1. jahrs

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    Huh man yahtzees videos must be killer with rtx on sadly I'm to broke to afford it.....
     
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    For those of us hoping for a Christmas miracle......


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  5. The Real Jdbye

    The Real Jdbye Always Remember 30/07/08
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    It was posted here months ago if not a year.

    Even with overclocking PC components usually outlive their useful life until they are so outdated they aren't useful anymore. Assuming adequate cooling. Heat is the thing that kills CPUs and GPUs more so than overclocking, and GPUs have heavy restrictions on how much you can overclock so you can't go past safe limits *for your particular card* unless you use a modded BIOS.
    PSUs and HDDs I wouldn't get used though. For the most part, used HDDs seem to be in fine working order, but you don't know how long they'll last, and for me I'd rather pay more to not have to replace my HDD as often.
     
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    Warning: Do not use in association with Windows 10
     
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    So you are saying a used GPU that was overclocked and running at 100% for days on end for coinmining is gonna last a long time? Anyone into overclocking overclocks with programs that bypass restrictions and depending on the card you might not have any to begin with (many AMD Sapphire cards for example can go up to triple the clock speed). My point is that you CAN'T know for certain how much the part has been used and for what use, so used parts are not something you should go for if you are looking for longevity and performance. Also, should anything go wrong, you don't even get any sort of warranty, making them even worse honestly.

    As for PSUs and HDDs, HDDs if from a reliable brand and have impact protection built-in are fine (but then again HDDs are dirt cheap brand new nowadays so no point in used ones). But PSU is the only part you must NEVER get used, so I'm with you on that, when PSUs go, they don't go alone, it's almost guaranteed that the moment the PSU dies it will take at least one other part with it or at the very least damage them so they start underperforming afterwards.
     
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  10. The Real Jdbye

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    I can't say for sure when it comes to mining, but that's what other people claim.
    And mining rigs also tend to have pretty good cooling/air flow to maximize performance, which also helps temperatures.
    All I know for sure is I haven't heard of any considerable amount of GTX 9xx cards failing, despite how popular they were for mining, and those cards are 5 years old now. GTX 10xx cards are also pretty cheap used and they were never popular for mining to begin with.
     
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    Temperature isn't the only thing that ruins parts, resistors and capacitors have a durability scale to how much electricity can go through them during their lifespan, so even with good temps overclocked systems last less.
     
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    Quality capacitors have a guaranteed lifetime, they should last a long time, but at least they are the easiest thing ever to replace if they fail :)
    I'm sure it happens, but it's rare with quality capacitors. Usually only happens to ancient electronics that are 20+ years old.
    Heat is also a big contributing factor to capacitors failing.
    Not heard of resistors having a finite lifespan, you may be right though.
     
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    I made this in hopes more than 2 people will get it.

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    This was me trying to install Qubes OS with little to no prior experience with linux over the weekend. This was on a mini PC to make it even more insane, I had no idea what I was thinking.
     
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    Capacitors come in four quality levels, cheap, normal, extended and high (also called military-standard quality). Cheap is used in random knock-off devices and usually have expected lifespans of around a year (capacitor lifespan means that they last that long of total use, continuous or not, until they start swelling up, similar to how light bulbs claim to can last ~500 hours for example), normal lasts ~2.5 years and is the most common (used often in low-end GPUs since you aren't gonna be running a low-end PC 24/7 so doesn't matter), extended last ~5 years (used in pretty much all GPUs above 100$/€ since those see heavy use and finally high quality lasts roughly 10 years (only ever put in motherboards though since most people change GPUs while keeping the same motherboard so on GPU it would drive the price up for no good reason). Those are theoretical values though, could get lucky and get a capacitor that lasts much longer than it should or one that dies right away. But yup, heat is the single most important factor. My issue is that I run my PC ALMOST 24/7 and picked parts specifically with high-quality caps on purpose for longevity, so I never trust used parts since they won't last long when I use them.

    I cringed, BADLY:rofl2:
     
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  20. The Real Jdbye

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    Think mine are the 5 year ones and my desktop is still going 10 years later. I used to keep it on 24/7 as well. So they can easily outlive their rating.
     
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