Why are JRPGs so Complex?

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  1. AceWarhead
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    sometimes, i would be playing a jrpg like final fantasy, and its so complex!
    some times its the battle system
    BUT most of the rimes, its the stats. Alot of them have like zillions of stats. It's mind-boggling.
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  2. machomuu

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    Final Fantasy really isn't complex, there are other, much more complex ones. Can't think of any at the moment, though.
     
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    Battling in Final Fantasy got different. FFX-2 was, imo, the last best battle system used.

    But the stats and spells aren't hard to learn at all :/
     
  4. Nujui

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    You want complexity?

    Play one of the Ultmia games (remember one where the inventory screen is really complex)
     
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    Though I will note that Ultima are Western RPGs.
     
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    Still, it's more complex then JRPGS imo.

    JRPGs are really not that complex.
     
  7. Spiderkid

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    I've never found any Final Fantasy to be complex at all, though I haven't played V or XII. The only time I find a JRPG to be complex is when it's a ridiculous strategy/tactical thing (Disgaea, Cross-Edge, etc.), or when the item creation/customization gets out of hand (Star Ocean 3, Xenoblade, etc.)
     
  8. Leo Cantus

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    I understand what you mean, sometimes the stats and customization can be overwhelming. The battle systems vary across JRPG's. They follow the same basic turn based formula; but most are different, some complex and some basic. Take FF13 for example, great game but in battle most of the time you're just pressing X as the game automatically uses the best spells and attacks for you.
     
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    Final Fantasy- Retrieve the "4" crystals and gather them in one place to be taken by the baddies, which summons the end of the world and fight the
    baddies and win, and realize that the "4" crystals were not needed for the safety of the planet.

    I think this covers FF 1-5

    I dunno about the later FFs but- revolt against the current government
     
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    That's not what FF4 is about, AKAIK not 5 either, just the NES ones.
     
  11. Leo Cantus

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    Very basically covers them, there's actually a lot more to it than that, especially in 4. But whatever.
     
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    I wasnt talking about Final Fantasy 4. I just referred to the amount of crystals, which is "4" because i didnt wanna spoil the plot.
     
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    You just said "That covers FF 1-5", that's not what 4 is about.
     
  14. Nujui

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    It's really opinion.

    I just think it's more complex.
     
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    im trying real hard to not sound like a troll, but wasnt FF4 about getting the crystals to save Rosa from Gomez. and in turn allowed them to go to the "place" of the final battle??
     
  16. machomuu

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    How so?
     
  17. Leo Cantus

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    You must have played it a very long time ago, it's Golbez not Gomez! [​IMG] Anyway, it's much more than that. But yes it involves crystals, so you're kind of right.
     
  18. Nujui

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    How people view how complex things are.

    I may find things complex but others don't.
     
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    That's not what I meant -_-, I'm not that stupid

    I meant "why?".
     
  20. Nujui

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    Oh, sorry, I thought you meant what I said first about it being opinion.

    Well, it just seems more complex to me then to the more modern and old RPGS to me. Not saying that's bad, but that's how I feel.

    It's just the way Ultima plays that makes it seem complex to me is all.