Wii Mode Keys!!! Thanks crediar.

Discussion in 'Wii U - Hacking & Backup Loaders' started by DeadlyFoez, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. DeadlyFoez
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    As SifJar says
     
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  2. jalaneme

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    this feels like the ps3 scene all over again LOL, hopefully we can get something from this.
     
  3. Thomas83Lin

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    Thanks for the update, awesome news!!!
     
  4. dimmujed

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    Could someone explain what this means in terms of potential and hacking?
     
  5. arjaylight

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    if im not mistaken, key will be used in signing ISO wii games, then it can be played even without hacking your wii/wiiU
     
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    That made my day.
     
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    Let the games begin.

    Great news though, hopefully results will exceed my expectations.
     
  8. Kikirini

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    Ooh, awesome!
     
  9. Psionic Roshambo

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    That was some cool news, thank you DeadlyFoez!!!!

    Keys are always nice to have...
     
  10. JoostinOnline

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    You are mistaken. That will take the private key, which I doubt will be found for years, if ever. We don't have the Wii one.
     
  11. Rockhoundhigh

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    Props to crediar again! I just hope everybody can keep their expectations in check for what this means.
     
  12. Psionic Roshambo

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    Since the Wii is pretty hacked, couldn't some one write a brute force key guesser thingy that could run on the Wii? I mean I am sure it could take a long ass time but if you could get maybe 10,000 people to run it on the Wii to break up the list it could speed things up a bit.

    Something that would make some sort of fake ISO file and encrypt it with what ever key it was guessing (the file could be some small ISO with a small hello world on it.)

    I probably am very wrong but that would be my theory on getting the private keys in a timely fashion.

    P.S. I am very tired and I come up with these crazy theories late at night, so if it's complete poo poo please forgive me... lol
     
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    Is it possible to use emulators in Wii mode, with WiiU Pro Contoroller?
     
  14. DeadlyFoez
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    It would still be something that could take a very very long time to do. If it was a reason approach then people would have already been doing that for other keys and shit for nearly everything that comes out. He, you can even use a shit load of great computers and it would still take forever.
     
  15. Zero

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    I'm already getting the Wii U titles from NUS. They install on my Wii but don't appear on the menu.
     
  16. loco365

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    How about the Wii Instructions Manual that appears on the Wii Menu on the WiiU? Can that be installed on a plain old Wii?
     
  17. Rydian

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    Here's my copy-paste on the whole brute forcing idea, aimed at the DSi.


    I present to you: "DSi Encryption Put In Perspective", also known as "I Love Crushing People's Dreams".

    The DSi uses 128-bit encryption (IIRC).
    How do you break it? You find the correct encryption key.

    How many encryption keys are there? 2 (binary, a bit) to the 128th power (number of bits), divided by 8 (8 bits in a byte).
    That's so many that the calculator that comes with windows (at least XP) can't even display the number without reverting to scientific notation.

    128-bits is...
    340,282,366,920,938,463,463,374,607,431,768,211,456 possible values in binary.
    However, Since there's 8 bits in a byte, you divide 128 by 8 and get 16. That's 16 bytes, 16 characters.
    That's 18,446,744,073,709,552,000 possible values, ranging from 0x0000000000000000 to 0xFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF. Eighteen quintillion possible keys.
    The actual number is a bit less less since a key will be a certain number of digits and be designed to not have repeating segments, but this puts it in perspective.

    Let's say that you have a computer program which can try 50,000 unique keys a second.
    That's 3,000,000 keys a minute.
    180,000,000 keys in an hour.
    4,320,000,000 keys a day.
    1,576,800,000,000 keys in one year.

    It would take 11,698,848 years to try all the keys at that speed.
     
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    If we get 10 million people to do it it would take 1 year!! LETS DO IT!!

    (Totally jk, but some people may think i am serious)
     
  19. Zero

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    I tried that, doesn't show up on the Wii Menu/ I suspect it's because the Virtual Wii install path is different than the Wii, but when I pack the wad the directory is in line with the Wii, so I don't know.
     
  20. loco365

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    Weird. Wonder what's preventing them from showing. Perhaps some hex editing is in line.