actually, i spoke too soon. i have created some forwarder channels for wiistation signle rom loaders. when i install the forwarder channels to nand, they open the game fine. however, when i launch them from usb loader gx, with the wad installed on sysnand or emunand, the game ends up not being able to find the wiisxr folder and stays at 0 fps with a black screen, or returning to the wii menu in some cases. launching it from hbc does work correctly. i used v14 .dol from modmii if that helps. any other ideas? thanks again