Wii #XXXX - Harukanaru Jikuu no Kade 4 (NUKED) (Japan)

[OSW]

People wouldn't bother scrubbing if compression of the ISO can make it pointless.

you said they would have closer download sizes.

what i meant was that if you use a compression format with a better ratio, that won't make the difference any smaller because the scrubbed release is also getting compressed under the same format.

 

[aardvarks]

Hi all
hate to interupt you all, but wots the game like or am i stupid to ask that on here?

 

[Lumstar]

Being from Koei... Chances are it's a spinoff of either Dynasty Warriors or Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

 

[Link00y]

Just to get on Urza's point and the dreamcast era. I guess the scene accepted that way back then, simply because: using a WAV file you can perfectly reconstruct CDDA data without any byte of lost data. This is like comparing ZIP/PNG and JPEG.

Put a BMP file into a ZIP.. low compression but when you take it out no byte will have changed, the BMP file is perfectly preserved. Same goes for PNG.. store a BMP to PNG and not a single pixel will be lost. Put it into JPEG and even at quality 100% things are different if you save back to BMP.

And I guess that's what the scene is on: if you could unscrub ISOs and they'd look 100% identical with the original digital data, I do not think the scene would say anything about scrubbed ISOs - however, the fact is a scrubbed ISO can never be unscrubbed.

In the DC era: using the WAV files you were able to get a perfect digital copy of the original ISO again. Which is just impossible after scrubbing.

 

[Dack]

And I guess that's what the scene is on: if you could unscrub ISOs and they'd look 100% identical with the original digital data, I do not think the scene would say anything about scrubbed ISOs - however, the fact is a scrubbed ISO can never be unscrubbed.

You missed the 'unscrub' button from version 1.1 onwards I take it......... which takes it back to a 1:1 copy

Pity no-one actually produces the DIF files to use it.

 

[mattlouf]

Pity no-one actually produces the DIF files to use it.

+1 !!

 

[OSW]

ah but i understand the difference.

scrubbed games need the DIF file to reproduce the original, whereas other formats such as WAV contain all the data internally to reproduce the original.

 

[Spikey]

Guess you guys are ignoring the Gamecube bit of the quote and didn't want to bother looking into it. (Oh, and yeah... DSL totally wasn't around during the Gamecube era...)

Will the groups use it though? They're not 100% accurate releases, if they're "wiped" first...

guess you dont know anything about the gamecube scene then......
starcube were the pioneers of the gamecube garbage wiping method and pretty much all gamecube images had the garbage wiped from them (apart from the first few releases and a couple where it made little to no difference)
it's not a new trick in the scene just a new one in the wii scene and i have no doubt it will catch on(maybe not with this tool as sceners prefer to code their own rather than use public ones)

Just another instance of this same thing. Just because the Wii Scene works like this now doesn't mean it has to. Which was my point from the beginning.

 

[Kenshin Br]

We need to know japanese to play this game?

I saw some imagens and it seems to be an RPG with a lot of text. Can anyone confirm that?

 

[opcode32]

I'm all with SpikeyNDS on this one. I haven't seen this nuked for being scrubbed on any sites and i don't think it will. Scene is not there to "preserve" anything, but to win the release. This means first working release counts, everything else is considered a dupe. Everyone who says otherwise must either not have a clue or not been around long enough. I think the whole "pure dump" bullshit started back in the gbc days and since then people used it to excuse their lame and unwanted dupes (eg. NoIntro, XWar and some lame psp groups i don't remember).
Hence i am sure if some lame "group" decides to release this as unscrubbed it will either never make it on any sites (because smart people won't trade it in the first place) or just get nuked as dupe. Being nuked here doesn't matter anyway, so this whole discussion is pretty pointless in the first place

 

[Shuny]

To detect a Scrubbed ISO, Nintendo would need a DIF file for each game ... Stop being stupid. There's no way Nintendo can detect these.

 

[kelvie]

Promotional video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9StR3kbSxUA

Edit: On further inspection, this is a romance adventure game aimed at females.

 

[santorix10]

Promotional video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9StR3kbSxUA

Edit: On further inspection, this is a romance adventure game aimed at females.

You can kinda tell that by looking at the way the cover art is drawn.

 

[xleijian]

this game is from animations and comics
voice cast from game are well known