How to set up ISFShax + Stroopwafel

SDIO · Nov 5, 2023

Try uploading the fw.img again.
Can you show a screenshot of how you set up the files on the slc?

fvig2001 · Nov 5, 2023

Here are the screenshots. This was done using Patch (sd) and boot IOS (slc)->tiramisu->ftp, which boots up my actual nand. I probably will be able to check again probably after 24 hours since it's pretty late here.

The strange thing for me was that the folders and files were already there. I had refreshed winscp to make sure it was correct. I had retried it and still orange with sd card removed.

Is there an effect if I stupidly did this instruction on the rednand first?

Thanks

XDeltaOne · Nov 5, 2023

SDIO said:
Yes, Aroma and Tiramisu work as usual (and you don't even need sigpatches, as that is already done by stroopwafel)

If I used Aroma Autoboot, is it okay if I leave the setup as is or do I then remove Autoboot because of the Rednand?

SDIO · Nov 5, 2023

Did you make sure to upload the files in binary mode and not in ASCII Mode?

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XDeltaOne said:
If I used Aroma Autoboot, is it okay if I leave the setup as is or do I then remove Autoboot because of the Rednand?

You can leave it. If you only do MLC redirection and do the rebuild MLC step it will actually remove the aroma autoboot, when the Wii u menu is installed. But there is no harm in reenabeling it after.
The only problem you could run into when doing MLC only redirection is, that you have tiramisu only installed in the redNAND with enabled autoboot and then try to boot the sys nand (or vice versa) then it will boot straight into the H&S app and you can't escape it. But then that can be easily fixed by just removing the autoboot again, so I wouldn't worry about that.

CrazySquid · Nov 5, 2023

Amazing! Just a question, but will this allow us to restore both MLC and SLC? Just like the Wii with BootMii could restore it's NAND?

SDIO · Nov 5, 2023

Yes it is possible to restore the NAND, but it is risky and more complicated because of SCFM, so that should only be the last resort. You should always ask before restoring the backup in almost all cases there is a safer way.

Things to keep in mind while restoring:

If the SLC backup didn't already have ISFShax installed, you will loose ISFShax by restoring and leaving you in a potential bricked state.
The SLC holds a cache for the MLC, so you generally need to backup and restore both together. You would first restore the MLC and immediately after the SLC. The only exception to that is if the backup was taken using the recovery, in that case you can restore the MLC alone and then delete SCFM.img using minute.
To restore the SLC you need an Image which includes the spare data, this image is 528MiB big. The rednand slc partitions are without this spare data, these are only 512MiB. Same for the SLC.bin from the recovery dumper, it doesn't have the spare data. The spare data can be rebuild using the PC tool nandFixer
restore redNAND in minute only restores the MLC, not the SLC

eof07 · Nov 6, 2023

SDIO said:
Make sure you have the right fw.img file on the SD. The one wich is NOT encrypted

that worked help is much appreciated thx

XDeltaOne · Nov 7, 2023

SDIO said:
Yes it is possible to restore the NAND, but it is risky and more complicated because of SCFM, so that should only be the last resort. You should always ask before restoring the backup in almost all cases there is a safer way.

Things to keep in mind while restoring:

If the SLC backup didn't already have ISFShax installed, you will loose ISFShax by restoring and leaving you in a potential bricked state.

The SLC holds a cache for the MLC, so you generally need to backup and restore both together. You would first restore the MLC and immediately after the SLC. The only exception to that is if the backup was taken using the recovery, in that case you can restore the MLC alone and then delete SCFM.img using minute.

To restore the SLC you need an Image which includes the spare data, this image is 528MiB big. The rednand slc partitions are without this spare data, these are only 512MiB. Same for the SLC.bin from the recovery dumper, it doesn't have the spare data. The spare data can be rebuild using the PC tool nandFixer

restore redNAND in minute only restores the MLC, not the SLC

Hey, I'm sorry that I have to ask such a stupid question again, but I created a rednand over a minute, but when I want to boot it I always get stuck in the Wii U logo, can you help me with that, I have one more question: can I enlarge the MLC Nand? And for some reason the Wii U became slower when I loaded normally using the Nand.

SDIO · Nov 7, 2023

XDeltaOne said:
Hey, I'm sorry that I have to ask such a stupid question again, but I created a rednand over a minute, but when I want to boot it I always get stuck in the Wii U logo

did I get you right, that you were using the "format rednand" option in minute and then configured mlc and slc to true in the ini and left scfm enabled? (best would be if you show your rednand.ini) If all that is true then there seems to be a problem with the format rednand, as someone else is having the same problem.
For now you can set up a fresh MLC, for taht format the mlc partition to NTFS, disable scfm in the ini and run the MLC setup like described in the tutorial.

XDeltaOne said:
can I enlarge the MLC Nand?

Only while reformatting and reinstalling it. But for now it looks like you have to do that anyway. Till the format problem is investigated.

XDeltaOne said:
And for some reason the Wii U became slower when I loaded normally using the Nand.

What exactly do you mean by that? What is taking longer?

XDeltaOne · Nov 8, 2023

SDIO said:
did I get you right, that you were using the "format rednand" option in minute and then configured mlc and slc to true in the ini and left scfm enabled? (best would be if you show your rednand.ini) If all that is true then there seems to be a problem with the format rednand, as someone else is having the same problem.
For now you can set up a fresh MLC, for taht format the mlc partition to NTFS, disable scfm in the ini and run the MLC setup like described in the tutorial.

Only while reformatting and reinstalling it. But for now it looks like you have to do that anyway. Till the format problem is investigated.

What exactly do you mean by that? What is taking longer?

I used this config.
[partitions]
slccmpt=true
slc=true
mlc=true
[scfm] disable=false
allow_sys=false

I noticed that the homebrew on my Wii U takes longer to load, but I think it's Aroma.

fate6 · Nov 8, 2023

SDIO said:
as someone else is having the same problem.

Chiming in that I also formatted rednand with minute and enabled all partitions and scfm but get stuck on the wii u logo, swapped back to just running slc but wanted rednand working to try and mess around with converting my JP system into an NA one.

XDeltaOne · Nov 8, 2023

SDIO said:
did I get you right, that you were using the "format rednand" option in minute and then configured mlc and slc to true in the ini and left scfm enabled? (best would be if you show your rednand.ini) If all that is true then there seems to be a problem with the format rednand, as someone else is having the same problem.
For now you can set up a fresh MLC, for taht format the mlc partition to NTFS, disable scfm in the ini and run the MLC setup like described in the tutorial.

Only while reformatting and reinstalling it. But for now it looks like you have to do that anyway. Till the format problem is investigated.

What exactly do you mean by that? What is taking longer?

I saw that you can delete this file SCFM with minute, are you sure it's easy?

JIaroJIy4 · Nov 8, 2023

Sorry for dumbass question - probably it's addressed at minute environment or de_fuse - have anybody tested overclocking the GPU? Question is - is there even any benefit in 3D titles or in 99,5% cases system is bottlenecked by the CPU?
I can potentially test it (Wii U is attached to 144Hz capable capture card), but I just wonder if it has any real merit.

Lapin · Nov 9, 2023

SDIO said:
Try uploading the fw.img again.
Can you show a screenshot of how you set up the files on the slc?

I'm having the same issue. I managed to install ISFShax, then replace the fw.img with the non-encrypted one and when I boot I don't see anything on the screen and the gamepad won't connect. I have every required file on the root of the SD and the stroopwafel ones on the required folder. Help.

SDIO · Nov 9, 2023

XDeltaOne said:
I saw that you can delete this file SCFM with minute, are you sure it's easy?

No don't delete it. Disable scfm via the ini.

JIaroJIy4 said:
probably it's addressed at minute environment or de_fuse - have anybody tested overclocking the GPU? Question is - is there even any benefit in 3D titles or in 99,5% cases system is bottlenecked by the CPU?

I am not sure if that requires defuse, haven't looked into it. But from what I saw it can improve the performance of certain games like BoW

Lapin said:
I managed to install ISFShax, then replace the fw.img with the non-encrypted one and when I boot I don't see anything on the screen

Try copying the file again. Make sure it is the right (not the encrypted) one. Savely Eject it in Windows, not just remove it.

If nothing of that helps try a file system check on the card (and coping the file again after the check) and if that doesn't help, try another card.

XDeltaOne · Nov 9, 2023

SDIO said:
No don't delete it. Disable scfm via the ini.

I am not sure if that requires defuse, haven't looked into it. But from what I saw it can improve the performance of certain games like BoW

Try copying the file again. Make sure it is the right (not the encrypted) one. Savely Eject it in Windows, not just remove it.

If nothing of that helps try a file system check on the card (and coping the file again after the check) and if that doesn't help, try another card.

Hi, I wouldn't have done that easily either because it would have been too risky for me anyway.

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Can I also deactivate it on the internal storage?

SDIO · Nov 9, 2023

Deactivating it would require a format of the internal storage and always running with the no scfm patch. Once the mlc was booted once with scfm on, it need the scfm.
Guess you could do a rednand config which redirects no partition, but disables scfm and then erase the MLC to reinstall it, but I didn't test that. There is also the wafel_unlimit_mlc.ipx stroopwafel plugin, which also disables scfm and gives you an extra GB of storage or so.
But I don't recommend disabeling scfm on the internal storage

Lapin · Nov 10, 2023

SDIO said:
Try copying the file again. Make sure it is the right (not the encrypted) one. Savely Eject it in Windows, not just remove it.

If nothing of that helps try a file system check on the card (and coping the file again after the check) and if that doesn't help, try another card.

Thanks, but none of this worked. I managed to sort out that it boots into minute but I don't have any image on the TV or gamepad. By pressing the power button twice and then the eject button I can go to the correct option (3) and it boots into the WiiU menu. I'm now trying to see if I can progress with the tutorial for fixing the memory error 160-0103 but having a screenshot of the minute menu would really be helpful because I can't see what I'm doing.
EDIT: I managed to progress a little by going in blindly but the "Booting without SD" part doesn't work for me. The sys directory didn't exist in the /storage_slc, so I had to create it (not sure if I should). I copied the files and followed the instructions but if I select the first option in the minute menu, Patch (slc) and boot IOS (slc), the WiiU doesn't boot. The third option, Patch (sd) and boot IOS (slc), works.
I'm now considering uninstalling ISFShax but I can't without a video or full description of what options to choose, because, again, I can't see anything on the minute menu.
EDIT2: After much experimenting, I did find a way to see the minute menu. If I select the third option, I can enter the WiiU menu, which has Tiramisu installed. Now pressing B while entering the health and safety app I can see the environment loader and from there choose fw_img_loader and now the minute menu is visible. Doesn't sort out the problem but it's a fix.

SDIO · Nov 10, 2023

That's probably a problem with the display init specific to your TV. When you launch it from the fw_img_loader the DIsplay was already initialized by IOSU.
The problem with screenshot would be that they become outdated as I add features.
For each release of minute you can find the commit on left, for the now current release it says 7aeece8 for example. If you click on that it brings you to the commot and there you can cllick browse files. You can then go to the source folder where you find the main.c

In the main.c you find the definition of the main menu, something like that:

Code:

   {
            {"Patch (slc) and boot IOS (slc)", &main_quickboot_patch_slc},
            {"Patch (sd) and boot IOS redNAND", &main_quickboot_patch_rednand},
            {"Patch (sd) and boot IOS (slc)", &main_quickboot_patch}, // options
            {"Patch (sd) and boot sdmc:/ios_orig.img", &main_swapboot_patch}, // options
            {"Patch (sd) and boot sdmc:/ios_orig.img redNAND", &main_swapboot_patch_rednand},
            {"Boot 'ios.img'", &main_quickboot_fw},
            {"Boot IOP firmware file", &main_boot_fw},
            {"Boot PowerPC ELF file", &main_boot_ppc},
            {"Backup and Restore", &dump_menu_show},
            {"Interactive debug console", &main_interactive_console},
            {"PRSH tweaks", &prsh_menu},
            {"Display crash log", &main_get_crash},
            {"Clear crash log", &main_reset_crash},
            {"Restart minute", &main_reload},
            {"Hardware reset", &main_reset},
            {"Power off", &main_shutdown},
            {"Credits", &main_credits},
            //{"ISFS test", &isfs_test},
    },
    15, // number of options
    0,
    0
};

Also note I had set the number of options to 15 instead of 17 in that release, so the menu will miss the last two options.

You find a similar definition of the Backup and Restore sub menu in the dump.c. But when dumping you also have to confirm a few things sometimes. So you would need to look a the code to know when to press which button...

CrazySquid · Nov 11, 2023

Hm... I think it's impossible for ISFSHax to work with Quick Start Menu and standby features?

Warning

Update

What is this for?

Wafel Installer

Choosing the Exploit

Preparing the SD card

Launching into minute

Backup

Installing ISFShax

Backup ISFShax (Optional)

Booting

Autobooting with SD

Installing Aroma / Tiramisu

Optional: Installing Plugins to SLC (instead of SD)

Optional: Fastbooting (Advanced)

Updating ISFShax

Installing System Updates

Which files can be removed?

Uninstalling ISFShax

Plugins

Description of the Files

Credits

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