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I'd love to discuss opinions, but... look I already explained it, it's not my fault if you can't read. It's not that you disagree, it's that you wouldn't even acknowledge the point and instead pivot into an incoherent ramble. And that's the essence of this place.
Which one looks the best? The one demonising trans people, the one destroying investment in clean energy or the one that removes the group monitoring gun violence? Or the one withdrawing from the Paris agreement? Or the one that removes the price cap on price of medicine like insulin? Or the one where he pulled out of the WHO?
I'd love to know what your perspective is. That of "im alright Jack so screw everyone else"? Do you think your fleeting financial security will help when the planet burns? Money cannot be eaten.
You know what CAN be eaten? Food. Food that is grown or farmed with a sustainable climate. Crops don't grow with scorching heats and heatstroke affects all living beings, except maybe jellyfishes and cockroaches. You may not care about a future diet of jellyfish sushi and cockroach pie, but i'd still like to enjoy a steak with a salad every now and then, and let my descendants do too. Not expecting a LePen traitor to have nuance or intelligence.
I agree with you. But GBAtemp has been sliding in a reactionary direction for years due to the influence of bad actors, and nothing has been or will be done about it. So if you're not going to resolve the problem, this is the next best thing.
And empirically I can tell you that it worked at first. Even compared to now it was so much worse back then.
"topics," "opinions," and "views," here mean bigotry
like, you're a bigot. no, i don't want you here. i don't want you in any of my spaces. i'm neurodivergent and pansexual, i've been subject to hate crimes from people like you my whole life. you advocate and work toward a world where i'm oppressed for existing. i don't feel bad for saying that you should be cut out like the cancer you are. we'd be happier without you.
It's the intolerance of others opinions. I'm ok with all of you having any opinion you want. I don't have to agree. I don't want you censored or removed for your views.
You all, on the other hand, want exactly that about opinions not your own. Which is why you're all bigots. Many such cases, sad!
Greetings, good men! For a Dark_Ansem: You have a somewhat biased view as I see it. I closely follow the situation in the States (they are leading the trend worldwide after all), and I would like to ask a question, what is "demonising trans people" in Trump's policy? (Luckily the ts trend is not popular with my people)
As for climate treaties - it's useless. Our technological progress will end the ecosystem of this planet anyway, it is better to be concerned about spreading our species to other territories as soon as possible.
On the insulin issue, as far as I know the $35 monthly cap on insulin is not affected by Trump's decision. (If I'm wrong, please clarify the source with the correct information)
What about the WHO? They have been failing in their proper duties and making highly speculative decisions in recent years, so it's not surprising that Trump has decided to throw off that yoke.
And you know, this planet is ******, it's natural, the costs of progress. The important thing is that our descendants get the fuf out in time to take up residence in more suitable conditions.
For a Dark_Ansem: You have a somewhat biased view as I see it. I closely follow the situation in the States (they are leading the trend worldwide after all), and I would like to ask a question, what is "demonising trans people" in Trump's policy? (Luckily the ts trend is not popular with my people)
As I see it, you have a biased view too. You as an Ukraininan should be terrified of a Trump presidency since he's Putin lapdog. I guess you are probably one of them Putin Quislings. I guess you don't follow the sitaution enough. Also, "TS trend" isn't a thing: trans people exist, always have and always will. Deal with it.
As for climate treaties - it's useless. Our technological progress will end the ecosystem of this planet anyway, it is better to be concerned about spreading our species to other territories as soon as possible.
This is such a stupid take: it's much easier to preserve the ecosystem of the planet than to colonise MARS. We don't even have FTL or even close to light travel and somehow you think it's easier than stop polluting the earth? Are you that dumb or unreasonably optimistic?
On the insulin issue, as far as I know the $35 monthly cap on insulin is not affected by Trump's decision. (If I'm wrong, please clarify the source with the correct information)
Well you're wrong, as his executive order is so sweeping that it touches that. Now, while SOME states may rectify that, it is too early to say if Dump will simply override them or bury them in legal paperwork. More importantly, other States won't do anything about it.
What about the WHO? They have been failing in their proper duties and making highly speculative decisions in recent years, so it's not surprising that Trump has decided to throw off that yoke.
I'm sorry, are you an expert in making health decisions? Do you have any knowledge of medicine? Show your medicine degree, enlighten us with what you think WHO should have done better - WITHOUT hindsight.
The only reason Dump pulled out is because they criticised how horribly he handled covid, and he is a petty, spiteful man.
And you know, this planet is ******, it's natural, the costs of progress. The important thing is that our descendants get the fuf out in time to take up residence in more suitable conditions.
No. This is utterly, completely false. The US has enough desert areas where there is literally nothing to plant solar and wind farms to sustain its energy needs, for example. Nevada, Utah, Oregon, TEXAS: so much desert space which could be put to use WITH NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
And to clarify: it's not the planet that is "***". It's US. The planet can and will endure without us.
Also you're an account with 2 messages so you're suspicious by default. Probably an alt of the idiots that hang here.
GBATemp Staff: Why does this section exist? There is almost no debate here. It's all reactionaries and people who can't stop themselves from engaging with them. All claims and no substance. No back and forth. Just forth, and forth, and forth. It's toxic to the bone. Nobody actually likes this section.
That's like saying "On 4chan, /pol/ makes sure that discussions on /v/ stay apolitical".
The alternative would be stricter moderation. But then again, people put culture war ragebait into their signatures and nobody cares. The AC Shadows delayed thread took 2-3 days to get "trans people are all rapists and scream in tiktok videos" (lol) to be removed. A wojak avatar news section culture war regular even signed up for patron to put ragebait into their title.
Tolerating these people doesn't contain them, it attracts more of them and emboldens them.
That's part of answering your own question. But mostly, if these threads and this section of the site didn't exist, political threads and debates would be everywhere. Better contain most of such 'discussions' (because yeah, it's just throwing dejections at each other and seeing what sticks) in one place in order to keep an eye on it, than having to search and destroy such threads everywhere.
Just sip coffee, take bets and watch chaos unfold. It's more entertaining that it looks like, and it isn't like most of us would have enough power to actually influence such a decision. Most people voted for Trump, he's in, and while the results can be disastrous for USA, the majority chose him willingly. So the majority will pay the price for their choice, be it good or bad.
At least I hope it won't be worse than whatever Macron is doing with France.
That's part of answering your own question. But mostly, if these threads and this section of the site didn't exist, political threads and debates would be everywhere. Better contain most of such 'discussions' (because yeah, it's just throwing dejections at each other and seeing what sticks) in one place in order to keep an eye on it, than having to search and destroy such threads everywhere.
Just sip coffee, take bets and watch chaos unfold. It's more entertaining that it looks like, and it isn't like most of us would have enough power to actually influence such a decision. Most people voted for Trump, he's in, and while the results can be disastrous for USA, the majority chose him willingly. So the majority will pay the price for their choice, be it good or bad.
At least I hope it won't be worse than whatever Macron is doing with France.
Idk man, I just don't like hanging out in bars where the backroom regulars discuss how to best genocide me.
You don't really have to destroy the threads all the time if you find the warn and ban buttons in your moderation tools, but idk, maybe they're broken on GBATemp.
On the WHO part, I will say this: These restards managed to freak up the start of the epidemic in 2014 when they could have stopped it early on. But no, they decided to scratch their balls before the virus started to end poor people in batches.
And that's not all. When the cov pandemic started, those WHO summer boiz first said everything was OK, and then they started talking some talks about masks not being necessary and the virus not being transmitted from person to person. Well, when everything became obvious, they started sniffing China's b*** instead of telling the truth about the origin of the virus.
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Oi! About China! Those WHO boiz are so tied up with pharma companies and political interests that they would sell their souls for a few yuan. I wouldn't be surprised if they promote some fairy pills instead of normal medicines, just because they're paid to do so.
And yes, they still can't properly address mental troubles and non-communicable diseases, even though it's been the number one problem in the civil world for a while now. But no, it's better to keep cissing away money on **** instead of actually helping people.
Basically, WHO is just a bunch of simpletons who can't do anything right. I apologise for the high tone of speech.
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"No. This is utterly, completely false. The US has enough desert areas where there is literally nothing to plant solar and wind farms to sustain its energy needs, for example. Nevada, Utah, Oregon, TEXAS: so much desert space which could be put to use WITH NO ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT."
I'm not well versed in the geographical features of north america and geological specifics, so I'll leave that information at that.
"And to clarify: it's not the planet that is "***". It's US. The planet can and will endure without us."
And to clarify on my regard:
Without humanity, this planet is a meaningless piece of rock floating in space.
Mankind above all!
"Also you're an account with 2 messages so you're suspicious by default. Probably an alt of the id@ots that hang here."
Understandable, no offence taken. I actually came here for HD textures for COD3 on PS2 (, saw the discussion in the column on the right, decided to break in with two feet.
"It's not a country issue, as anyone should know: it's a Corpo issue."
Certainly, yet under the current world order they are our only effective engine of progress, even though it's not productive for Humanity as a whole.
Sorry about the reply format, the twat filter...
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The great filter. I don't know in my heart what's on that ban list of it, I'm fucking tired to rewrite this crap
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You don't happen to have a brother named Fiar, do you? You two seem to have the same IQ. All you have to do is start sending gifs of people shitting themselves and scenes of nazis from films.
Ironic for you to be handing out so many Ls considering your PFP. Or maybe it's fitting? After all, he did hand L the L.
The world is full of self-destructive people who - at the marching orders of uber-rich plutocrats - LARP as "hating autocrats" while unironically waving every flag that autocrats order them to wave. Palestine! Pride! Hammer and Sickle! "Queer Good, Detransitioner Bad." "Qur'an Good, Bible Bad." People who are so upjumped on their oikophobia that they're legitimately angry that someone else who is vaguely pale isn't starving. Those who don't realise the problem with Nazism is the zi, not the na. They were socialists, and this is why they were awful. Their nationalism was feigned - they had zero problem replacing problem Germans with, for example, Muslims.
Unless, of course, "Nazi" no longer means "National Socialist" but is instead just some kind of dogwhistle... like what Racism, Exist, Belonging, Diversity, Inclusion, and even Dogwhistle itself have become. The only thing a cult hates more than nonbelievers understanding their thieves' cant is apostasy.
The world is full of self-destructive people who - at the marching orders of uber-rich plutocrats - LARP as "hating autocrats" while unironically waving every flag that autocrats order them to wave. Palestine! Pride! Hammer and Sickle! "Queer Good, Detransitioner Bad." "Qur'an Good, Bible Bad." People who are so upjumped on their oikophobia that they're legitimately angry that someone else who is vaguely pale isn't starving. Those who don't realise the problem with Nazism is the zi, not the na. They were socialists, and this is why they were awful. Their nationalism was feigned - they had zero problem replacing problem Germans with, for example, Muslims.
No they were not. And it took 5 seconds to clarify, which is still 5 seconds more than it usually takes you to finish. An AI that can't add 2+3 is smarter than you.
Unless, of course, "Nazi" no longer means "National Socialist" but is instead just some kind of dogwhistle... like what Racism, Exist, Belonging, Diversity, Inclusion, and even Dogwhistle itself have become. The only thing a cult hates more than nonbelievers understanding their thieves' cant is apostasy.
I'm sorry, you calling yourself N7Kopper means that you are somehow a Mass Effect Policeman? no? you're telling me that you labelled yourself as something that you're not?
Then again, you're of subhuman intelligence. Shakespeare explaind this really well: "A Rose, by any other name, would Smell as Sweet". Rather than the desperation you show being attached at the label trying to score points for your political side, I follow the "duck" principle: if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Not a rhinoceros, doesn't matter whatever its name is."
The only explanation for you being so desperate to paint the nazi as socialists is that you're a Nazi trying to whitewash yourself. No bleach will work for you, however, so stop trying.
Not me personally, of course. This was pointed out by Oleksandr Tkachenko in his interwiew to tv channel Inter (also broadcast on STB and UNIAN) and by Dmitry Gordon as well in his media (В гостях у Гордона)
I don't really care for blocking you, I've literally only blocked one person here (well two, but one is gone). If you want to do it to me, go ahead, your contributions are Imperium of Men fantasies anyway and I can always read the original.
Man, for Lenin's sake, I'm not going to block you, I'm all for free speech. I just see that you don't like to communicate with me and from such a low level format of dialogue I also experience certain frustrations. That's why I've decided that if we both don't like to communicate, we should just stop.
YOU replied to ME first, remember?
Low level format is having to deal with you, that can obviously not speak english properly and somehow think you have the authority to spew your fiction on things far bigger than you are. You do show some humility however which is good.
Idk man, I just don't like hanging out in bars where the backroom regulars discuss how to best genocide me.
You don't really have to destroy the threads all the time if you find the warn and ban buttons in your moderation tools, but idk, maybe they're broken on GBATemp.
As if they could genocide you. People are overreacting to the news and will calm down in a week or two.
Plus, it isn't like the current situation will kill people. Trump has been president once, his decisions didn't lead to the death of millions of people, and everyone claiming he was out to kill them saw the rise and fall of Biden's administration. You aren't in a country where protests end up with people arrested or, worse, with potentially death-inducing injuries the state refuses to heal or cover because they're criticizing the current administration, unlike what happened in France several times in the recent years (Yellow Vests, the agricultural revolts, and a dozen smaller protests that have been swept under the rug).
Calm down, enjoy your coffee and watch the critics. That is all you can do.
Somewhat objectively wrong. His abysmal response to a global pandemic resulted in an extremely disproportionate death rate compared to most countries. Under Trump 24% of the world's covid 19 deaths occurred in the US which is only home to 4% of the world's population. So not millions, and we were always going to see some covid deaths but his decisions and inactions certainly lead to nearly a million unnecessary deaths.
MAGAs here already reject this data, which is why I continue to say you might as well be arguing with a flat earther.
Plus, it isn't like the current situation will kill people. Trump has been president once, his decisions didn't lead to the death of millions of people
You aren't in a country where protests end up with people arrested or, worse, with potentially death-inducing injuries the state refuses to heal or cover because they're criticizing the current administration, unlike what happened in France several times in the recent years (Yellow Vests, the agricultural revolts, and a dozen smaller protests that have been swept under the rug).
Wow you are basically wrong on everything, including the nonsense about the yellow vests which was literally plastered throughout the news across all Europe, and then on Xitter.
Somewhat objectively wrong. His abysmal response to a global pandemic resulted in an extremely disproportionate death rate compared to most countries. Under Trump 24% of the world's covid 19 deaths occurred in the US which is only home to 4% of the world's population. So not millions, and we were always going to see some covid deaths but his decisions and inactions certainly lead to nearly a million unnecessary deaths.
MAGAs here already reject this data, which is why I continue to say you might as well be arguing with a flat earther.
Covid has been extremely badly taken care everywhere.
The illness was known since three months before the first cases erupted in China, and six months before they erupted outside of it, but very few countries have taken the appropriate measures to deal with it. And as a result, millions have died everywhere around the world.
In addition, this isn't only Trump's responsibility. Health care services all around USA responded badly to the virus, many people just didn't care about doing what was need to reduce its progression, and while he could have answered better, the blow wouldn't have been reduced that much, and those who were on the field are just as gulity as him for that.
I am once again coming to you to say attack the position, not the person. Keep in mind you are trying to address the issues, and you have a right to your own opinion but not a right to your own facts. Personal attacks will receive a [snip], or the entire post will be deleted. Eventually, you will receive warnings.
So. Deep breath. you're trying to convince other folks who are reading the back and forth, not necessarily the person you're talking with. Define terms, cite where you can, and be polite and avoid strawmen.
Covid has been extremely badly taken care everywhere.
The illness was known since three months before the first cases erupted in China, and six months before they erupted outside of it, but very few countries have taken the appropriate measures to deal with it. And as a result, millions have died everywhere around the world.
In addition, this isn't only Trump's responsibility. Health care services all around USA responded badly to the virus, many people just didn't care about doing what was need to reduce its progression, and while he could have answered better, the blow wouldn't have been reduced that much, and those who were on the field are just as gulity as him for that.
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