have on hand for occasional homebrew if I find anything that truly interests me (as well as to "test" DS games I feel uncertain of before buying them), but since I'm going to start seriously collecting Nintendo games from all generations, I might as well start by actually buying DS titles and being an honest man again.

Games, and eletronic products in general here, in Brazil,
are expensive as hell, that's one of many reasons why brazilians like pirating.

The PS3 was first released for $4000
a 3DS XL is $600.

But nothing compares to car prices.
In USA you can buy a new Honda Civic for $7000.
In Brazil the Honda Civic prices start at $37000

 

[JulietStMoon]

Games, and eletronic products in general here, in Brazil,
are expensive as hell, that's one of many reasons why brazilians like pirating.

The PS3 was first released for $4000
a 3DS XL is $600.

But nothing compares to car prices.
In USA you can buy a new Honda Civic for $7000.
In Brazil the Honda Civic prices start at $37000

I feel you. Just to clarify: I wasn't trying to judge pirates or make myself sound better than them with my last post. I was just saying it's something that I don't think is really worth it anymore, at least to me.

 

[VMM]

Games, and eletronic products in general here, in Brazil,
are expensive as hell, that's one of many reasons why brazilians like pirating.

The PS3 was first released for $4000
a 3DS XL is $600.

But nothing compares to car prices.
In USA you can buy a new Honda Civic for $7000.
In Brazil the Honda Civic prices start at $37000

I feel you. Just to clarify: I wasn't trying to judge pirates or make myself sound better than them with my last post. I was just saying it's something that I don't think is really worth it anymore, at least to me.

Don't worry, I didn't think that way
The thing is, it's hard to be a young brazilian.
I'm saving money for my first car and a notebook(mine is 7 years old).
I can't spend much money on something not that necessary as games.
I already use only originals on my PS3, but I can't handle more than one system with original games,
and I'll probably won't buy any game for a year.

By all that I said I think you understand my situation,
and why I desperately need a flashcard.
I buy original games from time to time,
but just when I can, and because I feel it's the right think to do