Hacking Wii/GC VC Injects Black Screening

[Skarekrow73]

Okay so, after following the standard wiiu.guide instructions I have CBHC up and running on a completely fresh 8GB White Wii U, a 32GB SanDisk SDHC card and a 500GB WD portable 2.5" drive. I've tried creating WUPs and installing them to USB with both Wii U USB Helper and TeconMoon's WiiVC Injector, both PAL and NTSC versions of Metroid Prime (just for testing), as well as Mario Party 8 (PAL) installed using both WUP installer GX2 and the Mod Y version.

On both games all I get is the Wii logo and the Wii U disk drive does it's thing, then a black screen for a solid minute or two before the disk drive makes more noise and it reboots.

Every other app I install that I've downloaded via USB Helper works, just not these injected games. I haven't touched vWii but nowhere seems to say this is necessary. Do I have to hack vWii for Wii and GameCube injects to work? Surely I do? I don't want to unnecessarily mess with stock software if I don't have to.

Can anyone think of anything else that could be wrong? Could it be my USB hard drive? Maybe I'm missing something...

Extensive Googling has given me nothing solid to go on troubleshooting wise.

 

[Tri-Z]

Okay so, after following the standard wiiu.guide instructions I have CBHC up and running on a completely fresh 8GB White Wii U, a 32GB SanDisk SDHC card and a 500GB WD portable 2.5" drive. I've tried creating WUPs and installing them to USB with both Wii U USB Helper and TeconMoon's WiiVC Injector, both PAL and NTSC versions of Metroid Prime (just for testing), as well as Mario Party 8 (PAL) installed using both WUP installer GX2 and the Mod Y version.

On both games all I get is the Wii logo and the Wii U disk drive does it's thing, then a black screen for a solid minute or two before the disk drive makes more noise and it reboots.

Every other app I install that I've downloaded via USB Helper works, just not these injected games. I haven't touched vWii but nowhere seems to say this is necessary. Do I have to hack vWii for Wii and GameCube injects to work? Surely I do? I don't want to unnecessarily mess with stock software if I don't have to.

Can anyone think of anything else that could be wrong? Could it be my USB hard drive? Maybe I'm missing something...

Extensive Googling has given me nothing solid to go on troubleshooting wise.

No you don’t need to hack vwii. For GameCube u need nintendont.
Put config on root of sd
When I had first started I grabbed the nintendont from Wii usbhelper and installed to my nand. Idk if that is needed, as in if the injector patches nintendont into it but I had downloaded the two on Wii usbhelper anyhow because at the time I wasn’t sure and since gc injects worked I just left them installed And later created config with tecmoons app and put on sd root
As for Wii injects. Do any of the official Nintendo made ones work?

 

[Skarekrow73]

I figured it out.

Nowhere in any guide or thread I read does anyone rule out the need for vWii modding, so thanks for clearing that up.

Also not found anywhere on the internet is evidence of black screens being caused by a portable hard drive without enough power. Sure, the power issue is mentioned all over, but my drive was working for everything but Wii VC and GC VC games.

This is because when they boot, the hard drive loses power or is disconnected and spins up again. If you have a portable drive that runs off one USB port there is a chance many Wii U and VC games will work, though some may display a "not enough power" message suggesting using a Y cable, etc.

So to confirm, Wii VC and GC VC injected games or legit games black screening can potentially be caused by a hard drive powered via one port, even if it works for other uses.

I'm now using an external desktop drive that has its own power supply and everything works flawlessly.

Hopefully this helps anyone else who runs into the same problem as the intricacies of the hard drive power issue are not explored much. I had other drives that wouldn't work at all, but this one would work fine for some reason, until these particular VC injects were used. Of course it gave no message or error and rebooted to the menu as though all was fine (and the drive was still there) so it took trying an entire other drive to figure out.

 

[Tri-Z]

I figured it out.

Nowhere in any guide or thread I read does anyone rule out the need for vWii modding, so thanks for clearing that up.

Also not found anywhere on the internet is evidence of black screens being caused by a portable hard drive without enough power. Sure, the power issue is mentioned all over, but my drive was working for everything but Wii VC and GC VC games.

This is because when they boot, the hard drive loses power or is disconnected and spins up again. If you have a portable drive that runs off one USB port there is a chance many Wii U and VC games will work, though some may display a "not enough power" message suggesting using a Y cable, etc.

So to confirm, Wii VC and GC VC injected games or legit games black screening can potentially be caused by a hard drive powered via one port, even if it works for other uses.

I'm now using an external desktop drive that has its own power supply and everything works flawlessly.

Hopefully this helps anyone else who runs into the same problem as the intricacies of the hard drive power issue are not explored much. I had other drives that wouldn't work at all, but this one would work fine for some reason, until these particular VC injects were used. Of course it gave no message or error and rebooted to the menu as though all was fine (and the drive was still there) so it took trying an entire other drive to figure out.

That’s odd that it worked for ur Wii U games with no Y cable. I think I saw in multi usb drive thread someone saying they unplugged one of wires when o Wii U playing Wii U games and they worked. Usually u will hear ur drive making a clicking sound if underpowered. Or drive might not have been initializing after the softboot to vwii

There’s a hardrive sleep mode option that u can turn it on or off
Go into disc management and at the copy/delete data and format screen press and hold down, minus, and plus for several seconds until option pops up
Idk if that may help ur drive or not b4 u changed it around

 

[Skarekrow73]

Yeah, really weird.

I had other drives that would click running off one port and wouldn't spin up. This one worked fine, but yeah, you're probably right, the softboot to Wii mode was killing it.

I had no idea about that setting, I wonder if it would have made a difference. I assume the softboot forces the drive to spin down though, probably that setting only affects Wii U mode.

Using a different drive now and don't want to mess with anything but if anyone needs an answer to this question I'd be happy to try it, just want to avoid touching my current working setup right now unless I have to.

Thanks for your input Tri-Z.

 

[badmanhk]

Hi Skarekrow73,
Nice to know you sorted out you Wii inject problem!
I am encountering very similar problem, except that my Wii U stay in dark screen forever rather than reboot and I am using 1TG external HS with separate power supply......
It will be great if you can share your experience and throw me any suggestions to fix it!

I am using 5.5.2j
Thanks a lot!
Alan