Hacking What's better..Softmod or Hardmod?

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Chip all the way works on any current firmware, no need to mess with system files such as ios, no need to downgrade unless you want to, or have trucha iso's and real GC booting with a chip you can have as close as possible to a natural system, if your drive allows get a real chip with 6x not one of those ribbon chips.

Chip and preloader =win

Oh and they have some really cool LED's that flash
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If you have the money and don't mind opening your Wii, get a Modchip. Theres alot more benefits.
 
Where are the benefits? Im new to hacking but I used softmod


First there are a lot of different kind of hard chips out there and they release new versions so whats to say I wouldnt be buying a new one 2 months from now due to some protection Nintendo has implemented?


I downgraded my IOS and did everything and didn't have any problems. From what I understand the people that brick their wii skipped steps or did the wrong thing.



With hardmodding you can play backups like regular games but there is more to soft modding than just playing backups. What about oldschool games like N64 and earlier that you can download and install for free with a softmod? What about the Playstation mod that is being developed?


If you only wanna play backup games on your wii, then yeah hardmod may be the way to go. I just find softmod more flexible. I haven't had any issues with game speeds or anything with my softmod either like some has stated here.


Maybe im off since I am semi new to hacking the wii but other than the ease of installation, softmod wins from what I have seen so far.
 
Zephirus said:
With hardmodding you can play backups like regular games but there is more to soft modding than just playing backups. What about oldschool games like N64 and earlier that you can download and install for free with a softmod? What about the Playstation mod that is being developed?

That's just homebrew, that's not really modding. I see modding as making your Wii backup-capable.
 
Well you are probably right in that case.


But how do you know what chip to get and that it will be good as new games come out? I thought about getting one that doesn't require any soldering but there are so many chips out there right now. I have no clue what to look at.
 
Blasingame said:
Anyone know if softmodding voids warranty? I'll take a guess Nintendo isn't dumb on softmodding and updated their warranty contracts. I was wondering if anyone found exact words in the warranty contract.
It probably does. It's just easier to commit warranty fraud with a softmod.
 
personally, i would avoid hardmod (modchip) at all cost.
first i got d2pro v3 on a wii clip (meaning solderless), installed it, gave me the inching problem.
so i went to see a professional installer... he couldn't fix it and suggested me to take the clip off then solder it on.
i paid him to do so.
no more inching issue, but now, after playing a game then ejecting the disc, wii won't accept another disc.
i have to turn it off then turn it back on in order to put another disc in.
it was driving me crazy and i just had to take it out.
then i did the softmod and i am very satisfied with it.... x3 times drive speed is the only thing that i don't like about it (compared to the modchip).
and it's not just me... there are so many people having issues with their modchips.
 
As it stands a chip installed by a competent person with genuine parts will give you the most from your Wii. if some sort of protection breaks the chip in the future and it cant be overcome with an update its not exactly going to break the bank to upgrade. Considering the fact that most modded users don't pay for games i consider the price of one or two chips pretty insignificant.

I guess the best answer to the initial post is it depends on what your capable of, or are willing to spend aswell as how capable or retarded you are in undertaking your chosen method.
 
Well, softmod is now able to play multi Wii ISOs on the same DVD (with Wiiscrubber 1.4). Are the chip mods able too?

I think I will pass to chips only when they will provide USB hard disk iso reading!
 
hardmod. softmod if you dont know how to solder or cant find someone to do it reasonably priced. or if you dont have mony. For me i'm waiting to get some money then hopefully i can find someone to do it for a reasonable price. but as far as compadbility goes i'd go with the hardmod.

Also if you wanted to and if you needed to get your wii repaired like if the dvd drive was messed up. you could just wipe everything off your wii for softmodders
 
There's absolutely, positively NO good reason to use a hardmod over a soft mod. Generally people who reccomend hard mods are those who were impatiant, already have a chip installed and are trying to justify their expense.

Opening up a console, especially if you don't know what you are doing, ESPECIALLY if you don't have to is always a bad idea. The wii inparticular is a very tiny console with very small solder points. And while I am a huge fan of solderless solutions, the one's available for the wii don't have a solid mounting point (like a screw or something to screw it down with which is what was used on the classic xbox) so you could run into issues. Also the ribbon cables in the wii are quite fragile.

As for compatability issues, since the gamecube loaders were released there is NOTHING you can't do with a softmod. The audiofix and other issues are just a release or two away so don't be fooled into thinking there is better compatability with a hard mod. I've seen just as many "issues" posted about running game XXX with a chip than with a loader. 99 times out of 100 it's just a media issue.

So a hard mod only has one single thing going for it, namely faster read speeds. But I'll remind you that games aren't constantly loading huge amounts of data off the disc.... if they were then the game would slow to a crawl even at full read speed.

Also the thing about fmv's stuttering is flat out false. 90% of the time it's a result of the person burning to crappy media. The only legitimate slowdown I've seen is on Wario shake it, but that game is odd to say the least, using virtually uncompressed full 480p video.
 
HowardC said:
There's absolutely, positively NO good reason to use a hardmod over a soft mod. Generally people who reccomend hard mods are those who were impatiant, already have a chip installed and are trying to justify their expense.

That's just nonsense, I can say the same thing about softmodders. "They're trying to bash the superior modchips because they don't have the money for it". That's just as stupid.
 
Yep, HowardC is right.
Just watch for topic with people still getting 001 and 002 errors, they all have a chipped wii.
While this bug has been fixed ages ago for us softmodded ones.
 
Don Killah said:
Yep, HowardC is right.
Just watch for topic with people still getting 001 and 002 errors, they all have a chipped wii.
While this bug has been fixed ages ago for us softmodded ones.

Gecko OS can be used for that, or even a loader. The modchip will still kick in then and run the game at full speed.
And I like the total compatibility. I never have to worry about a game not running. Burn & play, always.
 
The 001 or 002 error does not occur on my modded Wii (Epoxy with D2pro soldered). I play every game just fine. Before my chip I used the softmod. It works great but there were many things that irritated me very badly.

- The slowdowns in Need For Speed Undercover for example (drive in a white world)
- The Disc access on COD5 (Loud noise, even when I used Verbatim)
- Games that doesn't work, Guitar Hero with lag. Frustrating!
- Patched ISO to IOS 249

Maybe small things but I did'n't like it.

When the D2pro was installed all those things vannished. Get a chip much better in my oppinion.

I you think my english is bad, so be it.
 
QUOTE said:
Yes. But that does not make a softmod superior. They're just 2 different methods.
Yep you're right, i'm with you.
The only diff to me is just that one method is free and the other not.
For most of the things, both world have the same stuff... the only downsize i can think of is, that chips allows to run backups at 6x,while softmods only 3x, right?
 

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