The situation in Ukraine...

[KingVamp]

… weird but does explain the lack of involvement from some new “members”

I hope the future does a better job at keeping these bots in check, not just when things hit the fan.

 

[UnderJinx]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...opters-strike-oil-facility-INSIDE-Russia.html

Ukraine helicopters hits oil refinery.
Hope it slows the russians. Maybe it haven't been comfirmed yet but it would be cool if they had.

But why would russians blow it up them selves. It would be a sign of weakness and other things.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

Is he a Russian bot/sympathizer for admitting this? Are the mainstream media going to be Russian bots/sympathizers for finally admitting this? That the ruble is not going down and Putin's approval rating is up?

I would think so, since Ukraine is clearly winning and Putin is clearly losing even with the support of that facist cheetoman Trump.

 

[Xzi]

Is he a Russian bot/sympathizer for admitting this? Are the mainstream media going to be Russian bots/sympathizers for finally admitting this? That the ruble is not going down and Putin's approval rating is up?

I would think so, since Ukraine is clearly winning and Putin is clearly losing even with the support of that facist cheetoman Trump.

It's now a crime punishable by prison time to not support Putin, and thousands of dissenters have already left Russia as a result. Like everything else coming out of Russian state-controlled media since this invasion began, it's meaningless.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

It's now a crime punishable by prison time to not support Putin, and thousands of dissenters have already left Russia as a result. Like everything else coming out of Russian state-controlled media since this invasion began, it's meaningless.

And the ruble rebounding? Is that meaningless despite all the sanctions on Russia? Call me a bot all you want, but it seems like to me Russia isn't collapsing due to the Ukraine invasion as everyone thinks it is. Even if dissenters left Russia and all that's left are Putin supporters and people who have no choice to support, it's still support nonetheless. This isn't me gushing over Putin or being a Kremlin and people like to throw that around as the new insult, I'm just observing and sharing what's going on right now.

 

[Xzi]

And the ruble rebounding? Is that meaningless despite all the sanctions on Russia?

Yes. What difference does it make if there's still nobody willing to do business in Russia?

Call me a bot all you want, but it seems like to me Russia isn't collapsing due to the Ukraine invasion as everyone thinks it is.

Russia has lost tens of thousands of troops and not managed to secure a single objective for more than a day or two. Ukraine has pushed them so far back that they're now starting to bomb targets inside of Russia. Putin has already lost, and unless Russia agrees to rebuild the entirety of Ukraine after their withdrawal, their economy will never be the same again in our lifetime.

Even if dissenters left Russia and all that's left are Putin supporters and people who have no choice to support, it's still support nonetheless.

First, we have no way of verifying that those numbers are even accurate, and second no, coerced support is not the same thing as genuine support.

 

[djpannda]

And the ruble rebounding? Is that meaningless despite all the sanctions on Russia? Call me a bot all you want, but it seems like to me Russia isn't collapsing due to the Ukraine invasion as everyone thinks it is. Even if dissenters left Russia and all that's left are Putin supporters and people who have no choice to support, it's still support nonetheless. This isn't me gushing over Putin or being a Kremlin and people like to throw that around as the new insult, I'm just observing and sharing what's going on right now.

.bot ? no, and Facebook informed individual ? yes!
lol love how people really trying to push =
1.Russian media ( where you get 15 years for going against the government) = never lies
2. USA Media ( free market ) = Never trust


Ruble is being artificially held up as the Russian stock market is still not open and the fact that stock makerts from other countries have stoped deal with Russian stocks and currency.

Putin is hoping to starve off the Stock market before they are able to claim victory. and the news that Europe is trying to be off Russian Gass by the end of 2022 is really going to destroy Russian assets for the Long Haul.

 

[Coto]

So these innocent citizens in Bucha got "de nazified", huh?



And before someone says "hey, it's war, it's bound to happen", i'm not seeing Ukrainians mass killing innocent Russians.

 

[linuxares]

And the ruble rebounding? Is that meaningless despite all the sanctions on Russia? Call me a bot all you want, but it seems like to me Russia isn't collapsing due to the Ukraine invasion as everyone thinks it is. Even if dissenters left Russia and all that's left are Putin supporters and people who have no choice to support, it's still support nonetheless. This isn't me gushing over Putin or being a Kremlin and people like to throw that around as the new insult, I'm just observing and sharing what's going on right now.

They are using their reserves at the moment. Also... Bouncing from something low like that to less low isn't a rebound

Edit https://www.reuters.com/business/russias-rouble-rebound-is-not-real-it-seems-2022-04-01/

 

[BitMasterPlus]

Yes. What difference does it make if there's still nobody willing to do business in Russia?

Russia is becoming more self sufficient from all of this, which will benefit them in the long run.

Russia has lost tens of thousands of troops and not managed to secure a single objective for more than a day or two. Ukraine has pushed them so far back that they're now starting to bomb targets inside of Russia. Putin has already lost, and unless Russia agrees to rebuild the entirety of Ukraine after their withdrawal, their economy will never be the same again in our lifetime.

I know Russia lost troops, but from what I've seen, unless I missed something, it doesn't look like they're getting pushed back, but pushing more into Ukraine.

First, we have no way of verifying that those numbers are even accurate, and second no, coerced support is not the same thing as genuine support.

So you don't know how many left Russia then? So them maybe the number that left wasn't enough to make a dent in him losing support. You said thousands of people left, so I was going by that. And support is support, forced or not. It doesn't really matter if it's genuine, all that matters is that he has the backing to do what he needs to do, regardless if they like him or not.

 

[BitMasterPlus]

They are using their reserves at the moment. Also... Bouncing from something low like that to less low isn't a rebound

Edit https://www.reuters.com/business/russias-rouble-rebound-is-not-real-it-seems-2022-04-01/

That's another site which regularly lies, so I'm not putting my trust or stock in them either. If the ruble really is still failing by the end of all of this, then we'll see Russia fully collapse. Right now it seems Russia is getting stronger and will soon take Ukraine. Once again, I'm not a Russian bot nor do I support what Putin is doing or like what he's doing, I'm just going from what I've seen and heard from reports, but it's getting harder and harder to try to discern what is true and what's fake news because of how untrustworthy the mainstream media is and all the propaganda they've put out for years now.

But hey, you might be right. As usual, gotta wait and see how this all ends.

 

[kenlee168]

WW3 inevitable. Putin has really no option. even if he end the invasion now, he will faced war criminal charges.

 

[JoeBloggs777]

And the ruble rebounding? Is that meaningless despite all the sanctions on Russia? Call me a bot all you want, but it seems like to me Russia isn't collapsing due to the Ukraine invasion as everyone thinks it is. Even if dissenters left Russia and all that's left are Putin supporters and people who have no choice to support, it's still support nonetheless. This isn't me gushing over Putin or being a Kremlin and people like to throw that around as the new insult, I'm just observing and sharing what's going on right now.

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GDP predicted to shrink 10%-15% this year

 

[JoeBloggs777]

That's another site which regularly lies, so I'm not putting my trust or stock in them either. If the ruble really is still failing by the end of all of this, then we'll see Russia fully collapse. Right now it seems Russia is getting stronger and will soon take Ukraine.

Lies, is this really from the Constitution of the Russian Federation ? , freedoms of ideas and speech, censorship shall be banned, cant be , not from the lies Putin tells

Article 29

1. Everyone shall be guaranteed the freedom of ideas and speech.

2. The propaganda or agitation instigating social, racial, national or religious hatred and strife shall not be allowed. The propaganda of social, racial, national, religious or linguistic supremacy shall be banned.

3. No one may be forced to express his views and convictions or to reject them.

4. Everyone shall have the right to freely look for, receive, transmit, produce and distribute information by any legal way. The list of data comprising state secrets shall be determined by a federal law.

5. The freedom of mass communication shall be guaranteed. Censorship shall be banned.

http://www.constitution.ru/en/10003000-03.htm

 

[Xzi]

Russia is becoming more self sufficient from all of this, which will benefit them in the long run.

Literally their only resource is oil. They can't grow their own coffee, produce natural sugar, or so many other things people consider day-to-day necessities. Self-sufficiency in a global economy is nigh impossible.

I know Russia lost troops, but from what I've seen, unless I missed something, it doesn't look like they're getting pushed back, but pushing more into Ukraine.

They lost a city or two just yesterday, targeting civilians as much as possible on their way out. They aren't even trying to win this war at this point, only inflict maximum cruelty on the people of Ukraine.

So you don't know how many left Russia then? So them maybe the number that left wasn't enough to make a dent in him losing support. You said thousands of people left, so I was going by that.

We don't have to rely on Russian state-controlled media for those numbers, so they trend far more accurate.

And support is support, forced or not. It doesn't really matter if it's genuine, all that matters is that he has the backing to do what he needs to do, regardless if they like him or not.

Putin doesn't need or care about the backing of the Russian people. He's personally killed Russian people in the past, and he'll kill more in the future. He does care about the image he projects to the rest of the world, and that's how you know not to trust anything that comes from Russian media, as he controls all of it. Not many people still buying the smoke and mirrors act these days though, his "tough guy" illusion has been dispelled.

 

[UnderJinx]

Russian troops regrouping in Ukraine
Must be humiliating for Putin. Hope that in the region where the troops is heading for
will strike back and be okay

 

[UnderJinx]

Like the fact that if it was Ukraine attack helicopters that stroke the russian oil refinery
then it would tell the fact that Ukraines Airforce is still operationel

 

[subcon959]

Literally their only resource is oil.

Not exactly true, they have plenty of minerals. I'm pretty sure they have one of the largest iron ore deposits on the planet.

 

[Xzi]

Not exactly true, they have plenty of minerals. I'm pretty sure they have one of the largest iron ore deposits on the planet.

Oh good, so they can at least keep building more prison-like housing for their citizens.

 

[UnderJinx]

Oh good, so they can at least keep building more prison-like housing for their citizens.

OMG that was a good one
For more war protesters
Im almost regretting i wrote that