Hacking Why devs not making an emunand?

[TR_mahmutpek]

As title says why? We have kernel exploit and with emunand we can play latest games! Like in the early-mid 3ds scene.

 

[subcon959]

How many non-Nintendo consoles have ever had emuNAND?

 

[TR_mahmutpek]

How many non-Nintendo consoles have ever had emuNAND?

I dont know but I know ps4 can be the first!

 

[KiiWii]

RedNAND could be more possible?

 

[TR_mahmutpek]

RedNAND could be more possible?

I hope it will be!

 

[linuxares]

I dont know but I know ps4 can be the first!

then make it?

 

[subcon959]

Not even PS3 had it so I think you can forget about it. The best that will happen is some sort of CFW where fake-signing is not needed.

 

[KiiWii]

Not even PS3 had it so I think you can forget about it. The best that will happen is some sort of CFW where fake-signing is not needed.

I imagine it could be like haxchi, flatz (or someone else) will cleverly sign one pkg for use on any retail FW, and it will trigger Debug & HEN.

No CFW, no Rednand/emunand, just a Debug/HEN loader.

 

[subcon959]

Yeah, it's just a matter of convenience now. Although, the EZ card sort of handles that nicely too so I don't even feel like I need a launcher that much.

 

[Alm]

These days, i feel like emunand became less quirky when it comes to usability. I mean its good to have one for multiple reasons, but i would assume most of the demographic these days rather game on their sysnand.

 

[FR0ZN]

Because a kernel exploit is not sufficient to launch from another device. Look at the Vita, HENKaku also "only" provides kernel access and there is no sign of a emuNAND kinda implementation, even though this system would require something like this the most.

 

[TR_mahmutpek]

then make it?

Sadly, I am not a developer. But I want to do something or help. Maybe a idea

 

[MostlyUnharmful]

I imagine it could be like haxchi, flatz (or someone else) will cleverly sign one pkg for use on any retail FW, and it will trigger Debug & HEN.

Nope, you still need "root" privileges to activate both, that's the part of the kexploit, the privileges escalation. I would like to try a simple thing, but I'm sure the devil is in the details and crypto is not my field.

 

[KiiWii]

Nope, you still need "root" privileges to activate both, that's the part of the kexploit, the privileges escalation. I would like to try a simple thing, but I'm sure the devil is in the details and crypto is not my field.

Its a chicken>egg thing isnt it.

Obviously needs exploit to begin with.. but:

Run hen, install this fantasy "autohen pkg", reboot.

Run autohen pkg and it loads webkit exploit, loads kernel, "welcome to hen", closes.

Basically automates the process of opening browser, exploit, ps button.

Is that so inconceivable?

 

[linuxares]

Emunand might be possible depending on HOW the system is built or not. It's not like it's just "Well let's do a Emunand because why not?".

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Its a chicken>egg thing isnt it.

Obviously needs exploit to begin with.. but:

Run hen, install this fantasy "autohen pkg", reboot.

Run autohen pkg and it loads webkit exploit, loads kernel, "welcome to hen", closes.

Basically automates the process of opening browser, exploit, ps button.

Is that so inconceivable?

That's kind of what I did with my Vita before Enso.

 

[DinohScene]

PS3 has a Dualboot FW.

Problem with the PS4 is is that only a portion gets stored on the NAND.
The rest gets stored on the HDD.

Even if you have a "emunand" it'll conflict with other data.

 

[KiiWii]

Emunand might be possible depending on HOW the system is built or not. It's not like it's just "Well let's do a Emunand because why not?".

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That's kind of what I did with my Vita before Enso.

The email trick?

 

[linuxares]

The email trick?

Nah, I just had my browser autoboot the .xyz url.

 

[KiiWii]

Nah, I just had my browser autoboot the .xyz url.

I seem to remember having an email link or something.

I just wonder if its possible to change the hardcoded userguide url to hen or something by editing a file or registry value. I dunno where its held.

Like the browser enabler, that could possibly be perma too.

I sold my vita a while back with sd2vita. Never played the damned thing.

 

[wolfmankurd]

Its a chicken>egg thing isnt it.

Obviously needs exploit to begin with.. but:

Run hen, install this fantasy "autohen pkg", reboot.

Run autohen pkg and it loads webkit exploit, loads kernel, "welcome to hen", closes.

Basically automates the process of opening browser, exploit, ps button.

Is that so inconceivable?

Haxchi works so easily because the Nintendo doesnt sign and verify the data in apps allowing you to overwright the ROM in a VC emulator with an exploit that does the magic. Sony might verify all of the signed code a package will load so we can't overwrite even a small part of it.
OrbisOS is huge and have loads of bells and whistles like Mono and Webkit browsers. Persistance is definitely out there!