What happend to RTS games?

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  1. lolboy
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    So what happend to games like Command & Conqure? Not hip anymore? I would love games like that on Nintendo Switch.
     
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  2. Subtle Demise

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    I would guess they just don't make much money anymore. I do kind of miss games like Age of Empires and C & C and Starcraft.
     
  3. enderer

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    mobas happened
     
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  4. Lilith Valentine

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    Honestly majority of RTS games were being produced by a handful of companies who just moved on. Command & Conquer for example stopped being made when EA made one bad game and decided that was good enough a reason to stop making them. Blizzard seemed to have moved their focus from RTS to MMO's/MOBAs over RTSs. And Microsoft is being Microsoft.
     
  5. kikongokiller

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    But they've just released a new C&C game! Can't believe people are still hating on them despite knowing what's best for the fans.

    /s
     
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  6. Jack Daniels

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    For what are they the best?
    • You know they demand acces to all of your harddrive no questions asked?
    • You know they demand the right to share your private data with anyone they think might be interested?
    • You know this company kills every good gaming company so they can sell really bad shit?
    • You know they don't deliver thier promises?

    list of game companies and game series they killed (please add if missing data):
    • Original HQ in San Mateo, California, moved to Redwood City in 1998.
    • Kesmai (known also as GameStorm), founded in 1981, acquired in 1999, closed in 2001.
    • EA Black Box in Burnaby, Canada, founded in 1998, acquired in 2002, closed on April 2013.
    • EA Mobile Brazil in São Paulo, Brazil, closed in 2013.
    • EA Phenomic in Ingelheim, Germany, founded as Phenomic Game Development in 1997, acquired August 2006 and closed down in 2013.
    • Playfish in London, England, acquired in 2009, closed down in 2013.
    • EA North Carolina in Morrisville, North Carolina, closed in 2013[89]
    • Victory Games in Los Angeles, California, also has offices in Austin, Texas and Shanghai, China; founded in 2010 and closed down in 2013 as Danger Close.
    • Mythic Entertainment in Fairfax, Virginia, founded as Interworld Productions in 1995, acquired in June 2006 and closed down in May 2014.
    • Maxis in Emeryville, California, founded in 1987, acquired in July 1997, and closed down in March 2015.
    • Origin Systems in Austin, Texas founded in 1983, acquired in 1992, closed in 2004.
    • Waystone was disbanded in November 2014.[90]
    • EA Salt Lake in Salt Lake City, Utah, founded as Headgate Studios, founded in 1992, acquired December 2006. Closed in April 2017.
    • BioWare in Montreal, Quebec, Canada, founded in March 2009, merged into Motive Studios in August 2017.
    • Visceral Games in Redwood City, California, also has an office in Shanghai, China; founded as EA Redwood Shores in 1998. Closed in October 2017.
    • EA Bright Light, in Guildford, England, formerly EA UK, closed in 2011.
    • Pandemic Studios in Los Angeles, California and Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, founded in 1998, acquired October 2007 from Elevation Partners, closed November 17, 2009.
    • EA Chicago in Hoffman Estates, Illinois, founded in 1990 as NuFX, acquired in 2004, closed November 6, 2007.
    • EA UK in Chertsey, England, moved to EA Bright Light in Guildford.
    • DICE Canada in London, Ontario, started in 1998, acquired DICE fully October 2, 2006; closed DICE Canada studio hours later.
    • Easy Studios in Stockholm, Sweden. Founded in 2008 developing PC games for EA's new Play4Free series. Merged to DICE, after the shutdown of Play4Free series in 2015.
    • EA Pacific (known previously as Burst Studios and Westwood Pacific) in Irvine, California, formerly part of Virgin Interactive, Founded in 1995, acquired with Westwood and Virgin Interactive USA in 1998, closed in 2003
    • Westwood Studios in Las Vegas, Nevada, founded in 1987, acquired from Virgin Interactive Entertainment in August 1998, merged into EA Los Angeles in 2003.
    • Maxis in Walnut Creek, California, founded in 1987, acquired in June 1997, folded into Redwood Shores (now Visceral Games) in 2004.
    • EA Seattle in Seattle, Washington, founded in 1982 as Manley & Associates, acquired January 29, 1996, closed in 2002
    • EA Baltimore in Baltimore, Maryland, established in 1996 as part of Origin, closed in 2000
    • Creative Wonders (Joint Venture between EA and the ABC): Founded in 1994, sold to Mattel Interactive in 1999.
    • Bullfrog Productions in Guildford, England, founded in 1987, acquired in 1995,[88] merged with EA UK and effectively closed in 2001.
    so again what did you say???
     
  7. thekarter104

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    EA is the reason.

    Thankfully you can still play the old games online though.
    But would be nice if they had re-releases on the Switch.
     
  8. kikongokiller

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    Sorry to make you go on a vent filled tirade, but there was a tiny little /s in my previous comment, which indicates sarcasm.
     
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  9. Youkai

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    The Same happened to Point and Click Adventures ...
    Was my favorite genre when I was a child and still love them, lucky some indie developer (which often are not that good sadly) and daedalic made some new ones in the last few years, still nothing compared to the good old times where more then 50% of the games made were Point and Click Adventure XD

    But yeah a good RTS like Generals (don't even need any flashy super grafic just something that doesn't look like its more then 10 years old) with some new terraints, buildings, units and a small ammount of new features maybe and it would be an instand buy.
     
  10. DinohScene

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    These days it's all about battle royale...
    Less and less games are focused on storymode already.
     
  11. T-hug

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    Never been into RTS they're just too stressful.
     
  12. FAST6191

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    I don't know if I can +1 that.

    Point and click I would have said was technology moving on. Same reason we don't have text adventures, or indeed point and click replaced text adventure.

    Alternatively much like someone said above with the moba fad possibly being a thing that pulled focus it could be point and click in the classic lucasarts or western takes on the matter had their focus pulled by hidden object games.
    This feels more like space sims

    Artistically I would say there was much left to explore with point and click, as evidenced by a bunch of DS games when people realised.

    Back on topic I should also note Homeworld got a fairly nice remaster the other year as well as a prequel in Homeworld: Deserts of Kharak. StarCraft: Remastered was also a thing not so long ago.

    Depending upon what you like you might also consider some of the things like Hearts of Iron, Frostpunk or even some of the roguelites/roguelikes in things like FTL: Faster Than Light, Convoy and other efforts there. They scratch much the same itch for me. The Total War franchise also saw its resurgence continue with a whole bunch of games. I should also say look at mods as there are and have long been quite interesting ones (ignoring it being a mod that spawned this DOTA/MOBA lark many of the best mods I have ever played have been such). Open source have a few interesting things as well, especially if you like the more old school approaches.
     
  13. DragorianSword

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    Red Alert 2 and Battle for Middle-Earth both still have a very strong modding community that regularly release really high quality mods with new story modes, factions and multiplayer maps.
    I'm pretty sure the same is the case for other RTS games.

    There are also a couple of kickstarters for RTS games from Indie developers that I've seen.
    Iron Harvest is definitely one I'm keeping my eye on, even though I prefer mine in a more 'fantastical' or 'alternative timeline' setting:
    https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kingartgames/iron-harvest

    The big competitors pretty much dropped RTS though.
     
  14. radicalwookie

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    I want some next gen Red Alert or Warcraft in my life. Damn it I even want you Earth 2150
     
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    Red Alert 2 still gets mod releases? I did not know that. Last mod I played was for C&C generals
     
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    My favorite at the moment is Mental Omega: http://mentalomega.com/
    The complete mod will add a new campaign of about 70 missions and a new faction.
    At the moment about 3/4th of all of this is playable.

    There's a lot more mods though.
    Red Alert 2 mod list: https://www.moddb.com/games/cc-red-alert-2
    RA2 - Yuri's Revenge mod list: https://www.moddb.com/games/cc-red-alert-yuris-revenge/mods

    I did a quick search on moddb.com and there are still mods being developed for nearly all C&C games.
     
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    There is a lot of small indie RTS titles out and more in development, it's not like the genre is completely gone but it's limited to small studios and enthusiasts. The big studios don't want to risk the kind of money it would take to develop a large AAA title on a genre that's not currently very popular and can't really be ported to other platforms.
     
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    RTS is still a genre that i miss, luckily atleast there are some grand stratagy games like stellaris and hearts of iron 4, but it's not the same as it used to be, the fast paced RTS games like the command and conquer games. The only one that still comes close to the genre RTS that is still alive imo is starcraft 2.
     
  19. Jack Daniels

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    both starcrafts still gets updates, and warcraft III and up still get updates.
    but i feel your pain...
    try (if you got starcraft 2) mass recall it's a mod but a real good one.
     
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  20. Taleweaver

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    This is probably the best explanation for the situation. Truth is that there are still quite some RTS'es being made. Some pretty decent ones, even. I listed the ones I know not too long ago here, so I don't have to repeat myself here. Or wait: in addition to that, you can add the 8-bit trilogy, sins of a solar empire franchise, that homeworld remake, and that warhammer 40'000 RTS game at the very least.


    ...but then reality happens. Last E3, EA comes along and reinvents command & conquer as a mobile game and as a MOBA. It's apparently terrible, but that's not the point: WHY THE HELL DOES ONE GAME GENERATE MORE PUBLICITY THAN THE ENTIRE REST OF THE FREAKIN' REAL TIME STRATEGY GENRE COMBINED ????? :angry:


    Petroglyph games consists of former westwood employees. They've announced 8-bit armies coming to the switch, though it's apparently gone quiet since then.


    I've also heard that tooth and nail is coming to the switch, but that's also gone quiet. Also: I'm not sure it counts.I mean...when a guy like (the former) Totalbiscuit says it's an actual RTS that can be played with a controller then there must be some merit in it. But I cannot attest it being the case until I've played it myself. :unsure:
     
  21. Song of storms

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    They were replaced with MOBAs. You have just one thing to worry about instead of having more than one.
     
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