Who creates cheat codes completes the games?

[NeoGranzon]

Hi all guys,i've been asking myself a question for some time:who creates cheat code (like me)completes the games or not?

 

[subcon959]

Complete the game, yes. Beat the game, no.

 

[NeoGranzon]

Complete the game, yes. Beat the game, no.

Sorry,don't understand what do you mean by beat the game.

 

[subcon959]

Sorry,don't understand what do you mean by beat the game.

I might not have understood your question either lol. When you said complete the game how did you mean it? I assumed you meant does it still count as completing a game if you use cheats.

 

[JuanMena]

I might not have understood your question either lol. When you said complete the game how did you mean it? I assumed you meant does it still count as completing a game if you use cheats.

He's asking if the people that creates the cheats has to complete the game beforehand.

 

[NeoGranzon]

I might not have understood your question either lol. When you said complete the game how did you mean it? I assumed you meant does it still count as completing a game if you use cheats.

I mean if they are tested until the game is completed,to see if they create crashes they always work.

 

[JuanMena]

who creates cheat code (like me)completes the games or not?

Depends. There are tools to check what values changes at any given time. These values can either be in code or hexadecimal. So it gets kinda predictable if you use said tools. No need to finish the game, just know what values inside the code changes what and find a way to edit them.

 

[JuanMena]

@NeoGranzon

 

[NeoGranzon]

Depends. There are tools to check what values changes at any given time. These values can either be in code or hexadecimal. So it gets kinda predictable if you use said tools. No need to finish the game, just know what values inside the code changes what and find a way to edit them.

I know very well that these tolls exist, but there are codes that even created by these tools don't work because the game has been tried for a short time,done only one mission and playing hard and progressing,maybe there are no codes that you would need.

 

[FAST6191]

I am not sure where you are heading.

If you mean "does playing the game with cheats mean you can't say you completed the game? Or at the very least that you played a different game to presumably everybody else." then probably varies by the cheat and is its whole own argument -- does dodging grinding in a game that mostly tests reactions mean I did not play the game much like giving myself infinite money and health in a shopkeeper game means I did not really get tested? Some also claim in game existing cheats mean you did not play the game properly but that is a metaphysical argument I will step back from for now (it is however something the developers put in so you get to reconcile that one).

If you mean "if you make/use cheats does it ruin your enjoyment of the game such that you don't want to play it to the end?" then in my case usually no as I use cheats to make things more enjoyable. Sometimes it is just to get to the end of something.

Frankly cheats are good stuff. "My screen, my rules" means I play things how I like and am very content with that setup. The devs can have what they intended people to play but there are no sacred cows in my world. My screen, my time, my rules and fuck the intent of the original devs if I so desire.

 

[NeoGranzon]

I am not sure where you are heading.

If you mean "does playing the game with cheats mean you can't say you completed the game? Or at the very least that you played a different game to presumably everybody else." then probably varies by the cheat and is its whole own argument -- does dodging grinding in a game that mostly tests reactions mean I did not play the game much like giving myself infinite money and health in a shopkeeper game means I did not really get tested? Some also claim in game existing cheats mean you did not play the game properly but that is a metaphysical argument I will step back from for now (it is however something the developers put in so you get to reconcile that one).

If you mean "if you make/use cheats does it ruin your enjoyment of the game such that you don't want to play it to the end?" then in my case usually no as I use cheats to make things more enjoyable. Sometimes it is just to get to the end of something.

Frankly cheats are good stuff. "My screen, my rules" means I play things how I like and am very content with that setup. The devs can have what they intended people to play but there are no sacred cows in my world. My screen, my time, my rules and fuck the intent of the original devs if I so desire.

Sorry @FAST6191 ,maybe you didn't quite understand what i meant by my question:i asked if whoever creates cheat codes for games completes them.
I do,for example in an RPG or in a game where there are many characters you have to complete the game to have HP,MP etc ... for all the characters you can't play 5 minutes and you find codes for 2 things and maybe the rest is enough there is no more.
Here is the meaning of my question,i hope i have explained it well.
However i also use cheat codes,because i no longer have time like i used to and i like to finish games faster and create them because this is also a form of modding.