Xbox Live worth it still?

Discussion in 'General Gaming Discussion' started by ShadowSoldier, May 14, 2013.

?

Xbox Live worth it?

  1. Yes! You get what you pay for

    5 vote(s)
    27.8%
  2. No, other services offer the same stuff for free, and is just as good.

    13 vote(s)
    72.2%
  1. ShadowSoldier
    OP

    ShadowSoldier GBAtemp Guru

    Member
    9,383
    3,300
    Oct 8, 2009
    Canada
    This is a subject that has been brought up in a bunch of threads, but never really had it's own thread/discussion purely about it.

    Who thinks Xbox Live, to this day, is still worth the price?

    People say "you get awesome deals on games, you get cross game chat, servers are more secure, better community" to which I say "Bullshit"


    Here's the thing. I'm just going to compare this against PlayStation Plus, but you can compare it to the likes of Steam or something if you wish.


    You get awesome deals on games? Rarely are they even awesome deals. When you compare it to PS+ You get like 50%-60% and more off of games. And you also get free games every single month, to which Xbox Live.... gives you what for free? Points on your birthday? I'll take the free games every month.

    Cross Game Chat is nice, but I've started to get back into chatting in the game (depending on the game). It's nicer because if I want to play a game and nobody's going to talk, I'll be honest, I might as well just play against bots. Saying the servers are more secure is also a bullshit statement. Xbox Live is hacked to shit. I'm not saying PS+ isn't, but Xbox Live isn't as grand as people make it out to be. With people able to hack accounts, steal credit card information, lag switchers, and others, Xbox Live is no more secure than PS or Nintendo's online. You also can't really say you get a better community, when everybody is basically in party chat or something. You can put Black Ops 1 in the PS3, and still get 100k people playing. Same goes for any game, like Uncharted 3 even.


    So I ask you, is Xbox Live still worth it? I don't think it is. I get all the functions (aside from Cross Game Chat) on my PS3 (again you can use Steam or whatever you like) as you would on the Xbox Live for free. Functions like being able to play online for free, which should be a standard. Even Nintendo's WiiU does it and the online in that is great. Access apps that you already pay for (Hulu, Netflix, etc).
     
  2. nukeboy95

    nukeboy95 Leave luck to heaven.

    Member
    2,273
    1,086
    Aug 24, 2010
    United States
    not sure
    its a wast of money from the start
     
  3. Gahars

    Gahars Bakayaro Banzai

    Member
    10,254
    17,404
    Aug 5, 2011
    United States
    New Jersey
    I think it's worth pointing out that Xbox Live was the vastly superior service until about a year or so ago. As someone who got PSN at launch, let me tell you, the damn thing was a mess. Sure, you had to pay with Live, but you were paying for a well made, secure, unified service, and that was a deal well worth taking in my book.

    Now I'd say the pendulum has swung in Sony's favor pretty much for PS+ alone. A continual stream of free games for the same price - What's not to love?

    (Also, bringing a PC service into a discussion about console online is like bringing a harrier jet to a knife fight. It's inherently unfair.)
     
    xwatchmanx likes this.
  4. DinohScene

    DinohScene Feed Dino to the Sharks

    Member
    GBAtemp Patron
    DinohScene is a Patron of GBAtemp and is helping us stay independent!

    Our Patreon
    16,588
    13,246
    Oct 11, 2011
    Antarctica
    В небо
    Meh, I don't care much for online gameplay but XBL is superior to PSN.
    Friend system is better, cross game voicechat.
    XBL Marketplace is better then the PSN store (in terms of design and ease of use)

    Only advantage PSN is is that it's free.
    However you need a credit card to get PSN+ iirc..
    You don't need that with XBL.

    But yeh, if all comes down to yourself.
    Do you want to play with friends on XBLive or not?
    Do you use Youtube/netflix/Internet Explorer/whatever?
    Can you spare 60 quid a year?
     
  5. ShadowSoldier
    OP

    ShadowSoldier GBAtemp Guru

    Member
    9,383
    3,300
    Oct 8, 2009
    Canada
    Well people can use whatever they want, I just pointed out Steam, mainly for the Sales aspect, and that you don't have to pay to play online with it. I mean to be honest, I'd say the WiiU eShop is doing pretty good with giving sales as well. The games that do go on sale go on sale for a while and also have a huge chunk taken off. I think they're starting to do it right.

    But yes I agree, I should have clarified that Xbox Live to this day, and not years ago.
     
  6. Carnivean

    Carnivean STARMAN

    Member
    427
    61
    Jul 11, 2006
    UK
    Cross game chat is still the most important thing for me on XBL and I pirate all my games anyway so I completely feel I get my money's worth. XBL is also just a better implemented system overall with complete standardisation across all games.
     
  7. Sicklyboy

    Sicklyboy Resident Mechanical Keyboard Addict

    Global Moderator
    5,736
    4,738
    Jul 15, 2009
    United States
    [̲̅$̲̅(̲̅ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°̲̅)̲̅$̲̅]
    You know, this argument DOES come up a lot. I always reply "well, I think Live is the better choice, because you're paying for a service to be properly maintained, and it is maintained quite well; cross game voice chat; good friend system; etc"

    How many times has that been said, exactly?

    Yes, at first Live WAS better than PSN. PSN had a very rocky start. The playing field is a bit more level now, sure.

    That brings me to the following conclusion. What service is more "worth it", or "better"? The one that is supported by your game console of choice.

    Aside from my PC (duh), my 360 is my favorite game console. I RARELY game online with it, but I'm always connected to Live. However, when I can afford it, I'll go and pick up a one year membership and be done with it for a year, just so I have that option. I also have a PS3, but in the year that I've had it (bought it broken from a friend, fixed it), I've used it maybe twice. The PS3 just doesn't entice me nearly as much as the Xbox does. Maybe I don't like the controllers? Maybe I just haven't opened up to it and given it enough time? Whatever the reason, I would never, at this present moment, imagine paying for PSN+, regardless of how many free games they give me. It's just not enticing when I don't play it.

    So, I'll say it again. The better service is the one that runs on your game console of choice. If you don't have either current-gen console, then you need to do your research into which one you want to buy, and whether you want to pay for the respective online service or not. Don't go to a store and ask the guy which one is better, either, because speaking from personal experience, I don't give a damn about it really, I'll tell you one is free and the other is not, but I like the paid one better, because of reasons.

    That's my opinion, at least.
     
    chavosaur likes this.
  8. ars25

    ars25 I like tacos and pie

    Member
    841
    105
    Oct 21, 2010
    United States
    the world that never was
    nope you can get it in the stores too dino
     
  9. Kouen Hasuki

    Kouen Hasuki Kouen the Cyber Husky

    Member
    1,388
    337
    Jan 9, 2013
    Norway
    Gaming Bunker
    Never much cared for Xbox live gold myself seemed a bit annoying you. Buy the game then have to pay again just to play it online some may say wow is the same but at least the game or expansion is much cheaper.

    That said... PC Master Race, don't think I need say more than that
     
  10. BORTZ

    BORTZ You get a hat, and YOU get a hat!

    Supervisor
    GBAtemp Patron
    BORTZ is a Patron of GBAtemp and is helping us stay independent!

    Our Patreon
    11,758
    14,909
    Dec 2, 2007
    United States
    Pittsburgh
    I use it out of because that's what all of my friends have, which is a terrible reason to have something really. Microsoft seems to really be letting things slip in live lately.
     
  11. kristianity77

    kristianity77 GBATemp old fogey

    Member
    1,431
    378
    Jul 10, 2003
    Bewdley, UK
    Ive answered no. Ive paid for Xbox live since i got my 360 6 years ago. And i believe it was worth it in the beginning purely because there wasnt really any competition and at the start, the online infrastructure surrounding PS3 was dodgy at best. Ive never owned a PS3, but its plain to see that PS Plus especially with the instant game collection simply blows it out of the water for much the same price point.

    Granted, Microsoft does have a plethora of apps available to use for various music, video streaming etc but guess what, it all costs money on top of the XBL subscription.
    When the new consoles come, microsoft has to offer more for me, or I will shift over to Sony, purely because if they keep the same kind of business model which they have adopted recently, it offers way more value for money.
     
  12. lokomelo

    lokomelo Edson Arantes do Nascimento

    Member
    968
    250
    Aug 19, 2009
    Brazil
    São Paulo
    Sorry for going off topic, but I think it is the time for who never ever seen a un-haked (aka clean) 360 like me understand some things. Xbox Live is a paid store where you can pay again to buy games?
    For example, I want to play castle crashers, so I have to be subscribler AND pay for the game? Or it is more like PSN, where the store is a "free" feature, and PS+ is like a paid add-on?

    IF you have to pay to use the store and THEN you have to pay to buy the games, I think it not woth it at all.
     
  13. Gahars

    Gahars Bakayaro Banzai

    Member
    10,254
    17,404
    Aug 5, 2011
    United States
    New Jersey
    No, you can buy and play games without Xbox Live. You'd just need Xbox Live if you want to play it online, however.
     
  14. Hells Malice

    Hells Malice Are you a bully?

    pip Contributor
    GBAtemp Patron
    Hells Malice is a Patron of GBAtemp and is helping us stay independent!

    Our Patreon
    6,163
    5,130
    Apr 9, 2009
    Canada
    Xbox live gold offers a vastly superior service and a much crisper experience. It also costs a meager $60~ for 13 months. That's a pretty tiny pittance.

    PS+ is definitely awesome, but it's not like it makes your online experience any better. It just showers you in free stuff, which hey, is awesome. But if we're going to judge these based on if XBL Gold is still worth it, then yeah, it doesn't offer anything to compare to XBL gold directly. You still have the same half-baked PSN experience where no one has a mic and the online communities are much smaller. Along with plenty of other things. Using both services it's always morbidly obvious that XBL stomps PSN.

    But heck they're both so damn cheap I just buy yearly subs for both...why the hell not.

    TL;DR PC Master race ftw.
     
    chavosaur likes this.
  15. ShadowSoldier
    OP

    ShadowSoldier GBAtemp Guru

    Member
    9,383
    3,300
    Oct 8, 2009
    Canada
    I don't know what games you play on the PS3, but every game I've gone online with, everybody has a mic. Also the online communities being smaller is dependent on the game, not the service itself.
     
  16. AaronZ

    AaronZ GBAtemp Regular

    Member
    188
    23
    Mar 22, 2012
    Not for me, all I want to do is play online and have a friends list and the PSN covers that for free, XBL is superior but I don't care for the bells and whistles, I hate the new store design though, the other one was so much faster and easier to use.
     
  17. Haloman800

    Haloman800 a real gril

    Member
    1,741
    532
    Dec 18, 2009
    United States
    No, it's a complete rip off. You have to pay to play online multiplayer on the games you already dropped $60+ on? Sony doesn't do this, Nintendo doesn't do this. I hate Microsoft.
     
  18. chavosaur

    chavosaur Austin Trujillo

    pip Contributor
    4,793
    8,725
    Mar 11, 2012
    United States
    Huntersville, NC
    There's just so much irony when there's Halo in your name...
     
    Sicklyboy likes this.
  19. emigre

    emigre Oh Jeremy Corbyn

    Member
    8,030
    11,592
    Jan 28, 2009
    United States
    London
    I just want to say PS+ is a fucking magnificent service.
     
  20. Depravo

    Depravo KALSARIKÄNNIT

    Global Moderator
    GBAtemp Patron
    Depravo is a Patron of GBAtemp and is helping us stay independent!

    Our Patreon
    5,259
    3,576
    Oct 13, 2008
    Purgatory