Hacking Wii VC Injects vs vWii modding

[grandosegood]

hey folks,

so i'm running the latest haxchi on my wii u. I'd like to start emulating Wii and gamecube games. It's my understanding that I can use injections to make these games work without modding vWii. Can someone briefly explain the advantages/disadvantages of each way?

 

[RyanTheArchivist]

hey folks,

so i'm running the latest haxchi on my wii u. I'd like to start emulating Wii and gamecube games. It's my understanding that I can use injections to make these games work without modding vWii. Can someone briefly explain the advantages/disadvantages of each way?

if you are interested in playing certain games on the tablet vc injections is what you want though most wii games dont work with tablet and n64 well its very buggy and crashes a decent bit currently

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if you are interested in playing certain games on the tablet vc injections is what you want though most wii games dont work with tablet and n64 well its very buggy and crashes a decent bit currently

also gamecube is almost flawless

 

[grandosegood]

if you are interested in playing certain games on the tablet vc injections is what you want though most wii games dont work with tablet and n64 well its very buggy and crashes a decent bit currently

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also gamecube is almost flawless

Thanks for your reply. I could do without the pad and just use the Wii u Pro controller. What would you advise then? should i got with vWii mod?

 

[RyanTheArchivist]

Thanks for your reply. I could do without the pad and just use the Wii u Pro controller. What would you advise then? should i got with vWii mod?

if you dont mind using the controller then vwii

 

[Alacres]

if you are interested in playing certain games on the tablet vc injections is what you want though most wii games dont work with tablet and n64 well its very buggy and crashes a decent bit currently

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also gamecube is almost flawless

So you can actually use the pad to play Gamecube games with the injection method? Does the rumble feature work with the pad? And what about games that utilize the gamecube controllers analog triggers? I guess it's not possible to use the gamecube controller for this unless you're in vWii?

Sorry for all the questions; just got my Wii U so I'm trying to get a handle on all of this. I'd love to be able to play most of the GC games on Wii U mode (using the same HDD) and this seems like the way to go for that. I'm just curious about the drawbacks.

 

[Sumea]

Wii and Gamecube running on Wii U are not emulation really, but hardware compatibility with Wii, and gamecube compatibility is just running gamecube games in Wii mode through magicks of nintendon't.

vWii modding is good for Wii homebrew, Virtual console games only on Wii or injects that are only on wii, or whatever. You can still mod vWii and still use injects; though it is not entirely necessary.

Injects have few things going for them; First of all if you use a USB hard drive or whatnot on Wii U for some delicious Wii U games, Wii and Gamecube injects into Wii eShop format are also installed on the same drive. Before you needed to juggle between two hard drives that are not compatible with each other. Wii U would get it's panties twisted for non-Wii U format drive and some backup loaders would get bent from extra drive that they did not ask for - so overall it is pain unless you just got a SD card large enough to host your gamecube and Wii games you want to play, which conventionally is not that many with affordable SD cards.
Also mentioned gamepad emulation; though not compatible with all games, not even all games that are classic controller compatible. Also Nintendon't is compatible with it but analog trigger games require weird button combos, or just using a Wii classic controller (original, with analog triggers), gamecube controller or sony controllers or something.

So; with injects you can install them on your Wii U's USB drive, have your games on your Wii U's main menu and launch them from there, when you exit the game, you return to Wii U main menu as well.

Downsides of injects is that they need Sigpatches, and best way would be CBHC because of rebooting between exiting Wii games back to Wii menu. Not everyone has a DS game readily available or whatever, not everyone can use eShop easily (with Wii U I had to buy cards from gamestop because my Visa Electron would not work with nintendo's eShop until Switch eShop seems to function) or whatever it may be, being comfortable installing CBHC or whatever.
Second thing would be not 100% compatibility. There is few Wii games that just don't want to work even with all kinds of fixes tried, gamepad emulation is not 100% compatible, Gamepad emulation in nintendon't use is not really multiplayer compatible IIRC, and few other things like that, but overall personally I've been loving injection just because they are on same 1tb drive that I use for my Wii U games, and I have awfully lot free space on it anyway.

 

[SANIC]

So you can actually use the pad to play Gamecube games with the injection method? Does the rumble feature work with the pad? And what about games that utilize the gamecube controllers analog triggers? I guess it's not possible to use the gamecube controller for this unless you're in vWii?

Sorry for all the questions; just got my Wii U so I'm trying to get a handle on all of this. I'd love to be able to play most of the GC games on Wii U mode (using the same HDD) and this seems like the way to go for that. I'm just curious about the drawbacks.

Pressing the L button + Z Triggers emulates a half press

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Thanks for your reply. I could do without the pad and just use the Wii u Pro controller. What would you advise then? should i got with vWii mod?

Wii U Pro is only compatible with GameCube games

 

[Alacres]

Pressing the L button + Z Triggers emulates a half press

What about when you use a legit Gamecube controller with an injected GC game? Does it work as normal with the triggers or do you still need to use that button combination?

And thanks for the info

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Awesome stuff

Thanks for the write-up; nice to see all the pros and cons laid out like that. Definitely going to mess with this injection stuff, once I get my external HDD and SD card.

 

[SANIC]

What about when you use a legit Gamecube controller with an injected GC game? Does it work as normal with the triggers or do you still need to use that button combination?

And thanks for the info

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Thanks for the write-up; nice to see all the pros and cons laid out like that. Definitely going to mess with this injection stuff, once I get my external HDD and SD card.

Legit controller does have analog input, btw the GameCube controller has no L shoulder button, just Z

 

[Alacres]

Legit controller does have analog input, btw the GameCube controller has no L shoulder button, just Z

Oh, that's right! Damn, it's been awhile since I've used it I guess; I forgot about the unique qualities of the button configuration. It's been collecting dust in a box with my old Wii.

The reason I was confused about it working with the injection method is because I had read that the Wii U treats the Gamecube controller like a Wii U pro (I think...) and it doesn't have analog triggers. Glad to know that it works like it should, even with this method. That mayflash adapter will likely be my next purchase.

 

[pedro702]

Legit controller does have analog input, btw the GameCube controller has no L shoulder button, just Z

your wrong lol gc controllers have L,R,Z shoulder buttons but they dont Have ZR or ZL just Z

 

[SANIC]

your wrong lol gc controllers have L,R,Z shoulder buttons but they dont Have ZR or ZL just Z

I'm not wrong, I said that it has no L shoulder button, aka the top row, it has an L bumper button in the back