Windows 11 Will Make it Mandatory to Have a Microsoft Account to Log In

[tech3475]

I edited that you can switch to local AFTER you make an inital setup with an MS account, so no, Microsoft still let people use it without, they just hard trying to filter more people in, shaddy, but it's in their interest to give the full Windows 11 experience to normal users with the store and all that stuff.

It still feels like an unnecessary coercion with jumping through hoops and I doubt allot of W11 users will be aware of the workaround.

On W10 at least, you can select specific apps to login to, such as the store without affecting the wider OS.

 

[nolimits59]

It still feels like an unnecessary coercion with jumping through hoops and I doubt allot of W11 users will be aware of the workaround.

On W10 at least, you can select specific apps to login to, such as the store without affecting the wider OS.

We are in an transitioning era for Desktop OSs, we are more and more adopting the store centred approach Apple brought to mobile devices, I think it's a good thing, but to take that approach we need to have online centered OS that have accounts to get more than half the features the OS have to offer, "force" habits change can be a good thing, I understand that it's a shaddy thing to force people that way, but a large portion of users wouldn't even try a new approach if they have a choice to keep the routine they had for the last decades, people are affraid to change, but for those who really knows, (IT guys, big time nerds or power users like I am) we are the type of people why Microsoft hidden this this way, they know we would have find a way anyway to it's still possible to undo it after you set it up the first time.

I couldn't agree more that it's a not that cool way to force people to taste that way of using a desktop OS, but objectively, it's a necessary way to force people to take a glimpse of what they could do with that kind of use.

 

[_47iscool]

I guess they want to push a lot of people to Linux.

The more the years push on, the more DRM we we will see. As if selling you half of a game on disc wasn't already bad enough, they then made you be connected to the internet to play certain games and required it for certain features.

The 360/PS3/Wii was the last generation of good game consoles where you got what you paid for. Now they want to monitor everything you do.

 

[The Real Jdbye]

Gonna stick with 10 IOT LTSC, lasts until 2032.

Why IoT?

 

[Deleted member 194275]

today for my usage the only advantage of Windows 10 over Linux is the driver compatibility with old/cheap/chinese hardware (like those ultra cheap lan boards, SD readers wireless boards and so on). Windows just destroys any distro on identifying and installing hardware, but windows 11 do not even boot on old/cheap/chinese hardware, so, why would I care about it?

 

[Sheimi]

Probably to monitor you, sell your data.

 

[SAIYAN48]

Why IoT?

It lasts longer than the normal LTSC version.

 

[tech3475]

We are in an transitioning era for Desktop OSs, we are more and more adopting the store centred approach Apple brought to mobile devices, I think it's a good thing, but to take that approach we need to have online centered OS that have accounts to get more than half the features the OS have to offer, "force" habits change can be a good thing, I understand that it's a shaddy thing to force people that way, but a large portion of users wouldn't even try a new approach if they have a choice to keep the routine they had for the last decades, people are affraid to change, but for those who really knows, (IT guys, big time nerds or power users like I am) we are the type of people why Microsoft hidden this this way, they know we would have find a way anyway to it's still possible to undo it after you set it up the first time.

I couldn't agree more that it's a not that cool way to force people to taste that way of using a desktop OS, but objectively, it's a necessary way to force people to take a glimpse of what they could do with that kind of use.

I personally prefer any cloud stuff to be on the application level and not the OS level, for the lack of better terminology, because when something goes wrong with the cloud, it can be a real pain to deal with.

I've had problems in the past because of the cloud, among the worst being locked out of my entire Xbox, as in I couldn't even sign in to play disc games, because XBL was down.

Even recently with Onedrive, I had to spend hours deleting files/folders because Onedrive kept erroring out when I tried to delete the folder that contained them.

The potential benefits are either minimal, especially when 'per app' is taken into account or worse unwanted e.g. shared settings, as I have different requirements between different systems.

Given that they're also pushing this onto 'pro' users during OOBE, I doubt they really want 'those who know' to really bypass this, it feels more like a loophole.

 

[chrisrlink]

i can see some (if not all cases) of illegal material being auto uploaded to one drive being thrown out unless this was the government's plan all along

 

[chrisrlink]

i can see some (if not all cases) of illegal material being auto uploaded to one drive being thrown out unless this was the government's plan all along

also found out MS screwed up and allows you still to uninstall OD from windows 11 problem solved

 

[The Real Jdbye]

It lasts longer than the normal LTSC version.

Isn't it extremely limited in functionality? I looked at it a while back out of curiosity when they released it for free for Raspberry Pi but it didn't seem like it was suitable as a desktop OS.

 

[SAIYAN48]

You're thinking of the Embedded IOT; mine is just a long term version of LTSC.

 

[Jogarr]

Well I'm definitely not upgrading now

 

[Kraken_X]

They will probably leave loophole for the reasonably tech savvy to use like how we can disable automatic reboots in Win10 and bypass the TPM check in Win11. It's a smart thing to do because the 5% of tech savvy people influence the next 20%, which influence the rest.

Since 95% of people won't bother with the workaround, M$ gets all the advertising and store dollars from those people and the other 5% won't care enough to actually push the others to use Linux.

For Gen Z and younger, they think it's weird that we don't want to use a MS account since app stores and having no privacy is what is normal for them and they know nothing else. Normalizing that is the whole point.

 

[veggav]

I don't mind using my live account to login what I do mind is that without a local account auto login is impossible.
It keeps asking for a PIN or some BS.

if auto login was possible I wouldn't mind.

 

[Dr_Faustus]

Might not be so bad if Enterprise also lets you have more control over automatic updates getting pushed (without needing a domain controller server to disable it). Sometime last year my Win10 computer spontaneously rebooted due to an update. It’s possible there was a dialog that popped up and I was hitting enter right as it arrived or something but I was a bit outraged that Windows still hasn’t gotten better about user control over updates since like XP.

But yeah I’m not opposed to less frequent updates if it means no required M$ account

Did you even read the post I made above? GPedit is your friend and can be very useful if you know what you are doing with your OS.

I mean at what point would the need of Enterprise be for an average user if you don't use the benefits of group policy editing away automatic updates and telemetry. Don't go installing versions of Windows if you do not know what you're doing. Best stay on home and deal with it if you can't learn to do some research on the subject.

 

[josephbut]

Thanks for the information.