Switch emulator Citron is being discontinued and Ryubing enters maintenance mode

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Citron, one of the big main 3 Nintendo Switch emulators that came out of Yuzu's downfall is sadly being discontinued.

Yesterday on Citron's subreddit. one of Citron's moderators, lockhart1433, announced that the Citron emulator will be discontinued due to internal conflicts, citing one of the major problems being that one of the lead developers got doxxed, leaking the real name and location of the developer, as well as still some lingering issues with the whole fallout from last year between Citron and some of its developers, which led to the creation of the Eden emulator, as well as the controversy when they switched how their internal Discord server operated, which happened alongside it.

This decision seems to be a culprit of all the previously mentioned topics, and now all of Citron's servers and websites have all been taken down, including their own self-hosted repository.

lockhart1433 said:
Citron has been discontinued after the recent drama involving eden. To keep a long story short, theres a new .tar file floating around called the citron files. Inside of these are zephyrons full name, location and camilles side of events mirroring the fall of citron post from last year. To add fuel to the fire, scubasteve a verified admin of citron may have been the one adding fuel to this. The files basically summarize every event leading up to camille getting a cease and desist from zephyron due to accepting donations claiming to be the lead developer. Everything died down for a year and now its back again. So i guess eden wins. Camille wins and is to blame for this. No more stolen commit posts. No more reverse engineering to improve switch emulation for everyone. Now all eyes are on you to step up since LotP is the only one with the knowledge. Reminder that totk and botw wouldnt work on 20.0 without their knowledge. So we bid you all goodbye and await the next project or maintainer to step up. The drama is now...finally...over and we are free.

Not only that, but also one of the other main 3 Switch emulators, Ryubing, will also change, with the main developer GreemDev no longer maintaining the Ryubing project. However, the Ryubing emulator will still remain in "maintenance mode" by other users, like LotP, but GreemDev will no longer be involved in the development of Ryubing going forward.

GreemDev said:
Ryubing is not going anywhere. There's a lot of things going on in the scene right now, and I want to take the time to clarify some things. --- It is with a heavy heart that I announce that GreemDev is no longer maintaining the project. He's moved on to bigger and better things, and we support him in this decision. LotP and I will be spearheading the project moving forward, and while we do plan to make some changes, we can't promise anything more than what Ryubing currently is. This is not a phoenix project, this is a maintenance project, and we are sticking to those limited goalposts. We are not discontinuing development, but we do need help -- if you want to contribute, please reach out tofor an account on our GitLab.thanks for sticking it out ~ GreemDev

It is also with a heavy heart that I announce that the Citron project has discontinued. Zeph has taken the project down and left Discord. As this is a pretty hot topic, please refrain from discussing the happenings unless you are knowledgeable about the situation (see Rule #3, no drama, please). We are monitoring the scene for changes, and we are aware that forks will likely pop up. We are working with developers on a solution, but in the meantime, I strongly advise you all to be vigilant and wait for an announcement regarding this. --- With this being said, you may see a lot of new members join the server. Please say hello and welcome them to our little hellscape. To our newcomers, hello and welcome to Ryubing! I

and make yourself familiar with our policies, they're a bit different than what you might be used to. If you have questions, you are welcome to ask -- all I ask in return is that you are respectful. This is a difficult time for all of us, but we'll get through it. If you want to help us out, we are looking for contributors, and boosts help the server a lot! We are about to lose our server tag if we don't get more boosts, and I know many of you want to see the gradient role colors come back.

We're also opening ⁠chat for notes and suggestions from the community on what we should work on, and we're going to be accepting applications for a new helper role. You can message me directly if you're interested (will require verification). Thanks for sticking around, and for reading the giant text wall. love you guys.

It is important to note though, that this is not related to the recent wave of DMCA's sent by Nintendo on GitHub earlier this week, as these decisions were made mainly due to internal conflicts and events unrelated to that wave of DMCAs, more so given how all 3 Switch emulators do not operate within Github and rather self-host their own source code.

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one of the major problems being that one of the lead developers got doxxed, leaking the real name and location of the developer
lingering issues with the whole fallout from last year between Citron and some of its developers, which led to the creation of the Eden emulator
as well as the controversy when they switched how their internal Discord server operated,


Nintendo fans are some of the most insane users that I've ever seen. I haven't been following through the Switch emulation space, but for things to die like this is rather unfortunate. Especially for Riycubing going into matinence mode.
 
That's it. I need to filter news on |GBA| temp. Im sick of hearing the word "nintendo".
There is something seriously wrong with that company.
Bruh, read the article
Yesterday on Citron's subreddit. one of Citron's moderators, lockhart1433, announced that the Citron emulator will be discontinued due to internal conflicts, citing one of the major problems being that one of the lead developers got doxxed, leaking the real name and location of the developer, as well as still some lingering issues with the whole fallout from last year between Citron and some of its developers, which led to the creation of the Eden emulator, as well as the controversy when they switched how their internal Discord server operated, which happened alongside it.

That said, I hate that doxxing has become so normal these days. Countless projects have been ruined because some dickheads decided to put others in danger for literally the stupidest of reasons
 
:rofl2:

People saying "Nintendo bad bad bad", while we all use emulators to pirate their games.
Why don't we see such news about Playstation or Xbox emulator? Maybe because there is no real emulator for their recent consoles? We can barely emulate XBox360 and PS3 games, let alone XBO and PS4 games. Of course they don't care about their 15+ years old consoles. Same goes for Nintendo. I don't see a lot of news about them taking down NDS or Wii emulator either.

To be clear, I'm not saying that Nintendo doesn't suck as a company, or that they have the outmost respect for their customers. But let's be real, this is the same kind of action any companies would do against such organisation.
 
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This decision seems to be a culprit of all the previously mentioned topics, and now all of Citron's servers and websites have all been taken down, including their own self-hosted repository.
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Pog, glad I anticipated this and downloaded all the latest versions just a few days ago :creep:
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That said, I hate that doxxing has become so normal these days. Countless projects have been ruined because some dickheads decided to put others in danger for literally the stupidest of reasons

Yup, happened to me with my game I own on Steam. They tried, but ultimately failed. But the fact they were hellbent on doxxing me just for releasing a patch that some disagreed with, is absolutely nuts and those people who indulge in this, should go straight to prison without passing GO and without collecting $200. It's always the entitled, "always online" crazies who believe the world owes them everything.
 
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Having seen the previous attacks by Greemdev against Eden, I'd take his accusations with oceanful of salt tbh. Maybe Ryu can find a maintainer concentrating on coding, instead of scene drama and throwing (baseless?) accusations around.
 
Good. I had been to their Discord several times and the admins/mods and other users were nothing but complete assholes. With the way I saw them treat people, they deserve anything that happened. Most likely they pissed off the wrong people. Karmas a bitch. Good riddance.
 

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