The BIG Football Thread

[Monkee3000]

Still not answering the question.

 

[Flame]

Monkee would you want Celtic and Rangers to join the EPL?

 

[emigre]

That's because the questions is ridiculous.

 

[Monkee3000]

Monkee would you want Celtic and Rangers to join the EPL?

No.

 

[Monkee3000]

emigre Scottish football is rubbish! but compared to what countries league England, Spain? then the answer is a big yes.
When compared to the leagues it should be, like Denmark Sweeden and Belgium you will see its standard is about right.

 

[emigre]

Denmark, Sweden and Belgium are able to produce relatively decent football players. Genk were still able to qualify for the CL group stage, Copenhagen were able to qualify for the CL group stages. I'm not proclaiming Scottish football should at La Liga level, but at least at a level where they can actually compete and demonstrate vaguely decent football. Ultimately I'd say for the SPL to improve as a league, it would have to become more competitive and an equal distribution of revenue, it is undeniable the monopoly of Glasgow has harmed Scottish football.

 

[Monkee3000]

You say that like Scottish clubs haven't managed any of that recently. 2007-2008 Champions League
What revenue? TV or gate receipts, because TV money is paid like the EPL.

 

[emigre]

Four seasons years ago is a long time in football. From the SPL site, the prize money is more beneficial for Rangers and Celtic because they're always going to first and second. It gives them a greater financial advantage. And considering the structure of the two, they dwarf the other ten clubs it is effectively a two team league.

 

[Monkee3000]

Just as I said, it's paid like the EPL and "Prize Money" indicates the better you do the more you will be rewarded.
Scotland aren't the only country to have the problem of a duopoly. England have the problem of"The Big Four"
but not to worry I'm sure all the foreign billionaires will make everything better.
P.S Welsh teams should play in the Welsh league system and the same should apply to England(English league) and Scotland(Scottish league).

 

[emigre]

Ah the good old welsh teams should play in the welsh league argument. Shame the Swans were founded in 1912 and the WPL was founded in 1992. And during this period the Swans were founding members of the old Division Three, meaning our roots and history are in the English league system.

 

[Monkee3000]

And that stops you moving to the Welsh league?

 

[emigre]

Pretty much.

 

[Monkee3000]

Rubbish. they don't want to leave the money of the English league.

 

[emigre]

Well done for realizing that. Resigning from the English league to join the WPL would push Swansea et al into a tricky financial situation.

 

[Monkee3000]

So history has nothing to do with it just money.

 

[emigre]

History in the english system is what gives us the legitimacy in the English system. About the money? Going from the English system to the WPL would financially cripple them as these are not rich teams.

 

[Monkee3000]

Legitimacy is not the point. What's stopping a move to the welsh league? Answer: Money(not history).

 

[emigre]

And what's wrong with that? It's a lot to ask clubs to radically change their financial models after several generations through no fault of their own. If they're was a welsh league back the 1910s than you would have a point. Yet they're wasn't ,they helped form the English league system and have played by the rules of that. And by participation in the english system, they would develop a financial model suiting their league level.

 

[Monkee3000]

There was a Welsh league back in 1910.

 

[emigre]

The welsh football league which was a regional league and was not organised by the FAW.The League of Wales (or League of Wales as it was known) was formed in 1991 and the inaugural season in 1992. This was because the boys at the FAW were fearful about what FIFA would do to the national team. It took the FAW over a decade to actually organize a league. This meant the Welsh teams had to go to England for a professional match.