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Wa new update :evil: It will be a good news for a good day :yay3ds: i think i could buy next GW products in the future, they really have a good support for their product till now
 
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I don't think you've had to use a Gateway to know what a shitty company they are. I mean hell, if there is any truth to that video posted by @zoogie it's clear they don't give a rats ass about their customers anyway. Which is only confirmed in their business practices, like bricking anyone who used a different launcher.dat file, or even a corrupted one in some cases, knowingly doesn't have firm protection when they could have had it long ago, absolutely no priority to their customers by updates taking months. I don't think "continued support" is a good enough argument when their support is bullshit anyway. Especially with other options that are free, updated almost in realtime and have working support as well. Gateway may have set a precedent, but it's very clear they aren't going to do the same anytime soon, if ever again with the way they are going now. I'm just an observer.

EDIT: Okay well the video is a farce, I know but it's still the attitude that rings throughout their product.
 
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There is no doubt that what Gateway did for the 3DS scene has absolutely been helpful, and many of things we're capable of with CFWs probably wouldn't be possible without the work that the Gateway team put in.

CFW would have surfaced with or without them, as the community has done a lot more and has more talented coders, instead of some triad group in some disused warehouse in Guangdong Provience, which is were my console probably got lost in.
 
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Since they are hosting their project on github, it's easy to grab the source from any release.
I don't know how Gateway manage that, but it's pretty much "no backup"
Hell, they should at least use some form of version control, even if it is a local or private repository. If they don't... well. I don't know what to say to that. lul
 

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CFW would have surfaced with or without them, as the community has done a lot more and has more talented coders, instead of some triad group in some disused warehouse in Guangdong Provience, which is were my console probably got lost in.
Maybe so. There's no confirmation that yellows8 and other closed source devs would have ever released their exploits, but Gateway served as the first confirmation that the 3DS could even BE hacked, aside from ichtfly's MSET exploit and a frozen progress bar on a certain overhyped flashcarts page.

What you say may be true, but it's a discernable fact that a good chunk of coders in the modern 3DS hacking era wouldn't be anywhere without the groundwork layed out for them by Gateway. Even the newly released safefirmlaunchhax has ties to Gateway as it's the sister exploit to the original firmlaunchhax that was documented because of the reverse engineering of Gateway.

With all this in mind though, one thing is clear. CFW reinvented the Gateway wheel, and in turn created a.. uhm.. a better wheel? Sure yeah, a better wheel.

(also lmao at that last part, sorry about your brick m8, your lost 3ds will be remembered forever)
 
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Most of us who have a Gateway do also use free CFW such as Luma and even use Luma as our main CFW. We just still have our Gateway cards from back in the day so we use them essentially as a second SD card slot.
 

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What's funny is how people mock Gateway when they're the ones who gave you everything you have today. I fully agree that Gateway is basically useless right now (save for their vastly superior cheat system), but the fact remains that Gateway:

1.) Gave us the first proper method to load back ups.
2.) Gave us the first way to access 9.2+ games, ESPECIALLY games like FE:If.
3.) Gave us the cheat menu.

I'd be at least somewhat thankful, and rather impressed that they even bother to continue giving support to the card.
I am not mocking them. What I said is actually true. Gateway's CFW was once broken by an OFW update and they spend well over 2 months before making an announcement that they were working on it.
 

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I don't think you've had to use a Gateway to know what a shitty company they are. I mean hell, if there is any truth to that video posted by @zoogie it's clear they don't give a rats ass about their customers anyway. Which is only confirmed in their business practices, like bricking anyone who used a different launcher.dat file, or even a corrupted one in some cases, knowingly doesn't have firm protection when they could have had it long ago, absolutely no priority to their customers by updates taking months. I don't think "continued support" is a good enough argument when their support is bullshit anyway. Especially with other options that are free, updated almost in realtime and have working support as well. Gateway may have set a precedent, but it's very clear they aren't going to do the same anytime soon, if ever again with the way they are going now. I'm just an observer.

EDIT: Okay well the video is a farce, I know but it's still the attitude that rings throughout their product.

About the brick, they didn't really bricked other consoles. They just put a protection. The fault are from the clones which didn't break the protection properly when they modified the "Launcher.dat" to reuse it for themselves.

You wouldn't say it's Nintendo fault if you brick your 3DS because you used something not authorised, right?

But yeah, for newcomers, Gateway is pretty useless now.

Because if they didn't, there'd be a witch hunt by those who spent £50 - £80 on the card in the first place.

Sky3DS did it twice, and I haven't seen any witch hunt.
 
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About the brick, they didn't really bricked other consoles. They just put a protection. The fault are from the clones which didn't break the protection properly when they modified the "Launcher.dat" to reuse it for themselves.
Even as somebody who owns a Gateway, I don't buy this. Gateway put code in which specifically targetted clones and intentionally bricked consoles using those clones knowing full well that clone compabies would miss the malicious code. It's not a case of the consoles being bricked due to the clone's poor compatibility, Gateway intentionally bricked consoles by planting brick code.

This is not an acceptable way to 'protect' your product, and Nintendo would rightly be roasted over the coals if they pulled a similar stunt. What if Nintendo put brick code into a new firmware update which targetted any console with an arm9loaderhax.bin file on their SD card, for example? Would that be acceptable?
 
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(also lmao at that last part, sorry about your brick m8, your lost 3ds will be remembered forever)

Lol, it was my one and only first that I bonded with from day 1:cry:

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Even as somebody who owns a Gateway, I don't buy this. Gateway put code in which specifically targetted clones and intentionally bricked consoles using those clones knowing full well that clone compabies would miss the malicious code. It's not a case of the consoles being bricked due to the clone's poor compatibility, Gateway intentionally bricked consoles by planting brick code.

You are forgetting one thing though, the brick code (BSOD) was randomly triggered in their version 2.02b when using the diagnostics test on Legitmate GW cards.
 

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Even as somebody who owns a Gateway, I don't buy this. Gateway put code in which specifically targetted clones and intentionally bricked consoles using those clones knowing full well that clone compabies would miss the malicious code. It's not a case of the consoles being bricked due to the clone's poor compatibility, Gateway intentionally bricked consoles by planting brick code.

This is not an acceptable way to 'protect' your product, and Nintendo would rightly be roasted over the coals if they pulled a similar stunt. What if Nintendo put brick code into a new firmware update which targetted any console with an arm9loaderhax.bin file on their SD card, for example? Would that be acceptable?
Just FYI, you are both right.

There were 2 seperate incidents. The whole intentional bricking thing was the first one. The protection thing was the second (last year I believe) where super card didn't do a good job breaking that protection to be used in their cards. So users who used a non proper launcher.dat on the supercard's flashcart bricked.

Obviously the first incident was a disasterous choice no matter how you look at it, not sure what they were really thinking. The second incident though isn't their fault. It was supercard's fault. It like installing psp firmware on a ps4 and just wonder why it bricked
 
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Just when I thought we were having the most civil GW thread ever, we once again delve into the ethics debate. Like many other pertaining to ethics, isn't a simple 0/1, yes/no, black/white thing. I guess it's like a spectrum. All I can say is rather than do this yet again for the umpteenth time, let's just put that behind us and see what they have to offer when they actually get to it.
 

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I don't give a fuck about Gateway and their 80$ bricking devices but please don't ever compare hackers who offers their code, exploits and technical specs for free with those greedy motherfuckers.
 

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