1. outphase

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    As much as I dislike extended warranties (as they're not really extended but concurrent), but Best Buy's PRP (Product Replacement Plan) is great if you do take advantage of it.
     
  2. TheVirus

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    I used it for my DS, which I still need to take back. I returned it once for the broken hinge and my replacement has a dead pixel. I exchanged it back in Nov 06 and haven't had a chance to go back. I'm still under the original warranty but having the PRP allows me to exchange in-store.
     
  3. adgloride

    adgloride Its A Wii Wario
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    Even if your buying the extended warranties, once you open up the wii you invalidate it. Darkforce has given the reasons why. I've broke my xbox and ps1 in the past trying to mod it, It was my fault therefore I bought new consoles. I have also modded a PS2 and my xbox 360. Both of which had 3 year extended warrenties on them.

    They've not broke yet (Touch wood) but I would never think of using the warrenty for it to be replaced. If you open your wii to mod it, make sure if anything goes wrong you can afford to replace it. Why should nintendo have to suffer and in turn the people that mod their consoles but don't expect nintendo to replace them.
     
  4. TheVirus

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    You can't tell the Wii has been opened because there's no security sticker over a screw. If Nintendo would have done that, I wouldn't have modded my Wii. It's their own fault for making the Wii openable without it being noticed by a store employee.
     
  5. adgloride

    adgloride Its A Wii Wario
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    Maybe nintendo made the silly mistake that people were actually still honest.
     
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    That's the stupidest thing that I've ever heard. It's not their fault for making their system "hackable." Just because they didn't put a sticker over a screw doesn't mean that you're alleviated from all responsibly from modifying your system and downloading/burning games.

    If they had put a "security sticker" over a screw, then the mod chips would be sold with replacement security stickers. And then you'd go "Well what the hell Nintendo. It's your own fault I'm modding your system. This security sticker is so easy to get around. You should have welded your case shut." And so on.

    I mean, I'm gonna mod my Wii too really soon. It's not like I'm really against this process or anything. But just don't think that because people have figured out how to bypass the myriad of Wii security features that were put in place it's somehow Nintendo's own fault.
     
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    Perhaps you are not familiar with mod chips, but nevertheless we would like to draw your attention to some important information. Modification microchips (mod chips) circumvent the security embedded into Nintendo's products.


    Thanks Nintendo!! I had no idea this was possible but thanks to this useful update and a little googling I've located many great sites that give more information about these "mod chips" of which you speak.

    My only criticism is that that you did not post information about the best brand of modchip or some pros and cons of each, but all the same thanks for the heads up!
     
  8. aj421

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  9. Heran Bago

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    So you're blaming Nintendo for people stealing their games?
     
  10. DjoeN

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    I would never blame any company for breaking my console cause i modded it.

    I mod it if it gets broke it's my own fault!

    You can't blame Big N/MS/Sony for protecting there stuff. (how would you be if you invented something and could earn millions of bucks with it?)

    You know you break the rules when you open the console!

    I broke my Xbox360, so i bought a new one, (Damned my wife was pissed) BUT i still sended it in for repair (the seal was complete removed on my xbox360) (Repaircenter in Germany) got 3 weeks later a new xbox360, so i sold one after 2 months to see what the best one was, i sold it against the price i bought it, so it was a zero bucks operation. if the returned it without making it or replacing it (with a nice note that the console warranty was voided, like my neighbours one) i would have not argued and agreed with the situation.

    (the seal was complete removed on my xbox360)
     
  11. Hooya

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    I think he's just saying that there are plenty of ways that they could have made it much more difficult to circumvent. Proprietary media (disk would be fine, just a format that truly is unreadable by other systems) would be one step. The other would be to do the MS thing and remove the physical access to the serial port that current modchips use. I mean, hell, the points we connect to have no use other than to access the drive chip for debugging purposes. Remove those points and epoxy over a necessary component so we can't get to it without destroying something. Change the password on the chip to something that isn't just the GC password in lowercase and make the drive firmware require encrypted code.

    If Nintendo wanted to slow piracy they could have done a much better job than they did. [​IMG] That being said, I'm sure glad they didn't. [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  12. Strider

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    I say f.. the big N. I BOUGHT the console, it's my PROPERTY, and I can do what I WANT with it.
     
  13. Warm Woolly Shee

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    Piracy is wrong unless you're me.
     
  14. Heran Bago

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    Yeah but my point was that adgloride is saying that Nintendo's to blame that people do illegal things with/via mod chips. That's the same as saying if you leave your door unlocked, it's your fault if all your stuff gets stolen. I'd like to imagine that it is the thief to blame...
     
  15. adgloride

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    I was saying Nintendo could have done a lot better if they used a different media other than DVD, or at least made the dvd drive more secure. Nintendo must have known how easy the xbox 360 was to mod using a drive hack. You mod the wii in a similar way to the xbox 360, the only difference is you use a chip.

    Warm Woolly Sheep: Piracy is wrong, but what hurts the industry the most is someone buying the wii, buys no original games and has the sole intention of modding it right away and pirating every single game. The prices of games are way too much, also theirs games you want to see what they are like before you buy them. Fitting a mod chip is the best way to do this. If you don't like the game, you don't buy the original.
     
  16. cheesyPOOF5

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    Don't bite the hand that feeds you...
     
  17. Chiisuchianu

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    i do feel bad for nintendo having to refund or repair all the bricked consoles. thats fucked up and they should definitely be protected against that. its fraud. i havnt boughten a console yet so i dont know, but shouldnt they have the little sticker that voids the warranty if broken?

    ...anyway how can modding your own property be illegal? that law seems unconstitutional and i dont believe its true. now what you do with that modded console is another issue, but the modding itself couldnt possibly be illegal. how can someone dictate what another does with their own property?
     
  18. cheesyPOOF5

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    Because people mod it to steal their property.
     
  19. Taras

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    For one thing, it doesn't help that every single gbatemp thread these days has kids crowing about their l337 R4s an WiiKeys.

    That said, there will never be a completely unhackable console/handheld/DVD player/computer/Audio system/etc. so Nintendo needs to shut up and accept it or go back to selling just Japanese playing cards.
     
  20. Chiisuchianu

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    doesnt matter. people use guns to kill other people doesnt mean guns should be illegal. there are many useful things about modding that has nothing to do with intellectual property theft. i think theyre just scaring people, modding your own property isnt illegal, stealing is.
     
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