Unlocking Wii U, nand, drive

Discussion in 'Wii U - Hacking & Backup Loaders' started by Ray Lewis, Jan 29, 2013.

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  1. Ray Lewis
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    Yeah, that stuff was always interesting. Leaves options open I guess. I recall Wii games after scrubbing them; many were nowhere near even 1 GB. Curious to see how large some Wii U games ACTUALLY are with the filler removed.
     
  2. ddrrmm

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    I guess failoverflow is not going to release anything, they didn't intend for anything to release for ps3 either but then there was geohot who profited of their work and released code.
    Thanks for the updates ray.

    and can phaggots get of RL's back? he is the only one contributing to this thread with usefull information, trying to get some info off Efnet etc,
    Every other reply contains some useless message like "just wait", da fuq?
     
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    I never knew that about ps3. I was into it with a guy who said fof was doing it for pride but no release would come. 360 had competitive groups, neutral groups/people, etc. Nobody hid diagrams, methods, etc. Not forever anyway;-). 360 die? PS3 die? Wii die? I bet fof will have keys, unlocks, and if they release it will be as I was told on efnet. Pride to say, "We did it, and we have it but you don't." People sing praises but one of three things seem most likely. No release, tighter group now, show stuff with no real confirmed context, pics with trolls hidden in them. They release like I was told; no keys, no access to WiiU disc drive/nand, and linux. Or they do full release. Told in private message I will look crazy for saying Linux with no access. Contradicts what they said on efnet. So we will see. Wish other groups of would let us know they are working on it. Posted pics, cryptic messages and pictures shared so congrats. I am going with gut; told the truth then damage control when I shared it. Troll to mean they had us believing. I hope I am going wrong;-)

    --Troll refers to A/B diagram people found troll in. Lol, not trolling Nintendo I bet;-)
     
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  4. muskieratboi

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    Okay Ray. I'd like to know what you have to say, but I cannot understand your method of posting.

    Could you please elaborate on what you were told by this apparent F0 member, and what you believe is happening here?

    Now, before you begin typing your reply, I would also ask you to do two things.

    1: Please proofread your post. use bullet points if you have to. make sure your spelling is correct and proper grammar, punctuation, and most of all, paragraph formatting is used.

    2: Be concise. I want to know exactly what happened during this supposed conversation. if you want to blow the lid on F0 and say that they are tolling everyone or that they are complete frauds, you may do so. but provide evidence, and stick to the point.
    I do not want to know what consoles you once owned.
    I do not want to know how you feel about Nintendo.
    I want to know what transpired during this conversation you had.

    Also, in the future, please consider other users when composing forum posts. A majority of the forum community seems to not be able to understand your posts in general.

    A little tact and a bit of grammar goes a LONG way.
     
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    Maybe this is more of what you would like, muskieratboi. Thanks for not flaming and using logic. I suppose I had fun and vented at the same time.

    Here is what I was told on efnet at #wiiudev by one of the "insiders." I went there after seeing Comex' tweet about "Waiting for linux" for the Wii U hacking to continue (another uses asked him about it).

    --Not giving us access to Wii U nand
    --Not telling us how to get to keys for nand or others needed for system
    --Not giving us access to Wii U disc drive
    --Nand uses HMAC/AES encryption; not prone to collisions, impossible to decrypt without key and they have that key
    --Will have access to processors, GPU, and RAM; essentially vWii with linux on top to give access ONLY to these things (mentioned at start of this statement)
    --Reason for not giving access is piracy; no need to have drive/nand access as they see it. Emulators are okay, and only vWii would be fully unlocked totally.

    After I posted this, albeit in some rants, I received a personal message. I will copy/paste this while trying to redact the name (same person on efnet).

    --Message one: "bad move"
    --I responded, bla bla bla, then they said: "told lies and proved you would tell. now you'll look even more crazy and have no infof"
    --Now, others said they are part of fof or damn close to them, they also said; "I'm not even in fail0verflow, lol
    I do know how wii works and was being friendly as you seemed like a really nice guy, but I'm no more priveledged than anyone"
    --They said on efnet to NOT share that conversation. However, I saw two paths; 1.) He told me the truth on efnet and we would not get full unlock. In this case, I did not need anymore info so wanted to try to do everyone here a favor by revealing my information. 2.) He was being devious and in this case, he did lie and I had no reason to trust him. Moreover, people had posted parts of conversations I had in private rooms on efnet; some not even in those rooms that I knew of!!!

    Waiting a while for this awesome system to be unlocked. Another interesting part is that piracy is bad, yet this person said emulators (more powerful given access to some of Wii U hardware) with pirated roms/games were okay. On one hand, it is better than nothing to have what he mentioned; linux without access to anything fof did not want others to have access to. On the other, I considered the A/B diagram, twitter posts, and how some found the troll image in that diagram and taking this with what I was told, I reasoned that was for US and Nintendo. Nintendo; "We beat your security...but won't reveal it we only want linux on it and homebrew to prove to others we did it" and for us; "Unlock it yourselves, not getting these keys or told any information on how to potentially get them." As they have said, those hashes could be virtually ANYTHING. Others pointed out photoshop is effective for such things as pics posted as "Proof" of hacking.

    --Do I think they were photoshopped...undecided, why do that given fof's history of success?
    --Some pointed out, PS3 stuff was not even going to be released BUT geohot released it anyway (sold or did something, you guys know more than me on this).
    --Somebody told me they are doing it for PRIDE, not to release full unlock, but only to say, "We did it, you did not."

    ---->Who knows for sure other than fof? Not giving this person's name out. I may later on but not right now. No need for that, and I cannot verify what they told me. Might not be any release (could be another reason for the troll). Comex did say there would be a release and ONE thing I found is I usually find Comex is forthcoming if you are kind. he said he is waiting on LINUX (tends to jive with what the person told me on efnet). He told me about A/B diagram while it was a mystery. Some knew but I did not;-) I followed what Comex told somebody on twitter into efnet to get somebody to elaborate and then the conversation took place. This is the entire story, with reasons for my thinking. Are we being misled? Are we expecting something when nothing was promised? Was something promised? I only want the truth out.
     
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    Just dance 4 has a lot of assets to it, it really is that large
     
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    Hoping that's not true about f0f restricting what homebrew devs can access. Could open the possibility of a repeat of the PS3 scene, with all the ReDRM dongles. As much as piracy sucks, half-asses hackers profiting from selling needless piracy-enabling devices is worse.
     
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    Clarification; emulators allow for debugging and to see how system works;-). I read into part about emulation with roms being okay. Private message reminded me. Bottom line; going to find out truth, eventually.
     
  11. Ray Lewis
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    To quote directly:
    "couple clarifications: I didn't say emulators + ROMs are acceptable to me. I said emulators are good for running homebrew and for debugging a system. also, I didn't say there were keys. and I also said it wouldn't be locking the system down. it'd be not putting effort into unlocking it for things that aren't desirable (BIG distinction, one takes effort the other takes not doing anything"
     
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  12. Vappy

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    Ahh, that's more understandable. Thanks for the updates, Ray.
     
  13. Ray Lewis
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    Personal message from the source reminded me of that. I wrote something because I took some things to be "Insinuated." What I quoted above this post (my most recent) was a clarification from the source.

    --No problem, had to share either way (lie and why trust source? or truth and not need to find out more). It will turn out to be a lie (I HOPE so) or the truth (maybe in parts).
     
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    Ray i believe that you believe what you where told . I believe that you took bait. IRC regulars often refer to GBAtemp users as GBAFail members. Some members of IRC would even go as far as to offer known GBAtemp "backup" trolls any BS info knowing full well it'll make its way back here , then sit back and laugh out loud at the proceedings that follow . That being said it would help if your presentation of information was indeed ledgible.

    Having been presented with your history of consoles and your experiences of previous console hacking endeavours , im quite surprised to constantly see your surprise at the lack of info/hacks you are recieving for the wiiu , bareing in mind the short life cycle of the WiiU console so far. I fail to see how with the limited catalog of WiiU games currently available , how really a Backup Loader would benefit you enough to persistantly show your annoyance. I would say at best the average game physical ownership for wiiu owners must be around 4 or so . The rest being Eshop purchases. I really dont understand your anger.

    I love this phrase , dunno why but it seems to fit.

    The higher a monkey climbs a tree , the more it shows its ass. :)
     
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    RL all flaming and banter aside, just like you aren't sure if you were told a lie or truth about everything you've posted, allot of us can't verify if you even had this "private chat". All in all it really doesn't matter. A guy named “Stevie Ray Vaughan” could show up tomorrow and state that he had 5 “private conversations” with the "players" and they are going to release the mother of all hacks in the near future. Again it really doesn't matter because it can't be collaborated. If you've been around as long as you say you have you should realize that soon or later someone, somewhere will release a hack. It’s been this way for as long as there been consoles. Its only human nature that someone will want to be the” GOD" on the WiiU scene.
     
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    Ray - Have you noticed that almost every comment you've posted on this site you are raggin'. You enjoy stirring the pot and you know it. Others on here would rather listen to hope not gloom. That's the reason everyone is clowning you. Sharing gibberish is not sharing anything. If you really hate the wiiU scene then feel free to leave it, nobody's gonna stop you. You have every right to your opinions but you have no right to how others feel about them. Got it?
     
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  19. Ray Lewis
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    Lol, good flaming. I said it was true or a lie. Posted it all with "bullets." Some have kids so "Going Newtown" is offensive and could be an actual threat. Not funny given the tragedy. Ignore=mature. Insulting and getting some back playfully, what would you expect? How you are not banned for threats and gross comments? On efnet, megazig, used comex tweet on waiting on linux. I follow marcan, comex, and fof on twitter. Asked comex about A/B diagram then megazig about linux tweet by comex. He then told me. When finished I realized I was lied to OR told the truth. My post with bullets was laid out and easy to follow. A user did not flame so I respected him and made that post. I say anything to people's faces; no limit hold 'em, mma, basketball. I hope I was lied to. Placing people on tilt gets info. Ask mega why he lied, or if he typed the truth. Emotions are a human right. I've never threatened or made sexual comments. I assure you, not mad, typed as I thought. Angry or not, I've not gone nuclear with flaming. Relax yourselves. I did reason out sharing what mega said because I wanted to contribute.
     
  20. raulpica

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    Ray Lewis - PM me some hard proof (IRC logs and nicknames of who said what) and I'll unlock this.

    No one likes this "insider" crap. And we have way too many trolls on here (not saying you might be one, but who knows if someone's trolling you).

    Closing.
     
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