Hacking Wii U Hacking & Homebrew Discussion

[SnAQ]

Kinda hard to start game modding when your firmware isn't supported...

It's not the devs fault you updated.

 

[Azeryn]

It's not the devs fault you updated.

No, but the devs need to understand that people make decisions based on what they say. So when I decided to update my system mid January to have some legit online fun for a few weeks before IOSU, it was because a dev said it was a for sure thing.

Then not even a hey, look, sorry I don't have it done yet, just a little longer, my bad. It was basically a fuck you guys, I never gave a release date.

You tell me for sure before Feb., so I make decisions based on that. You don't even apologize and just tell us all to fuck off for being mad? Respect is earned man...

 

[steelseth]

It's not the devs fault you updated.

Well thats not true now is it.
When they tell you they will release an exploit in the next week, the end of the month, the next month for sure. Then a user might be fooled and update just to enjoy those 2 games on the wiiU that are worth playing but require online access.

 

[tivu100]

Well thats not true now is it.
When they tell you they will release an exploit in the next week, the end of the month, the next month for sure. Then a user might be fooled and update just to enjoy those 2 games on the wiiU that are worth playing but require online access.

No devs said that you SHOULD update. All they say firmware is supported when the exploit is released when it's ready. Release date can be delayed even if the dev wrongly give out an unachievable date.

The rule is stay at lowest firmware (with exploit if you have one) as you can until there is a downgrade method publicly available.

 

[steelseth]

No devs said that you SHOULD update. All they say firmware is supported when the exploit is released when it's ready.

The rule is stay at lowest firmware (with exploit if you have one) as you can.

"I will release in February for sure." Thats what Hykem said and also "Dont worry 5.5.0 and 5.5.1 is supported".
The "will release when ready" was said after he missed his 3rd deadline and ragequit.

 

[tivu100]

"I will release in February for sure." Thats what Hykem said and also "Dont worry 5.5.0 and 5.5.1 is supported".
The will release when ready was after he missed his 3rd deadline and ragequit.

I updated my previous post.

Point is for homebrew scene is not a business, so take everything with a pinch of salt, and expect delay, long and short. Follow the unchangeable rule of not update to un-moddable firmware till a downgrade method available.

The stickied Definitive Wii U thread even sticks to 5.3.2 as a safe version until this date!

Not saying Hykem was at no fault. However, logically, you should know IOSU exploit at its barenss is no use for end user,even for homebrew app dev that work on high level programming language.

Hykem probably realized this and delayed to developed EMUNAND,d SDK and stuff... for a worthy release (not sure what now after all this though)

I repeat this point: bare IOSU exploit release is only useful for Nintendo to patch it in next update. Gain nothing for homebrew scene even for short amount of time because devs still need SDk to write app.

If you think you can do thing with bare IOSU exploit then you may be as good as make the exploit yourself using the keys and info available out there. Let that sink in.

 

[ihateu3]

"I will release in February for sure." Thats what Hykem said and also "Dont worry 5.5.0 and 5.5.1 is supported".
The "will release when ready" was said after he missed his 3rd deadline and ragequit.

I wouldn't say he rage quit, he is still contributing many helpful things, just no longer on this site.

If anything, he quit visiting gbatemp not out of rage, but because trolls such as yourself pushed him out. You guys are responsible for this, and are now mad at him for leaving gbatemp, when you should be mad at yourselves. You guys did this, and we all hate you for it.

Troll on, he doesn't care.

 

[Azeryn]

I wouldn't say he rage quit, he is still contributing many helpful things, just no longer on this site.

If anything, he quit visiting gbatemp not out of rage, but because trolls such as yourself pushed him out. You guys are responsible for this, and are now mad at him for leaving gbatemp, when you should be mad at yourselves. You guys did this, and we all hate you for it.

Troll on, he doesn't care.

Sorry that people got mad that he cried wolf 5 times in under 3 months.

 

[steelseth]

I updated my previous post.

Point is for homebrew scene is not a business, so take everything with a pinch of salt, and expect delay, long and short. Follow the unchangeable rule of not update to un-moddable firmware till a downgrade method available.

The stickied Definitive Wii U thread even sticks to 5.3.2 as a safe version until this date!

Personally Im on the latest firmware and even if the 5.5.1 exploit was released today and Nintendo patched it tomorrow I would still update to the latest mainly because my Wii U is played by my kids and they go online and play.
So loadiine and piracy its not a concern of mine, not that Im against it but because I already bought all the games they wanted some of them more than once.
What I cant stand is fanboys and asslickers telling people "the devs dont own you anything", "its your own fault", "respect x,y,z douchebag", "if you dont like it do it yourselve" etc.

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I wouldn't say he rage quit, he is still contributing many helpful things, just no longer on this site.

If anything, he quit visiting gbatemp not out of rage, but because trolls such as yourself pushed him out. You guys are responsible for this, and are now mad at him for leaving gbatemp, when you should be mad at yourselves. You guys did this, and we all hate you for it.

Troll on, he doesn't care.

You must be a real sad person to "hate" someone on the internet because he doesnt agree with you.
Its spring, the sun is shining, go outsite and smell the flowers ......

oooohhhh wait .....

you cant ......

your nose is up Hykems ass.

 

[pedro702]

Personally Im on the latest firmware and even if the 5.5.1 exploit was released today and Nintendo patched it tomorrow I would still update to the latest mainly because my Wii U is played by my kids and they go online and play.
So loadiine and piracy its not a concern of mine, not that Im against it but because I already bought all the games they wanted some of them more than once.
What I cant stand is fanboys and asslickers telling people "the devs dont own you anything", "its your own fault", "respect x,y,z douchebag", "if you dont like it do it yourselve" etc.

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You must be a real sad person to "hate" someone on the internet because he doesnt agree with you.
Its spring, the sun is shining, go outsite and smell the flowers ......

oooohhhh wait .....

you cant ......

your nose is up Hykems ass.

You can stop your wiiu from updating very easy its called tubehax so yeah if you never bothered with it its your own fault, tubehax allows online play and keeps updates at bay.

 

[tivu100]

Personally Im on the latest firmware and even if the 5.5.1 exploit was released today and Nintendo patched it tomorrow I would still update to the latest mainly because my Wii U is played by my kids and they go online and play.
So loadiine and piracy its not a concern of mine, not that Im against it but because I already bought all the games they wanted some of them more than once.
What I cant stand is fanboys and asslickers telling people "the devs dont own you anything", "its your own fault", "respect x,y,z douchebag", "if you dont like it do it yourselve" etc.

Our is on 5.5.1 too. Was 5.5.0out of box. Updated by my nephew friend. I want Loadiine so I can savely keep the game discs not risking them damaged swapped around by my nephews. So not piracy.

Don't know about others so can't talk about others. But from outside, Hykem really f**ed big time with all the date & promise. He has his reputation tainted due to this. Noone should make excuse for that.

Just saying for the homebrew community, as thing stands, no point for IOSU exploit to be released bare & raw! There would be even chance NX would still have similar vulnerability as Wii U, so no point try resurrect dead console like Wii U while potentially be able make a huge scene out of NX on launch hypothetically!

For someone who doesn't care about homebrew and wants it released bare & raw, are you by any chance working for Nintendo?

 

[ihateu3]

Personally Im on the latest firmware and even if the 5.5.1 exploit was released today and Nintendo patched it tomorrow I would still update to the latest mainly because my Wii U is played by my kids and they go online and play.
So loadiine and piracy its not a concern of mine, not that Im against it but because I already bought all the games they wanted some of them more than once.
What I cant stand is fanboys and asslickers telling people "the devs dont own you anything", "its your own fault", "respect x,y,z douchebag", "if you dont like it do it yourselve" etc.

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You must be a real sad person to "hate" someone on the internet because he doesnt agree with you.
Its spring, the sun is shining, go outsite and smell the flowers ......

oooohhhh wait .....

you cant ......

your nose is up Hykems ass.

lol, why didn't you post this for the army of trolls attacking Hykem before he decided to leave? Love, hippie dippy shit is not what the trolls did, they were so fierce that they chased him out.

 

[steelseth]

Our is on 5.5.1 too. Was 5.5.0out of box. Updated by my nephew friend. I want Loadiine so I can savely keep the game discs not risking them damaged swapped around by my nephews. So not piracy.

Don't know about others so can't talk about others. But from outside, Hykem really f**ed big time with all the date & promise. He has his reputation tainted due to this. Noone should make excuse for that.

Just saying for the homebrew community, as thing stands, no point for IOSU exploit to be released bare & raw! There is eeven chance NX would still have similar vulnerability as Wii U, so no point try resurrect dead console like Wii U while ptentiall can make a huge scene out of NX hypothetically!

For someone who doesn't care about homebrew and wants it released bare & raw, are you by any chance working for Nintendo?

I also want to be able to play from a HDD and not the disc, the kids treat the discs like freespies, Im on my 3rd copy of mario maker.
But loadiine wont do it because you cant go online and play with loadiine.
All this we are developing and documenting the IOSU is bullshit. What documentation and development was there for the kernel exploits ? The same code that works with the kernel exploit should work for the IOSU exploit with the difference that instead of hyjacking another process memory you could run it from the OS. So the core code will be the same. If they released it when they said Dimok would have had a working usb loader ready by now.
Nintendo said they wrote a new OS for the NX.

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You can stop your wiiu from updating very easy its called tubehax so yeah if you never bothered with it its your own fault, tubehax allows online play and keeps updates at bay.

Im aware of tubehax and opendns and know how to block the update servers from my rooter.
Can I play online using loadiine and not the original disc? No. So its useless to me.

 

[tivu100]

I also want to be able to play from a HDD and not the disc, the kids treat the discs like freespies, Im on my 3rd copy of mario maker.
But loadiine wont do it because you cant go online and play with loadiine.
All this we are developing and documenting the IOSU is bullshit. What documentation and development was there for the kernel exploits ? The same code that works with the kernel exploit should work for the IOSU exploit with the difference that instead of hyjacking another process memory you could run it from the OS. So the core code will be the same. If they released it when they said Dimok would have had a working usb loader ready by now.
Nintendo said they wrote a new OS for the NX.

I feel you. I know how kids behave.

Your post highlight the issue why devs who have the IOSU want to keep it for futher private research. Why do you sound like making Loadiine runs with USB loader is priority for the scene instead of benefit if bigger goals achieved? The devs want new Homebrew apps, a livelier homebrew scene. All you want is update of old apps?! (If you can develop something awesome and showed them your plan, then they would share you the info already)

They're (Hykem said/lied that he's) working to make EMUNAND. With EMUNAND you can stay up to date and go online. With EMUNAND, title manager that runs like Eshop games/apps than simply Rom loader. That means online play, DLCs... supported.

Again, not telling you to have high hope for Wii U scene. There is no telling after all this. The ship may have sailed as well. Who knows?

Things about NX is still pretty much speculated. Nintendo may do as they say but they may still make the similar mistake. Or they may lie. Who knows? Remember the rule? Stay at the safe point until another new safe is concrete.

PS: Going to bed now. Is very late at my local time.

 

[steelseth]

I feel you. I know how kids behave.

Your post highlight the issue why devs who have the IOSU wants to keep it for private researching longer. Why do you sound like making Loadiine runs with USB loader is priority? The devs want new Homebrew apps, a livelier homebrew scene. All you want is update of old apps!

They're (Hykem said/lied that he's) working to make EMUNAND. With EMUNAND you can stay up to date and go online. With EMUNAND, title manager that runs like Eshop games/apps than simply Rom loader. That means online play, DLCs... supported.

Again, not telling you to have high hope for Wii U scene. There is no telling after all this. The ship may have sailed as well. Who knows?

Things about NX is still pretty much speculated. Nintendo may do as they say but they may still make the similar mistake. Or they may lie. Who knows? Remember the rule? Stay at the safe point until another new safe is concrete.

Different devs work on different apps and have different priorities, it only goes to reason that Dimok will continue his work on loadiine and homebrew launcher.
Smea has a working emunand of some sort that he may never release but you dont see people upset with Smea because he never promised anything.
Its not that I have high hopes, by the end of the year the wiiU will be in a draw somewhere and the kids will be playing with the NX either way.
It has been confirmed by 3rd party developers that the NX will run a different OS.

 

[tivu100]

Different devs work on different apps and have different priorities, it only goes to reason that Dimok will continue his work on loadiine and homebrew launcher.
Smea has a working emunand of some sort that he may never release but you dont see people upset with Smea because he never promised anything.
Its not that I have high hopes, by the end of the year the wiiU will be in a draw somewhere and the kids will be playing with the NX either way.
It has been confirmed by 3rd party developers that the NX will run a different OS.

My last response for today:

Like I said it's on Hykem reputation for his release date saga. There is no excuse from anyone for him

Just that don't go full lunatic like someone* . 2 wrong doesn't make 1 right.

I am not saying the NX OS is the same, but Nintendo devs may makee SIMILAR mistake. Nintendo was not able to patch IOSU,so they may not know their own mistake in OS architecture designing. Unless the NX OS is leaked and being tested that it was completely different then we can turn on a completely new page. AS of now. Who knows?

Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Good night.

 

[oumoumad]

:|

btw it's already been proven 99% of this community just want to pirate shit, how is that not obvious?

Tiny homebrew that does cool things with saves: barely popular
Cafiine releases for ROM hacks: barely popular
Loadiine releases: explodes and people bitching about "OMG PORT TO 5.5.1"

like, come on. if you think this community isn't full of pirates I'd look back on these forums.

also, kernel exploits are limited here. We can't just keep on developing them over and over again and not run out. Who knows how many more updates they'll do?

This is just my personal advice you're free to do what you want: I suggest you focus more on the stuff you made and not exploits, we appreciate your infinished ELF loader, and your splatoon map editor, you should instead speak of those or anything else you've made and keep pushing them. complaining about other work that doesn't belong to you kind of makes you look like you're expressing your frustration since your work doesn't have as much attention, which isn't good neither for you or us. instead I'd suggest you continue develope your tools and maybe try to prove to the community that the Wii U scene can be attractive without backup loaders. Of course that's if you really care about the homebrew scene .

You're not doing the scene any favor by repeating piracy debates, unless there's some super interesting homebrew, it's obvious that the main interest will be towards backup loaders (for the majority), the whole purpose of all these scenes for users is entertainment, and as much as access to that entertainment is easier/cheaper more people will go for it.

 

[Azeryn]

You guys need to stop. This last page, each comment had been like reading a damn novel. A well thought out and written novel in coherent sentences with proper grammar.

We're still on gbatemp, right? Usually I feel like I lose IQ points when reading comments. What happened?

 

[narutonic]

Ah , that's very good. The forum will be more cleaaaaaaan
I've stayed away from the hacking scene because i don't car about the IOSU and the child nammed Hykem.
And Today , as always , open my favorite hacking site and see the news , laugh very loud...

Ho , i have a question , i remember an app which stream the PC screen on the GamePad , can someone give me the name , please ?
Thanks !

 

[pedro702]

I also want to be able to play from a HDD and not the disc, the kids treat the discs like freespies, Im on my 3rd copy of mario maker.
But loadiine wont do it because you cant go online and play with loadiine.
All this we are developing and documenting the IOSU is bullshit. What documentation and development was there for the kernel exploits ? The same code that works with the kernel exploit should work for the IOSU exploit with the difference that instead of hyjacking another process memory you could run it from the OS. So the core code will be the same. If they released it when they said Dimok would have had a working usb loader ready by now.
Nintendo said they wrote a new OS for the NX.

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Im aware of tubehax and opendns and know how to block the update servers from my rooter.
Can I play online using loadiine and not the original disc? No. So its useless to me.

loadiine does not work online at all with tubehax or without it, it never supported online play to begin with, and tubehax let you be online with real discs/eshop downloads wich is the only way to be online as off yet.

Even with iosu im preety sure like on ps3 and xbox360 everyone using backups will begin to get banned accounts one by one so yeah i wouldnt ever recomend going online even if its made available with iosu.