Hacking The Empire Strikes Back!

[shredman]

The inevitable has happened...

Nintendo has shut down homebrew due to fools like Waninkoko
advocating piracy with his ridiculous apps that do nothing but
piss off Nintendo to the point that they have had to take such a
heavy handed response to the 'homebrew scene'

Ninty wasn't so much concerned about the unauthorised use of their
console system for homebrew applications as it is in fiercely
protecting its revenue stream.

Well done to the morons that effectively helped to make all non-HBC
installed wii systems homebrew-less....

I'm sure that there will be ways around all of this and I hope that Waninkoko
and Wiigator and the rest of those pirates disappear - I hope that marcan, bushing
and co. don't share any info on how they (hopefully) fix the latest response from
the big N.

SHREDMAN

 

[ALTERNATIVE]

It seems to me like you don't know what it is you are talking about. Since you have no idea what Nintendo is thinking, these are claims you cannot make. There is nothing to indicate how long they have been working on fixing the security problems in their software.

But feel free to keep blaming random people on the internet if it'll make you feel better.

 

[MrBubbles]

Not true. Someone from the homebrew community told Nintendo via email that there was a huge security leak that would allow backups to be played. He wanted to speak with an engineer. They never responded so he put it up for the public.

 

[shredman]

Random people?!?!

Singlehandedly Waninkoko has turned the Wii homebrew scene into a farce

He has effectively turned legitamate homebrew into tools for widescale piracy
Mod-chipping contributes directly to piracy
Non-Mod Chip related hacks to enable piracy is exactly the same

Waninkoko 'gave' us WAD installing for Virtual console - even when he was warned
about the consequences of his software by other more responsible coders

Waninkoko 'gave' us ISO loaders to play backups?!?!
What a load of rubbish!! A pure backup is a 1:1 copy allowable by law (in some countries)
- the games then need to be patched!?! to play your legit backup

Waninkoko is a fool that enables piracy for the hell of it - maybe just for some fame
Wiigator/Wanky and every other fool that thinks piracy is ok is a moron...

To top it off - he 'borrows' code from others without giving credit where its due and is
lauded by morons that think because they get free games he is a saint and in no way
responsible for the mess that he does create.

Get off your knees from the front of the throne of waninkoko and you may just see
the embarrassing scene that you yourself seem to be a part of..

SHREDMAN

 

[Zeek03]

The inevitable has happened...

Nintendo has shut down homebrew due to fools like Waninkoko
advocating piracy with his ridiculous apps that do nothing but
piss off Nintendo to the point that they have had to take such a
heavy handed response to the 'homebrew scene'

Ninty wasn't so much concerned about the unauthorised use of their
console system for homebrew applications as it is in fiercely
protecting its revenue stream.

Well done to the morons that effectively helped to make all non-HBC
installed wii systems homebrew-less....

I'm sure that there will be ways around all of this and I hope that Waninkoko
and Wiigator and the rest of those pirates disappear - I hope that marcan, bushing
and co. don't share any info on how they (hopefully) fix the latest response from
the big N.

SHREDMAN

I hate when Newbies make remarks like this. Waninkoko is not a moron. Either Way, They wanted homebrew blocked.
Do you think they would just let homebrew grow forever? Even if it didn't have any types of "piracy", Nintendo would still block it. It is NOT Waninkoko's fault this has happened. WAIT FOR A SOLUTION AND STOP BLAMING PEOPLE!

They would block it either way.

When There wasn't a backup loader and just homebrew, Nintendo still tried to block it. Keep junk comments to yourself. It already happened. Opening this thread isn't changing ANYTHING. You are ticked off at Waninkoko for doing NOTHING. Backup Loader is to BACKUP games you already have. Releasing that is not illegal. Its the people doing the bad stuff. Wad installing is great for Custom Channels. Not Piracy.

Don't blame people for this. It would be blocked anyway.

 

[Zeek03]

Random people?!?!

Singlehandedly Waninkoko has turned the Wii homebrew scene into a farce

He has effectively turned legitamate homebrew into tools for widescale piracy
Mod-chipping contributes directly to piracy
Non-Mod Chip related hacks to enable piracy is exactly the same

Waninkoko 'gave' us WAD installing for Virtual console - even when he was warned
about the consequences of his software by other more responsible coders

Waninkoko 'gave' us ISO loaders to play backups?!?!
What a load of rubbish!! A pure backup is a 1:1 copy allowable by law (in some countries)
- the games then need to be patched!?! to play your legit backup

Waninkoko is a fool that enables piracy for the hell of it - maybe just for some fame
Wiigator/Wanky and every other fool that thinks piracy is ok is a moron...

To top it off - he 'borrows' code from others without giving credit where its due and is
lauded by morons that think because they get free games he is a saint and in no way
responsible for the mess that he does create.

Get off your knees from the front of the throne of waninkoko and you may just see
the embarrassing scene that you yourself seem to be a part of..

SHREDMAN

Shaddup!

People using things for Piracy is not Waninkoko's fault.

 

[Slowking]

The inevitable has happened...

Nintendo has shut down homebrew due to fools like Waninkoko
advocating piracy with his ridiculous apps that do nothing but
piss off Nintendo to the point that they have had to take such a
heavy handed response to the 'homebrew scene'

Ninty wasn't so much concerned about the unauthorised use of their
console system for homebrew applications as it is in fiercely
protecting its revenue stream.

Well done to the morons that effectively helped to make all non-HBC
installed wii systems homebrew-less....

I'm sure that there will be ways around all of this and I hope that Waninkoko
and Wiigator and the rest of those pirates disappear - I hope that marcan, bushing
and co. don't share any info on how they (hopefully) fix the latest response from
the big N.

SHREDMAN

Fail

Nintendo tried to block the twilight hack long before VC-piracy or game-piracy was there or could even be anticipated.
They just don't want unlicensed code to run on their system no matter if it's used for homebrew or for piracy.

 

[shredman]

I hate when Newbies make remarks like this. Waninkoko is not a moron. Either Way, They wanted homebrew blocked.
Do you think they would just let homebrew grow forever? Even if it didn't have any types of "piracy", Nintendo would still block it. It is NOT Waninkoko's fault this has happened. WAIT FOR A SOLUTION AND STOP BLAMING PEOPLE! mad.gif They would block it either way.

When There wasn't a backup loader and just homebrew, Nintendo still tried to block it. Keep junk comments to yourself. It already happened. Opening this thread isn't changing ANYTHING. You are ticked off at Waninkoko for doing NOTHING. Backup Loader is to BACKUP games you already have. Releasing that is not illegal. Its the people doing the bad stuff. Wad installing is great for Custom Channels. Not Piracy.

Don't blame people for this. It would be blocked anyway. mad.gif





ITs the people doing the bad stuff......

Stupid comments from people that don't seem to understand that gun control works the same way...
No semi-automatic weapons on the street - no mass killings (or at least its more difficult...)

Some control is needed in order to keep things under control

Countries with greater gun control have less shootings...
Not rocket science is it?...

I guess thats beyond some of you

SHREDMAN

 

[da_head]

pirating is good.

 

[Jm9760]

@shredman: You are a complete idiot. Nintendo already tried to block homebrew in a previous update by deleting twilight hack save files. This was long before the backup loader was out.

 

[UrkeytaY]

Hey Shredman...I just have one simple question for you....



...have YOU ever pirated anything, be it a movie, pc game, console game, etc?

 

[shredman]

The extent to which Nintendo went this time by patching all IOS stopping region changing and WAD installing
shows exactly this

IOS patching - stops so many things the list is too long - main effects stops ISO loader and trucha patching
Nintendo protecting its revenue stream

Region Changing - allows Nintendo to control releases in various formats - usually done by companies that
do not have the resources for wide scale worldwide releases...has the effect of being able to market a
product in 1 zone sell it make money then market in another zone and so on - nintendo protecting its
revenue stream

WAD installing - obviously protecting its Virtual Console and WiiWare revenue stream

Make no mistake - the extent of this 'minor' update to 3.3 is to protect Nintys revenue stream

My apologises to those that try in vain to argue otherwise..
true homebrew is not the cause of the new update by nintendo

nintendo were warned about their system security frailities and they took action

SHREDMAN

 

[Tichinde925]

Its not illegal to buy imports and play those imports on a different region console!

 

[CockroachMan]

I agree that Waninkoko is a moron, but also agree that this topic is pretty much useless.. if Nintendo shut down homebrew now, someone will find another solution, it's always like this.. no need to rant.

 

[shredman]

out of region gaming isnt illegal but the reason why the Wii is not region free
is because of release scheduling - ratings boards - cultural sensitivities and
the ability to market a product effectively in a global form

Ninty doesnt have the resources to do effective worldwide marketing
releasing distribution etc

SHREDMAN

 

[Zeek03]

Shredman, You are getting OWNED. On this topic. Give up. More than likely, you were not with the homebrew scene WAY from the beggining. Nintendo already tried to stop homebrew but failed. Of COURSE they will do it again.

Stop being a idiot! Answer a question. Have you ever pirated something? HAVE YOU? Yeah, you have. May not know it but heck yeah you have.

Are you getting mad at Bill Gates for making Computers? Same thing with backup Launcher or Wad Installer. Computers can be used to download things illegally, or be word proccesors like they should be. Backup Launchers can be used to play pirated games, or they could be used to load backups you already own. Same thing.

Stop insulting Waninkoko.

 

[Tichinde925]

"Empire Strikes Back" represents that Nintendo is the Evil one, and that they will fail in "Return of the Jedi"

 

[shredman]

I'm sorry I wasn't with the scene from WAY back
I'm sorry that I don't love h@xin the Wii (your profile Zeek03)
I'm sorry that I don't say OWNED anymore (who does?!...)
I'm sorry that you cant see beyond your own selfish desires
I'm sorry that I started this thread

My sincerest apologies to those that read any of this thread
It was a waste of my time and yours...

I'm sorry....
(consider my postings finished on all of this...)

SHREDMAN

edit - empire strikes back was just a joke - a catchy title...
it made you have a look inside didnt it

nice reply tho Tichinde925

 

[UrkeytaY]

ahhh, c'mon duder...answer the million dollar question!?

 

[TheWon]

Joke topic or not. If Nintendo really wanted to shut Homebrew down they could. Just send out a update that bricks people Wiis who have Homebrew installed. Ya people would say they could then sue Nintendo. Seriously you think a court would side with us. If nintendo states their update was sent out to prevent people from playing backup and other homebrew apps. That they say is illegal, and against their user agreement.

I can see people getting cross examined.
So sir can you tell me what was on your Wii?
Well I had some VC games, Channels, and the Homebrew channel.
Homebrew Channel what is that?
Well it's a hack you use so you can play emulators, install wads and maybe play backups.
Case Closed.
So for now let's just play the game. Untill they really get serious. No one is to blame.