Your reason for being a pirate

[Vipera]

more blahblah

All right, let me just repeat this one last time. After this, I will assume you are just trolling.
Publishers invest the money for the game, developers make the money for the game. Scalpers buy all the games so they will be sold-out and you have to buy from them at a premium price that goes nowhere but some fat bastard. The first thing is avoidable by crowdfunding, the last one is avoidable by either making the rare game available/remaking the game or by pirating it if no publisher or dev is selling it anymore. You are not paying the creators and the investors. I am not paying some tax fraud. Is deciding to not fund scalpers a crime? Of course not, you are just looking for any excuse to put me at your level. But I'm nowhere near yours, because I don't pirate stuff I can buy. And if I don't have the money (that happens a lot), I just don't buy it. Not a big deal.

dude cant we all just . . . get a bong lol

Of course, you are a pothead too. All right, I'm done talking to you. Go smoke your stuff, kid.

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Nintendo's got money in the bank. Shawty what you drank

wat

 

[amoulton]

wat

By the time a game is out Nintendo has already paid the devs and they are starting to recoup their costs. (Nintendo can incidentally afford to lose money for like a million years but that's a separate point entirely) Non-nintendo games notwithstanding (also notworthplaying IMHO) After paying for a Wii U, extra controllers, Super Mario 3d land, Mario Kart, Wii Fit U, Pikmin 3, Mario Maker, Super Smash brothers, and Splatoon- they've made a net profit from me whether or not I eventually pirate Wooly World- since the cost of development has long since been accounted for.

It's the same way Apple Music works- I could theoretically sign up for an unlimited number of 90 day trials, and the artists would get paid because it's in their contract- while Apple can afford to lose the like 8 cents or whatever per stream (the IP) because they make stacks on stacks on stacks selling laptops and headphones (hardware)

Freedompop is built on this model- they give out free cell service and 51% of the users never pay for LTE, because their data costs are amortized by the 49% of users who do subscribe to paid services (and whatever they can make selling $40 smartphones)

Is deciding to not fund scalpers a crime? Of course not, you are just looking for any excuse to put me at your level. But I'm nowhere near yours, because I don't pirate stuff I can buy.

Obviously you are into pirating stuff you *can* buy, you just can't deal with the rising costs associated with scarcity. Supply and demand is a pretty fundamental facet of our economic systems- Do you send $50 to your favorite dev to relieve your karmic debt or is a bullshit justification just a bullshit justification.

 

[wormdood]

All right, let me just repeat this one last time. After this, I will assume you are just trolling.
Publishers invest the money for the game, developers make the money for the game. Scalpers buy all the games so they will be sold-out and you have to buy from them at a premium price that goes nowhere but some fat bastard. The first thing is avoidable by crowdfunding, the last one is avoidable by either making the rare game available/remaking the game or by pirating it if no publisher or dev is selling it anymore. You are not paying the creators and the investors. I am not paying some tax fraud. Is deciding to not fund scalpers a crime? Of course not, you are just looking for any excuse to put me at your level. But I'm nowhere near yours, because I don't pirate stuff I can buy. And if I don't have the money (that happens a lot), I just don't buy it. Not a big deal.
your previous example about the nes game was better by the way
you fail to see that i see this and have seen this in what you are saying the whole time but my point is beyond your point. even in this event the dev still gets his cash just not from you directly (as if your dollars end up directly in his hands) hence my "kraft rant" the fat bastard scalper pays that publisher/dev fee (unless he hijacked all the truck with gta5 before they got to the store) and in exchange he tries to make some cash as well there are other acceptable occupations similar to this tho like a stock broker or investment banker but "alas they have zero to do with your gaming theft" so im sure they "dont count" or "i must simply be a troll" and as i said and will make more clearly not only do i not care about your personal reason you pirate but i also dont care about the publishers the devs or the fat bastard scalpers the only people in the world i care about are myself and my unborn child
and its no crime (obviously) you can choose to fund whoever you want "and i never said you were = to me in piracy" i mean you cant ride black beards ship with me/some of us but you sometimes still pull your own lil canoe up to the shore to pillage (despite your flawed reasoning) as well because while the dev is paid by the scalper he is never paid by piracy but still you choose to pirate it why? i thought you loved your devs?
and i dont see a problem personally with stealing digital media as they want me to pay $40-$60 usd (or more if "fat bastards" got all the trucks) per new game
Of course, you are a pothead too. All right, I'm done talking to you. Go smoke your stuff, kid.
of all the things you say you "don't" believe this is the only one you truly believe
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wat

edit: they are right you know we have tainted this thread and for that we rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr sorry (or at least i am) so if you wanna continue to argue with me please pm me
2nd edit: i totally did not think anyone was paying us any attention

 

[Hungry Friend]

Why can't we all just agree that emulation is fucking awesome and stop with these ridiculous flame wars? I doubt there's a single person here who's never downloaded ROMs so arguing over details strikes me as pointless and from an outside perspective it looks like just arguing for the sake of arguing. It's not exactly honorable to pirate new games or games being sold at a reasonable price but when it comes to full priced $60 games with DLC and microtrans scams, I can't blame people for pirating them, and quite frankly companies who do that shit deserve to be stolen from. Best thing to do is to boycott games with abusive DLC/pay2win style shit completely but I'm not gonna give someone who pirates those games any shit either.

Even though it's piracy, emulation of arcade games has kept the memories of so many classics alive that would've been long forgotten without emulators like MAME, Kawaks, FBA, Nebula etc. Also before discovering emulation I never imaged I'd be playing SF2, MK1-UMK3, the Konami beat-em-ups etc on my computer. It's still really really cool to me. Hope this post lightens the mood a bit.

 

[VinsCool]

I've bought an actual cartridge of Secret of Mana yesterday, even after finishing the game many times on emulataor. Do I win?

 

[Hungry Friend]

I've bought an actual cartridge of Secret of Mana yesterday, even after finishing the game many times on emulataor. Do I win?

It's been so long since I played my actual SoM cart that I dunno if it even works anymore. I hope it does because I have a save with everyone at lvl 99 with level 9 weapons, including the Mana Sword. From what I can tell there's no legit way to get the lvl9 sword orb; I tried when I was a kid and eventually just used the sword orb glitch. Keep in mind that it does make a certain ability in the final battle very buggy but you can still easily beat the game with the lvl 9 sword.

EDIT: Forgot to mention that I did not make the video I linked to. It's the shortest video of the glitch I could find.

 

[DarkCoffe64]

Because games cost too ****ing much nowadays, especially with all the **** going on here in Italy.
But mostly 'cause I wanna be sure that I'll like what I want to buy, and there's not always a demo available, so...
Also 'cause I'm not gonna buy another freaking console just to get over that bullgunk that is region blocking.
If you're gonna block the game from me 'cause of stupid reasons, then you won't get money from me.

 

[VinsCool]

It's been so long since I played my actual SoM cart that I dunno if it even works anymore. I hope it does because I have a save with everyone at lvl 99 with level 9 weapons, including the Mana Sword. From what I can tell there's no legit way to get the lvl9 sword orb; I tried when I was a kid and eventually just used the sword orb glitch. Keep in mind that it does make a certain ability in the final battle very buggy but you can still easily beat the game with the lvl 9 sword.

I've been using that too, also a OOB glitch since one of my characters, had a missing ability to clib walls.

 

[Bimmel]

I buy games I like. And I buy games I think I could like.

And I buy only retail stuff, since I can sell it again. There are exeptions, but that is when I'm sure it's a hit (Life Is Strange).

Why do I pirate? Don't know. I like to have the full control over my media and there are no restrictions. And it is convient to have everything on one harddrive or flashcard.

I don't want to justify this cause I know it is not possible. I see the lifes and jobs behind a game - so I buy the games I would buy anyway. I even buy game music - and believe me, it is so damn expensive.

 

[WeedZ]

My reason for being a pirate

 

[The Minish LAN]

I pirate if I can't/don't want to buy a game.

Of course, there's not much that I want to (or even CAN) pirate any more.
If I do pirate, I attempt to buy the product later.
If I can't, then I move on with my life.

 

[WeedZ]

I pirate if I can't/don't want to buy a game.

Of course, there's not much that I want to (or even CAN) pirate any more.
If I do pirate, I attempt to buy the product later.
If I can't, then I move on with my life.

Same, most of my roms I actually dumped myself. Not all, but most.

 

[Amadren]

I don't pirate a lot. Usually it's only GBA Games because they can be very expensive.

 

[TVL]

Because it gives me a warm tingeling feeling inside.

 

[Vipera]

Obviously you are into pirating stuff you *can* buy, you just can't deal with the rising costs associated with scarcity. Supply and demand is a pretty fundamental facet of our economic systems- Do you send $50 to your favorite dev to relieve your karmic debt or is a bullshit justification just a bullshit justification.

No, I don't want to give money to some random douchebag who MADE scarcity and is trying to make a taxfree profit. It's different.

 

[Viri]

Because I can, and no moralfag is gonna stop me!

 

[Bimmel]

Because I can, and no moralfag is gonna stop me!

Do you kiss your mom with that mouth? Gross.

 

[Hungry Friend]

No, I don't want to give money to some random douchebag who MADE scarcity and is trying to make a taxfree profit. It's different.

That's a big reason I just DL old, rare games as well. I got lucky in 1999 buying Suikoden 2 while it was still available but there are plenty of rare gems I missed and emulation as a whole is an awesome gift to the gaming community. It allows us to play rare shit for free and helps preserve lost, abandoned classics at the same. Also yeah fuck scalpers.

 

[Tigroid]

With the exception of nearly impossible to find retro games, I don't pirate. I do like to have a digital copy of everything, though. If I buy a movie, book, or video game and I can download a torrent, ebook, or rom, then I will, but I, personally (NOT bashing anyone), would feel too guilty to download things I don't own.

My biggest concern is not piracy, but a much more abhorred part of it;cheat codes. ESPECIALLY ONLINE CHEAT CODES. They make a game totally unplayable and they are the most dangerous abomination ever created!

Agreed, pft, cheaters.

 

[GhostLatte]

Because I'm poor